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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield January 16, 2021

Potential new protests. Lets first go to the nations capital. The pentagon authorizing the mobilization of an additional 5,000 National Guard troops, bringing the total to 25,000 ahead of president elect joe bidens inauguration. Pete muntean is there in the nations capitol, paint the picture for us about the barriers, the fences, the forces in place. Reporter security getting more and more strict all the time here, fredricka. This is about as close as you can get to the capitol on foot right now. We are blocks away. I want to show you, just the eight foot fence here around the capitol complex thats also going up around the National Mall beyond it, about 7,000 members of the National Guard here in washington right now, the head of the d. C. Guard, which is leading this operation, tells me 25,000 members of the guard will be here by inauguration day. They are armed with m4s but he insists this is not a war zone. This is not a war zone and anybody whos been in a war knows that this is not a war zone. What you have here is a Community Based organization. Its a part of the United States military, the guard, but we are citizen soldiers and airmen, and we represent the communities we serve in. Reporter the roadblocks here stretch for miles, more going up all of the time, and we have just learned that the bridges between virginia and d. C. Will be closed starting on tuesday through inauguration day. Also a big operation in the air to keep people from flying into washington, the tsa has stepped up screening at the regions three airports, bwi, dulles and reagan national, extra police and canine presence there and they are doing more screening at the gate, agents will look at the id and boarding passes of passengers as they board flights to washington, and the tsa says it is considering adding people involved in last weeks failed insurrection to the no fly list. This is a big operation fredricka and it only gets bigger all the time. It sure looks like it, pete muntean, thank you so much. Lets go to lansing, michigan, armed protests at the Capitol Building there months ago and the breakup of an alleged plot to kidnap the states governor. Sara, what are the security cautions, what are they bracing for there . Reporter look, we have been seeing the state police do rounds around the capitol. They have this fence up. Its really more of a visual deterrent because theres nobody going to be in there for the next basically monday through thursday of next week. There has been a credible threat that the police have gotten against the capitol and so they have basically decided the legislators here they will not be able to do the peoples work inside this building that they are going to be in a safer place, whether its home or somewhere else to make sure that they are just out of harms way. Considering what happened this fall, the arrests this that alleged kidnap plot against the governor wasnt just about kidnapping the governor, according to federal and state authorities, it was about storming the capitol, this capitol. Getting in there and doing damage in there. And taking over, if you will, and so when you hear those words back then a lot of people couldnt believe that that was something that could happen but you fast forward to january 6th and its almost a blueprint of what happened in d. C. And also going to be the National Guard. They have been called in. They have accepted their posts, and theyre expected to be in and around as this is supposed to kick off on sunday. So far there is no idea as to whether there will be people that show up. There will be a large gathering of people that show up. We know that some of the militias have been talking online. Weve been looking at what theyre saying through some of the experts who track them and there is discussion amongst them. Some saying that maybe they shouldnt show up and others saying theyre definitely going to be here. Well have to wait and see. Sara sidner there in lansing, michigan, the fence behind you were seeing that repeated over and over again at states capitols across the country. Lets go to austin, texas now, matt rivers is there, matt, what are they bracing for there . Reporter the Texas Department of Public Safety is really doing a lot of protection, kind of protective measures, things that are putting in place ahead of what might happen here at the texas state capitol. They have preemptively closed the Capitol Grounds behind me, all the way through to the inauguration at this point. Basically theyre doing that out of an abundance of caution is what theyre telling me, just in case things happen here at the capitol in terms of protests from different groups here in the state of texas. Now, in terms of what theyre tracking, theyre tracking three potential events this weekend, one on saturday, today, the other two tomorrow. So far weve seen one small group here outside the capital. They showed up, led by a man who is apparently going to run for governor. They were here for about 45 minutes and then they left. Things are very calm here at the capitol but that doesnt mean that dps, the department of Public Safety isnt prepared. Theyve shut the grounds here, see the padlock here and then if you can look into the grounds there you can see there is a large contingent of officers, there are dozens of officers that were able to see on the ground, some of which are wearing relatively minor riot gear, helmets, face shields, relatively minor but still theyre definitely prepared at this point for anything that might happen. I think its safe to say, fred, that in terms of whats happening today, relatively calm. If theres going to be larger protests i think well probably see more of that