Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield 2

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield 20180707

Now, mike pompeo went first, speaking to reporters there in pyongyang right before boarding his aircraft and he struck a very optimistic tone, saying that both sides agreed on the denuclearization of north korea and were committed to that. But whats denuclearization . Does anybody know . Thats the key question here, and i think from the u. S. Side, they thought they understood what it meant. They thought it meant inspection of north Korean Nuclear facilities, concrete steps being taken on the front end. North korea very clear that they want this to be kind of a tit for tat. They want to take steps and see matched by the u. S. , different areas, things theyve long sought. They said in their statement that they were very much against this idea of complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization, something that most watchers of north korea thought would be a challenge, but something that the u. S. Had kind of implied it was not stepping back from in these talks. Now, speaking of tit for tat, if you take a 30,000foot view, over the last week, weve had the United States and china essentially engaging in what could be the very first salvos of a true trade war and then suddenly, north korea pulls back on its language relating to denuclearization. Do we see a linkage here . Is it reasonable to question whether china may be putting itself thumb on the scale or whatever . Well, china has a vested interest in the situation, and youve seen the u. S. Trump administration attempt to delink these things. Theyve sought cooperation with china on the north Korean Nuclear issue, believing that it was in beijings interest to denuclearize north korea as well. Youve seen trump publicly praise his chinese counterpart, president xi, on north korea, the enforcement of sanctions. Theyve tried to keep these trade issues separate. Its unclear whether beijing views these things as separately and whether or not theyre using their long standing links with pyongyang, with north korea, to kind of play a multilevel game of chess here. Absolutely. Definitely multilevel game of chess. Thanks so much for that, ryan browne. So, what does this mean for President Trumps relationship with kim jongun . Well, cnns White House Correspondent Boris Sanchez joins us now live from berkeley heights, new jersey, near the president s bedminster golf resort where he is spending the weekend. What can you tell us, boris . Reporter hey there, joe. The white house declined to comment on the news coming from north korea, that statement put out by the North Koreans. The president has not weighed in on twitter, though he was active this morning, tweeting out some attacks against the press. Look, joe, ultimately, this could be seen as just the latest chapter in what has been a very volatile process. It wasnt that long ago that President Trump was referring to kim jongun as little rocket man. We went from there to having the president call the chairman smart and gracious, and as the president was receptive to calls that he win a Nobel Peace Prize for setting up this meeting in singapore, a short while after that, he cancelled the meeting altogether, saying that it would be inappropriate for the two leaders to gather. Ultimately, he ended up meeting with kim jongun in singapore. You also had the discrepancy between the president and his own secretary of state, President Trump just a few days ago on the north lawn saying that north korea was no longer a nuclear threat. His secretary of state, mike pompeo, sort of dismissing that idea, acknowledging that the two sides are still very far apart. It appears that President Trump wants to be on good terms with kim jongun. He wants to have a Good Relationship with him. The question is how far will that go in guaranteeing that the United States does not enter an Armed Conflict with north korea, joe . Boris, trump is also set to meet with putin in a little over a week. How do you think this is going to affect that summit . Reporter well, those two leaders already have a plethora of items on the agenda. The war in syria, russias annexation of crimea, russia election meddling. This would add another part of the conversation with President Trump potentially asking Vladimir Putin for russia to reinstall certain crippling economic sanctions that the administration has argued brought north korea to the table. Again, it is a possibility, but not something that we know may happen just yet, joe. Thanks so much for that, Boris Sanchez. Now, lets talk about these developments with north korea and more. Joining me is congresswoman sus susan delbene, democratic representative from washington state. Lets get your reaction to the news of the day, the developments out of north korea, the North Koreans calling the u. S. Attitude regrettable, gangsterlike. Does this signal worries to you that a denuclearization deal is in doubt . Well, i think this shouldnt be a surprise. This is consistent with north koreas behavior in the past. I support diplomatic efforts. I think thats so important. It really should be an International Effort so we are bringing other parties in to play, to continue to put pressure on north korea. I am concerned the administration was willing the president was willing to make concessions on military exercises with nothing in return from north korea, so we need to continue to push forward and take a strong stand. North korea talks are coming at a time when the Trump Administration is also essentially launching what appears to be a trade war with china. Do you