I think hes quarantined, yeah, hes going to be fine, but hes quarantine. The Vice President and his wife have both tested negative, but as the leader of the task force, you would expect pence to follow cdc guidelines and selfquarantine as a precaution. Yet, with nine days before the election, hes doing the opposite. Today pence will be holding a rally in north carolina, a state already seen a new spike in its own cases. Again President Trump downplaying the surge. Do you know why we have cases so much . Because thats all we do is test. If we cut or testing down in half, they would say well, they wouldnt say that, but cases would go down. We are coming around, rounding the turn, we have the vaccines, everything. Even without the vaccines rounding the turn. Seeing level not yet seen. Now a stunning admission mark meadows said, quote, we are not going to control the pandemic. Heres much more from that interview from this mornings state of the union with jake tapper. Mark, thanks so much. Horrible news about the vps office. Yeah, we wish them the best. Obviously in not just white house staff, we certainly wish them the very best. The treatments, and make sure we can tackling this in a meaningful way. How many individuals in the Vice President s office or the white house have tested positive this week . And how many of them have symptoms . You know, we dont give out that kind of information. Obviously marc short and a couple key staff around the Vice President have come down with the coronavirus. It just goes to show you that we continue to face this enemy that came from china. Yet, what we also know is the one area where we are rounding the corner is really the death rate, as it looks to that, our ability to handle this has improved each and every day, each and every month. You know, when there were estimates that as many as 10 of the population that got there would actually experience a f fatal results, now were down to 2. 6. Every death is too many, but. Marty obst tested positive days ago and not disclosed to the public at the time. According to numbs in a moment, two people briefed on the matter he said that mark meadows he why would you not let obviously thats not a report. Thats actually a tweet. When we look at this no, that was in the New York Times story. When we actually have Peoples Health at risk, what we look at there, jake, is sharing personal information. Now something we should do, not something we do actually do, unless its the Vice President or the president or someone thats very close to them where theres people in harms way. Listen, anytime theres someone in harms way, we have an obligation to let people know to contact trace. We have done that. We did that. Chris christie says you didnt do that with him. Well, in that vein, when you look at Chris Christie its within 48 hours of symptoms. When we looked at the president , there was not a contacts within 48 hours of the president where he would qualify under cdc guidelines. We actually have a cdc person in so hold on, jake. We have a cdc person embedded here in the white house that helps us with Contact Tracing. I understand that. Each and every day. Marc short has been in close contact with Vice President pence. Thats correct. They are always with each other. Short is now positive for the virus. Thats correct. So cdc guidelines say that Vice President pence should quarantine for 14 days. I understand the white house is trying to get around that by saying the Vice President is an essential worker, but how is going all over the country, campaigning, how is that essential work . Hes not helping to contain the virus. In fact, hes holding rallies that could be spreading the virus. Hes not just campaigning, hes working. We sea a middle east Peace Agreement with sudan that the Vice President engaged in. To suggest that the president has been campaigning and not getting things done he was at Campaign Rally in tallahassee. Im not saying hes not campaigning. Im saying that that is only part of what hes doing. As we look at thats as essential personnel, whether its the Vice President or anyone else but hes not following cdc guidelines. Jake, cdc guidelines did say essential personnel if if they wear a mask. I spoke to the Vice President last night at midnight. I can tell you what hes doing is wearing a mask, socially distancing, and when he goes up to speak, he will take the mask off, put it back on, but the doctors have advised him to do that. So, jake, when we start to look at this, you know, heres where we really need to make sure. On your website yesterday, jake, your website is talking about now we think the spread is coming from small, social groups and family groups. First it was large groups, now its all its coming from all sorts of spaces, because the pandemic is out of control. Heres what we have to do. Were not going to control the pandemic. We are going to control the fact we get vaccines, therapeutics. Wee arent we going to get control of the pandemic. Because its a contagious virus, just like the flu. Why not make efforts to contain it. We are