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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield January 10, 2021

Im not a prosecutor. And i do know that the standard for a conviction in a criminal prosecution is quite high so im not sure whether that could be met. I dont know whether hes met a standard that could actually be prosecuted and gain a conviction. But the behavior was outrageous. And there should be accountability. President trumps incitement of the insurrection at the u. S. Capitol last week left five people dead including Capitol Police officer brian sicknick. This afternoon officer sicknick was honored by fellow officers through a procession through downtown d. C. Streets. Also today flags at the white house were finally lowered to half staff. W we have since learned the white house did that in honor of sicknick. Lets turn our attention to capitol hill. Do we have a timeline of this process . That is exactly what house leaders are trying to figure out at this moment and theyll continue deliberating over the next day or so. But certainly there is a lot of complexity around this moment given this extraordinary timing given what they are going to try to do this week. What we know is the House Rules Committee at some point in the beginning of the week will sit down and try to work through the parameters of the debate of an impeachment proceeding over in the house. And then the full house can move to a vote on impeachment on wednesday. From there that is when it is up to speaker of the house nancy pelosi when and likely when they pass this through whether they send it directly to the senate or do they hold and delay . And there is a feeling among Democratic Caucus right now, concern that if they send it over to the senate that the senate going toward an impeachment trial in the first days of the Biden Administration would not be a good thing. It would delay his nominations. It would delay his legislative priorities. Most importantly covid stimulus relief. And that would not be a good thing to have the first few days of the Biden Administration essentially encapsulated by this moment up here on capitol hill, this moment of impeachment. So there is an effort to potentially consider delaying sending over the articles of impeachment to the senate and from then they would have potentially the Biden Administration go forth for the next few months without addressing impeachment over in the senate. All of this over the timing of impeachment up here on capitol hill. There also is a very real discussion going on about what role, what responsibility do individual members have for the incitement of the violence this week up here on capitol hill, those that stood up and objected to the electoral votes from being counted. Here is the senator joe manchin of West Virginia earlier today. Whether they should resign or not i dont know how they can live with themselves knowing that people have died because of their words and actions. They were saying im operating within the confines of what my duties are as a senator. I dont the people i have the most admiration for were those senators that said im going to object and they signed and put their name to it. And senator manchin there talking about senators cruz and hawley among others that stood up and objected to the counting of the votes. But that sentiment also shared by some republicans, senator pat toomey this morning said he believes these individual republican senators, that they will pay a price for this, fred. He said they all have some soul searching to do. All right. Thanks so much. With me now, former senator doug jones of alabama. Senator, good to see you. What do you think about the house introducing this article of impeachment tomorrow and acting fast on impeaching the president for inciting mob violence . Well, thanks for having me, fred. I think the house needs to move in the way they feel most appropriate. What we saw last week was horrific. It was egregious. And, clearly, amounts to an abuse of power. The question i think is going to remain, when would they send that over. When would a senate trial begin . Those are a lot different issues than just introducing this. If republicans want the president to leave office, theyve got a mechanism i think that they could do it. That is that a group of senators and congressmen, a lot of them, can go to President Trump just like they did to president nixon and say you are about to get impeached for the second time. This time bipartisan. It is time for the country to move on. Time for you to move on. That would be the best thing. Theyre not doing that. For senator mcconnell, he could bring back the senate earlier. They are expected to be back january 19th but he has the power if he wanted an expedited process, a response, some culpability for the president , to bring them back early as well. Reporter he could. Quite frankly, i would be surprised if there was an impeachment vote, Speaker Pelosi would send the articles of impeachment over while Mitch Mcconnell is still the leader of the senate. We saw what happened the last time. I think there would be some delay and there would need to be delay should these articles be voted on in the house. There needs to be some delay. There needs to be an opportunity for the Biden Administration to come in and get their cabinet appointees confirmed, get people in there, get their agenda moving forward. You can still do a lot of things once the senate gets these if they come. And im not convinced they will come. But if they do a lot of things the senate could do to delay a trial on the merits and do some work and let the people understand fully what happened and not rush this through a process that would only give some credence to the victimization of donald trump. Which i think would be unconscionable. Is there more at stake as well if congress were to delay, were to do nothing . I mean, we know the house of representatives will likely do something but if the senate were to do nothing, is there damage, too . Fred, there is a hell of a lot at stake right now for this country and for our future. For the next administration and the one after that in this congress and the one after that and the one after that. There is an awful lot at stake. We cannot let this pass. Weve got to make sure the folks are held accountable. That is not just the people that were coming in and shouting and destroying the Capitol Building but the people that incited this, the people doing this, i think there has to be some accountability. This needs to be a deliberate process. They dont need to rush this because then people will go to their partisan corners and that is the last thing we need right now. Today republican senator pat toomey suggested President Trump could face criminal liability after he leaves office for his role in the riot and on top of that weve since learned the president made other calls to georgias election investigator in early december urging him to find fraud in the election. We all heard the recording from last week where trump put pressure on the georgia secretary of state to overturn the election, to find more than 11,000 votes. As a former u. S. Attorney do you think the Georgia Attorney general will pursue charges against the president once he leaves office . I dont know if he will pursue charges. That is a big difference than could face charges. I think people need to look at the whole picture and carefully examine what happened over the last couple