have any concerns about the tariffs impacting jobs, businesses, the Agricultural Industry in the United States . I have great concerns. I am hear in washington state. We are the most trade. Dependent state in the country. This was critically important for us to make sure that we have sound trade policy. If you look at our agriculture producers, theyve been hit very hard. Cherries, pears, apples, they had a 10 tariff from china to begin with, and then with in april, 15 was added because of the tariffs a retaliation to steel and aluminum and now as of friday, weve seen 25 added to that, so thats a 50 tariff on important agriculture products in our Community Like cherries and apples. And we have no sense of where this is Going Forward. We dont have a sense of what the administration is trying to achieve here. We have issues we need to address in trade. This should be a multilateral, we should be working with International Community in a multilateral approach to address these trade issues. Now, jumping around a little bit, but i have to mention that you traveled to texas recently to tour a detention facility housing migrant children, separated from their parents. Give me an idea of your reaction to what you saw and also, by the way, the Trump Administration has been claiming that members of Congress Going to these facilities is slowing the ability to reunite the children with their families. How do you respond to that . Well, first, i was in texas in mcallen to see what was happening directly at the border in terms of immigrants being processed as they came through the border as well as going to a detention facility down there. I think the only reason were seeing the response to the terrible behavior that the administration took in terms of separating families is because members of congress have really shined a light on this issue. So, its very unfortunate that the administration is trying to make it harder for members of congress to go and to see whats happening. We are the oversight body. We are holding the administration accountable, and we need to see whats happening, but i talked to parents who had had their children removed, who were in detention facilities, who didnt know where their children are, they were told if they just asked that they would be connected to their children. They asked and asked and asked and were not provided any information on where their children were. I have continued to Ask Department of Homeland Security for how they keep those records, do they connect a child to an adult when they come across the border so we know who came together. Its not clear that theres been good recordkeeping, that they know how to connect parents and children back together, and thats why its so critically important that we continue to understand all the efforts being taken by Homeland Security and health and Human Services who have are right now caring for those children, to understand what theyre doing to reunite these families. We have to make sure every Single Family is reunited. Now, is it intentional, do you think, these delays, or is it more just an issue of bureaucrat bumbling . Well, i think theres clearly this zero tolerance policy has been immoral and cruel, and theres also just been incompetence in terms of making sure that we have the records and the information thats needed to make sure were tracking families and we can reunite them. That lack of information means were not getting straight answers from the department of Homeland Security. Its why we cant always get a straight answer in terms of number of children who have been separated where they are, how theyre going to be reunited. We should have been able it wouldnt have been hard to make sure that we kept track of children and their parents and had information of where they were being sent so we could put those reunite those families right away. Boy, it sure seems hard right now. Thanks so much, congresswoman susan delbene. Its heartbreaking. Still ahead, the race against time in thailand, the rain has started. Rescuers are desperate to get 12 boys and their coach out of a cave before floods threaten them any further. And new demands President Trumps legal team says there will be no meeting with special Counsel Robert Mueller unless theres proof of trump committing a crime. A hotel can make or break a trip. And at expedia, we dont think you should be rushed into booking one. Thats why we created expedias addon advantage. 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Where are the rescue operations right now . Reporter i think theyre pretty much ready to go, joe. The situation on the ground right now is that the governor has said that the conditions are appropriate for this incredibly daring and risky cave rescue of these 12 boys and their coach, stuck in this cavern system. In order to do this, they will have to dive some of these boys out and its very, very risky. There could be some lastminute hitches and delays. The boys have to get medical checks before theyll be allowed to even attempt this. But as far as we can ascertain from officials here on the ground, theyre pretty much in a position to give a green light on this very risky operation. So, whats the weather like, and how long is it expected to rain . Reporter well, about an hour or two ago, we had an absolutely torrential downpour and it was a stark reminder of just whats in store for us here. I think in the days ahead, its going to be theres going to be some very, very heavy monsoon rain but they reckon theyve got about a twoday window max to get the children out. Right now, the rains holding off, which means that the cavern system isnt filling up