making efforts by containing it. By running all over the country not wearing a mask . Jake, we could get into the backandforth, but let me say this. We need to make sure we have the proper mitigation factor also, whether its therapies, vaccines or treatments, to make sure people dont die from this, but to suggest were going to actually quarantine all of america no one is saying that. Well, they are, joe biden, is saying that, hes saying lock everything down, were going to have a dark winter thats what Health Officials say. No, what that its going to get worse. No, jake, jake. In terms of new infections. Lets be honest here. The Health Officials did not say dark winter. Those were joe bidens words. I think he was quoting william hasletine. We need to fight it with treatments and vaccines, take proper social factors, and when we look at this, were going to defeat it, jake, because what we are, were americans. We do that. This president is leading while joe biden is sitting there suggesting were going to mandate masks. The president is holding rallies all over the country. Thats correct. In fact were leaving no masks required, no distancing. We have already been, according to Health OfficialsContact Tracing, there have already been cases of individuals in minnesota and in washington, d. C. , and in oklahoma that got the virus at these trump rallies that dr. Fauci himself called a superspreader event. That is not that is jake theres been Contact Tracing from reporters, some with your own group, where they actually have other than masks religiously. What im here to tell you is we need to find the vaccines and therapeutics to give americans the relief that this is not a death sentence mark yet at the same time to suggest that any of that is not accurate is not based on the facts. Heres the bottom line. We know according to Health Officials masks are the best thing people can do in terms of trying to prevent the virus from spreading, period. Right. And operation warp speed, until that all works out, the best thing to do are masks. Vice president pence is the head of the Coronavirus Task force, he has been exposed to somebody who tested positive. The cdc guidelines say he should quarantine. Youre trying to saying hes running all over the country, meeting voters campaigning, an essentially worker business i dont think it is, but why is he not wearing a mask . I havent seen any pictures of him on the tarmac or anywhere wearing a mask. Should the American People follow the cdc guidelines or not . The Vice President is not. Well, i can tell you he is wearing a mask. He will be wearing a mask today, as we have this. Obviously when you have an exposure, you have to take additional mitigation factors to do that, but the other part of that is this, jake. Even the experts are talked about, when we talk about masks, if masks is the answer and man adapt i masks is the answer, can we put students back in schools . Should americans following cdc guidelines . Will they be safe . And the answer was no. Should americans follow cdc guidelines . So certainly americans should following cdc guidelines. They should . Does that include the president. That includes the president and includes everyone, but there are special why dont your supporters wear masks at rallies . Why dont you require supporters to wear masks . We offer them out we live in a free society, jake. When you look at that, you know, under a joe bidens america, he would lock everything down. Thats not true. How do you know that . Have you asked him that question . Ask him that question. Because ive seen a million interviews with him. He doesnt do you are talking about hypotheticals. Ive interviewed biden more than trump, ill get that. Okay. We can get into that. In terms of interviews most journalists would agree that joe biden has largely been unavailable. Hes hoping to run out the clock. So the American People should abide by cdc guidelines, but you are not even asking your supporters to wear masks. We have. We pass them out. Have you been to a rally . Come out with us to a rally. Well show you. We give out masks. They dont wear them. Well, its a free society. Youre not wearing one right now. Theres literally nobody in this room, literally not one person in the studio. So youre saying you always wear a mask everywhere you go. The American People know thats not true. I wear a mask penalty when im in here, in my office and home. That is true 100 . I wear a mask when i walk in the hallway at cnn, okay . Under your article yesterday, youre suggesting i dont even know what article youre talking about. Its on the cnn website. They can all go look at it. Just yesterday President Trump said were rounding the corner, its going away. Mark, its not even going away in the white house. Beyond that, the u. S. Reported 83,000 new cases on friday. Right. And saturday. The two highest days of the entire pandemic so far for new cases. Its not just new cases the Positivity Rate is going up, hospitalizations are going up, deaths are starting to tick up. Let me ask the question. Okay. I have a