months, what happened last week. I think that the Justice Department is going to take a look at this. It is not just the folks that are storming the capitol. All those who spoke at the rally the other day that seemed to incite this, they have to be a little bit concerned right now. Youre talking about the rally where there was guiliani and the president . Absolutely. I think that every one of those speakers, they need to look carefully at what was said and what they were inciting at that point and whether they Face Criminal Charges i dont have an opinion on right now but i think everything is on the table to look at. That is the most important thing. I think the people of america deserve to know exactly what happened. That those that voiolated the lw should face some kind of consequences. And my guess worst Case Scenario is if none of that were to happen then a strong message is being sent that the president is above the law. I wonder if we can talk in general now about this change that is taking place whether it be on capitol hill or just across the country state to state. The south certainly is changing by way of elected office. You exemplified the change when you won your seat in 2017 as a democrat in alabama. Black women voters largely credited for helping you to win your seat in a very red place. Now in georgia a black man, a jewish man in both Democratic Senators warnock and jossoff. How do you see what warnock characterized to me when i spoke with him last that this is the new south . I think the term new south is a little over used to be honest. We heard that with new governors back in the 70s and it hasnt happened. I think we have a changing demographic and a changing south. What people on the bottom line are looking for is they want someone to represent them. I think what happened in georgia was a referendum on issues and values and what it means for those Kitchen Table issues we ran on in 2017. And i think people as we become a more diverse country, the south is becoming more diverse. That opens up possibilities for real dialogue and real change. I want the Democratic Party in alabama and across the south to be viable. I dont necessarily care about flipping one state red to blue, blue to red, whatever. We need to all be kind of purple states to where our Public Officials and candidates are competing for our votes on ideas and progress and coming together and healing this country. Not dividing it. Thats what weve seen far too much of. Especially in the south. Im hoping that the south with the election that we saw, the candidates we had great candidates running. Well have more coming up. I think we can be that place of healing. I really do. I think thats where you will see things headed in the future. How do you see yourself serving in the Biden Administration if youre interested in that or perhaps you can shed some light on what other political aspirations you might have if not with the administration . No. I think its a little too early to talk about any of that right now. I think this Congress Needs to get in and start doing their work. I think president biden, Vice President harris need to get in and they need to start doing exactly what they campaigned on. That is healing this country. Not only emotionally but also physically. Getting this pandemic under control. Making sure everybody has a vaccine and we can have some sense of normalcy. But by doing that we have a normalcy that brings people together and it brings the inequalities weve seen to a halt. That we bring people economically, physically, you name it. We need to bring people together and get rid of the disparities in our country. We have that opportunity and i think joe biden has the perfect opportunity to do just that. All right. Senator doug jones, good to see you. Thank you so much. Be safe. Thank you. Still ahead, lawmakers hiding in a safe room during the terror attack on the u. S. Capitol building may have been exposed to coronavirus. 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James, a Family Medicine physician and cofounder of the institute for antiracism in medicine. Doctor, good to see you. Happy to be here. This is a very real concern. I think it really crossed a lot of peoples minds when we saw the images of people being put into safe spaces in close quarters. How concerned are you now about the consequence of this . Oh, im very concerned. I mean, this is a situation that is a complete set up for infection. At the same time coming out of the holidays. Coming out of a period with a lot of interaction between people and so my fears certainly include this event but are much wider as well. You know, reportedly there were some members of congress who refused to put on the masks that were being happened bed out knowing that people were going to be in close confines. That seems to up the ante on possible exposure and limiting, confining the spaces this he were in. So, overall now, the u. S. Recorded a Record Number of coronavirus deaths on thursday. This against the backdrop of a nationwide vaccination effort that is woefully behind schedule. What concerns do you have now about this slow roll out or plans to vaccinate more people departing from i guess more structured roll out plans . You know, on one hand i think its great to see kind of lets pivot and adjust to the situation on the ground. We werent getting as many people vaccinated as hoped and it is great to see the Biden Administration come in with a different plan. However, my worry is that, you know, sort of the way things are going with the disorder and chaos we really see a situation in which the people who are really the most vulnerable can be really left out of the effort. The simple fact is the people who are making the decisions about how the vaccines are distributed, reflect the power structures of medicine. That means theyre disproportionately male, white, and the perspective of the most Vulnerable People who are disproportionately black and brown and poor are really not represented at the negotiating table. So moving ahead, that is a concern. What would be your suggestion to the Incoming Administration to how to better distribute . What is missing in the current Distribution Plan that is not getting to the most vulnerable and particularly the positions you just mentioned, brown and black communities. People that are unable to gain access to this supply . I think the important thing to think about is where do people of color get care. They are disproportionately connected to Community Health clinics, and i think it is important to really uplift the communities and the programs already in those spaces so that means making sure there are efforts on the ground, partnering with local institutions that maybe do pop up shops and those sorts of locations and not just the academic medical centers. You know, our bigger top down institutions but really to start on the ground and make the partnerships, make sure the vaccine gets to them. Dr. James, good to see you. Thank you so much. Be safe and well. Take care. All right. Next, the threat of violent extremism fueled by misinformation on the internet now social Media Companies are cracking down on racist content and suspending the president of the United States for instigating it. Should these companies go . Walk it off look one more mile look reply all look own your look. With fewer lines. Theres only one botox® cosmetic. Its the only one. Fda approved. 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