with water. The water level inside has dropped significantly in the past few days, which has meant that many of the passageways which were completely flooded are now passable, but there are still some submerged areas, so it will involve some diving for these boys which is the very risky bit. All right, thanks so much for that jonathan, and well get back to you soon. This rescue will be far from easy. Joining me now, Ocean Explorer and ceo of tiberon subc, tim taylor. Tim, what are some of the unique challenges rescuers could be facing in this situation . Well, i tell you, rescuers are extremely professional. If youre a cave diver, youre extremely experienced but generally you dont enter a cave with someone thats inexperienced so tendering and carrying somebody coming out, especially kids of this age and with this kind of stress on this project puts a lot of stress square on those divers so in addition to the abilities and skills to navigate these caves, they are now responsible for a childs life and the world is watching. So you add that level of stress and i think it kind of brings this to a monumental level of rescue. Its something theyll have to live with either way, successful or not successful, and thats a lot to ask one person to do. So, one of the questions that comes to mind is about panic, particularly under water, when you have young kids who presumably have no experience with scuba diving equipment, simply trying to figure out how to keep that mask on, how to breathe, how to see even in limited light. Panic could be a pig challenbig. Thats the skills they taught these kids are going to be the basic skills of how to clear that mask and how to deal with that. What they cant instill in these kids is experience, and so you never know how what can happen. Straps can break. Masks can flood. Gas can, you know, free flow. Theres all sorts of things that experience teaches you how to deal with and unfortunately experience takes time and they dont have that. So, yes, panic is the nemesis here. Generally go ahead. Theyre going to have enough gas they should have gas staged throughout the divers should have plenty of gas. They dont sound like these are really strong sections that they have to traverse without coming out and going through another section so its not like they wont have enough gas. Its just the equipment failures and equipment maladjustments and dealing with this in zero vis in single file by themselves is a whole lot of things that it just takes experience to understand and thats where the risk factors skyrocket. Including, i would think, depending on the type of equipment theyre using, just getting snagged on rock, certainly under water, could be a huge issue because even for experienced divers, that can be a problem in broad daylight. Yes. Yes. Knowing your equipment, being able to get yourself extricated from sites. I do this at depth of 250 feet or more inside of wrecks, so theres a lot more jaggedy things sometimes in wrecks and life and animals that pop up around you so you can get stuff caught but you have to know to stop, think, breathe, and know your equipment and figure your way out. Now they have the divers to help them with that, but some of these times in these restrictions, the divers cant be next to each other to help. Theyve got to be ahead of them or behind them, so these children are going to have to have a Comfort Level with their equipment as best they can, and thats the risk. Again, i cant emphasize more the lack of experience cannot be instilled. You cannot take a disk out of the divers head and stick it in the kids head and they know what theyre doing. It will be its a tough thing. Tough situation. Yeah, the other thing i talked a psychologist about this, and one of the things you think about the most and perhaps one of the most chilling things you think about is which kid do you take first and which one do you take last . Whats your view . Do you go with the most courageous one . Do you go with the one who might need the most time . Whats your view about how they get started . Im not a psychologist, but you know, i would think you would take the strongest and most person thats adapted most to the skills of diving. Theyre not going to get any better in a day and those better performing children will, if they get through and they make it through this, god willing, they will learn from the process and be able to help the ones that are less able. If they learn something along the way, we got snagged here, didnt get snagged here, we can use this or that, you know, refine the techniques, youve got 12 people to bring out of here and each time youre going to learn something on that journey. Well, were all keeping our fingers crossed that this will be a great adventure that these kids remember a long time. And that they get out of there okay. Thanks so much for that, tim taylor. Officials are also watching as powerful storms move into the region. Flash flooding could add another snag in an already dangerous rescue mission. Lets bring in cnn meteorologist allis allison. What do these storms look like . Weve already seen the first wave come in and more rain is on the way. As jonathan mentioned too, the last few days weve been lucky d in the sense that its been relatively dry. Technically from july 2nd through the 7th, they had no real measurable rain. That allowed the water in the cave system to recede very, very much and thats fantastic news for them. Some of those channels actually being really low in terms of the flooding. But with more rain on the way, thats going to be the big concern is getting th

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