question here. Ill let you get to the question. For nits american add home under the false impression that its almost over, people still need to take precautions . I agree its serious. We continue to test more and more, more than most other countries, so the cases we find will go up. If youre not testing, youre not finding. A lot of these other countries are not testing near at the rate we are testing. Let me add some clarity. It is true that the more you test, the more people you will see, but testing has gone up 16 in the last month. Coronavirus cases are up 55 . This is not just about new tests. This is about the Positivity Rate and the virus is spreading at a factual matter. If you look at the number of tests versus the number of cases, where youre talking about all these up ticks, there is a correlation. Ill be glad to go over. Some of it, sure. And so in doing that, i mean, whats the point . What is joe bidens plan for the pandemic . How is he going to do it . Hes going to wear two masks like he does every day . He gave a whole people about it, and you can read his plan. He doesnt have a plan. He hayes rhetoric. You and i both know for 47 years hes talked about things and not done things. Youve covered him. I know him, the American People should no his record. Im asking about whats going on right now. Not theoretically what he would do. He had a plan he outloon on friday. President trump was asked if he could take a mulligan, what would he do differently on the virus . He said not much. A Columbia University study says just out, up to 210 deaths could have been prevented, quote, with earlier policy intervention and more rho best at the leadership and coordination. He promolted untested treatments, he holds rallies that lead to more infection, is it what is most concerning say he wouldnt do it much differently, does that suggest he hasnt learned anything if he really thinking he wouldnt do anything differently . Listen, some of those different positions on masks actually came from dr. Fauci and dr. Birx and the people you like to tout. I did tell you, early on what was happening we were learning about the virus, and we continue to learn about the virus. Where we are today is much better than where we were nine months ago. When it comes to all the things weve been ability to do at record speed, whether ppe, closing down borders, created ventilators, or whether it was actually providing for therapeutics or vaccines in record times, this president has done that all. Thats what you want a leader to do. To suggest that because of a virus that came from a foreign country is the whole reason for this pandemic and to ignore that, jake, is ignoring the very people we need to hold accountable. Im not ignore t. And we should agree. But were talking about the way t the president has handled it. Weve found something to agree on. I agree with you on that. Ahead, senator Kamala Harris slams Vice President pence for not quarantines, telling him to, quote, take our lead. Plus another record day of coronavirus cases in the u. S. Since the start of the pandemic. Nearly 84,000 new infections now reported for the second day in a row. Could this lead to a crackdown on masks and social distancing . 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Despite the outbreak, pence is not quarantines, like his challenger Kamala Harris did when one of rue top aides recently tested positive. Pence plans to Campaign Every Day leading up to november 3rd. He should be following the guidelines. Were doing it. We have modelled the right and good behavior, and they should take our lead. Well me to discuss all of this. Kaitlan collins. Jessica dean is in delaware with joe biden, and also joining us is dr. Regina brings et from baylor college. Kaitlan, in New Hampshire, the president is once again holding a Campaign Rally in the midst of this raging pandemic. Few people seen Wearing Masks or social distancing. Did the president have anything to say about the outbreak among the Vice President s inner circle . Reporter no, hi only comment came last night as he was returning to the white house, that was right away when the Vice President s office had confirmed some had tested positive. We saw they responded to the brought week in the west wing and now we have seen several weeks later in the Vice President s office. These are people who work incredibly close with the Vice President. Marc short, his chief of staff, obviously spends tyke with him. So is marty orbst, and now were learning that other staffers maybe positive, includes think body guard, yet, despite that hes not following cdc guidelines. The white house has deemed him an essential worker, but hes going to a campaign event. Thats what you have to keep in mind. Kaitlan competing against the speakers there our later, you know, she quarantined after someone tested positive in her office. What else is the biden hairs campaign saying . He said its this is a familiar refrain from the biden hairs campaign. They have made President Trump and his administers response to the pandemic absolutely central t