tomorrow but again just like sara was saying up in michigan, its very much wait and see at this point. Matt rivers for you it must be so odd. I mean, usually we see you reporting out of the Mexico City Bureau and all things, unrest too, south of the border and now here you are stateside in texas. Reporting on what that capitol is bracing for. All right, matt rivers, thank you so much. Sara sidner, appreciate it. According to the post just three days before the violent attack, and internal Capitol Police Intelligence Report cautioned that violent supporters of President Trump could zero in on congress itself. Joining me right now to discuss is Matthew Rosenberg of Cnn National Security analyst and an investigative correspondent for the new york times. Matthew, good to see you. What are your sources telling you about the obvious lack of preparation . Was it an issue of just not taking all of these threats, this intelligence seriously . I mean, that was absolutely part of it. You know, i think we had a situation where on the one side we know the secretary of the army did not want to deploy National Guard ahead of this, because he was fearful that it would be seen as the military attempting to kind of intimidate the president or intimidate congress on behalf of the president , uniformed soldiers were around the capitol. On the other hand, a lot of security agencies, Law Enforcement, you know, they looked at this crowd as this is the Blue Lives Matter crowd, this is the crowd that is not going to give us trouble the way other antifa or black lives matter protests are more aligned against the police, or policy, our people in some ways, that underlined some of this. And then on top of it there was a conceptual problem of understanding, you know, something that could happen that hadnt happened before. You know, the failure of imagination was a real thing here. Except its still so perplexing because white nationalists, White Supremacy groups have still been considered, i mean have been widely accepted and observed among the Intelligence Community that that was the great that has become the greatest threat to National Security. And being worried about it looking like intimidation by having, you know, Law Enforcement at the ready. It just still doesnt seem to square. You know, i think there is something there. These Law Enforcement agencies, others dont exist in a vacuum and that, you know, a large part of our political kind of onehalf of our political life views some of this talk as opposed to them. That on the right any real effort to investigate the far right, there are people there who oppose that. They have to kind of balance this and that was in play here too. Cnn has obtained a new security bulletin from the department of Homeland Security fbi and eight other agencies that says domestic extremists, particularly those who believe in the incoming administration, is illegitimate, are the most likely threat to the president ial inauguration ceremony. So how do they prepare themselves for that, that potential. Obviously were seeing the 25,000 National Guard troops but what other precautions are they willing to share . I mean, those 25,000 troops are an enormous deterrent to anyone whos coming down here, youve seen washington, while not a war zone, parts of it looked like a camp, the fbi is going around the country, rounding up, trying to arrest anyone who was involved in the events of january 6th. And i think the message has gotten clear on a lot of Message Boards and elsewhere where these groups congregate, theres a real disagreement, some are saying were not going to show up at all, do it at a later date, others are, you know, talking about state capitols, which are, of course, less well guarded, so theres a lot of room here to more than. But certainly the Law Enforcement and the National Guard is making their presence known and trying to say dont come here, you will get nothing done. So youve seen the images by now, right, President Trump apparently met with the my pillow ceo, mike lindell at the white house, we saw pictures of him going in and out of the white house and lindell was seen with notes and a photographer took an image of his notes and in it it said marshall law. What does that tell you about what may or may not have been discussed, particularly, you know, days after what took place on capitol hill . Well, look, i think at this point we know that there are people who are still getting through to the president like mike lindell who want to talk about the insurrection act or some kind of vague executive powers that are not spelled out by the president to put a freeze on this and remain in office. You know, i think there are more responsible National Security officials around him in the larger government bureaucracy who are kpaus exhausted by this, five days left, everybodys got their fingers crossed that no wild ideas, nobody tries to put them into action. Or maybe just the last attempt to get the last visit in the white house with, you know, in the waning days of this sitting president. Who knows . All right, Matthew Rosenberg, thank you so much, appreciate it. Thank you. All right, coming up, House Speaker nancy pelosi says lawmakers who helped with the capitol riot may face criminal charges, plus new concerns about capitol tours, why democrats were concerned about safety before the insurrection. And later this hour president elect joe biden is expected to formally announce new members of his science team. Talk about their important roles straight made. Taking align every day can help. Align contains a quality probiotic developed by gastroenterologists. It adds more good bacteria to your gut, to naturally help soothe your occasional bloating, gas, and abdominal discomfort 24 7. Support your Digestive Health with align, the 1 doctor recommended probiotic. Try align today, the pros in Digestive Health. Also try align dualbiotic gummies to help support Digestive Health. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is calling for a 9 11 Style Commission to investigate the capitol riot. She also says if any members of congress aided or abetted the mob that stormed the capitol criminal charges may be in order. We must trust each other. Respecting the people who sent us here. We must also have the truth, and when and that will be looked into. The if, in fact, it is found that members of congress were accomplices to this insurrection, if they aided and abetted the crime, there may have to be actions taken beyond the congress. And in terms of prosecution. For that. Congressman john gar mendy joining me now, a democratic representative from california. Congressman, good to see you. Good to be with you, fred. Its been over a week now but do you still feel pretty shaken up by all that was experienced . Oh, i think every member of congress is traumatized, even those that may have been involved in the whole situation, they too are thatraumatized bece theyre face ck some very, very serious charges in the future, not the least of which is being thrown out of congress and as the speaker said there could very well be charges brought against members of congress or their staff that were involved one way or another which was plain and simple, not simple, but a plain, very complex, very well thought out insurrection effort orchestrated by President Trump. So you sound pretty confident that there are members of congress that were complicit, that did indeed aid and abet. All i need to do is look at the video from the rally. The rally in which, at least two members of congress urged their the rally members to march on the capitol. And in one case to kick ass. In the other case, a little less but nonetheless they were urging their rally members at the rally, to march on the capitol. Those words that are out there, theres much more to be learned and theres also information from one of the organizers that three members, the leaders of the what is called the Freedom Caucus or the lack of Freedom Caucus, i should say, who were involved in the planning of all of this. Well see. Thats what the investigations are all about, a 9 11 type of investigation and you can be certain that there will be action here in the house of representatives against anyone that was involved in this insurrection. You didnt mention names but it sounds like youre making an inference to mo brooks or perhaps even hawley and how they may have helped encourage. Well, certainly mo brooks. His famous words about kicking ass, yes, we know that. Okay, so i wonder, too, when you talk about and even House Speaker pelosi talk about whether there are other members of congress who, you know, may have been complicit, and when we hear that tours were cancelled on capitol hill because of the pandemic, but then there are fellow lawmakers who said they know of lawmakers who were carrying out their own private tours. If you are to do that, dont you have or do you have to register your guests and if so might that be a way in which to make a connection as to whether any of those rioters also ahead of the mob were guests of lawmakers, getting reconnaissance, say . Well, this mob was foaming at the mouth crazy, determined to overcome congress, to take over the and to stop the voting procedures to certify the election. Thats what they wanted to do. They wanted to it was an insurrection. And there is evidence that members of congress brought into the capitol no, they do not need to register, members of congress do have that privilege. Well see. Theres a lot of cameras around. There are a lot of cameras at the riot. There were a lot of cameras in the capitol. And well do facial masking, matching. The result of that will be the truth. Yeah. And if, in fact, a member of congress was bringing somebody through to case the capitol, then there is very serious charges forthcoming. Could have been a staff person. Probably we dont know. But were going to find out. And thats the thing here that the general public should know is that the congress, this congress, with nancy pelosi as speaker of the house, will not stand by while there is a president ial inspired insurrection, plain and simple, an insurrection. Thats what trump did for more than a month and a half calling people to washington on january the 6th. In that group were clear terrorist, domestic terrorist organizations and well find out the truth and when the truth is known there will be serious repercussions, perhaps and probably on members of congress. Wow, right. Okay, so that Surveillance Video is going to be a very instrumental. Now, what about your own, you know, personal safety, if you are concerned, fearful of fellow lawmakers . I mean, we heard alexandria ocasiocortez talk earlier about how she felt like she was in a position she wasnt sure who was friend or foe even among lawmakers. What about you personally . Do you have a personal fear against some lawmakers, especially as a result of what happened . Of course. Absolutely. It is clear from just the video that lawmakers were part of the incitement of this riot with a clear intent to harm congresss work. And once they arrived here it was clear to harm members of congress, including the speaker and vice president. That is now known. Its all in the videos. And so yes, those members are still there. Some of them were on the floor when we were counting the when the republicans were objecting to the votes in arizona and pennsylvania. They were there on the floor. After the riot, right. After the riot, within hours after the riot they were there. And in the days that followed certain members of congress, some new ones, some associated with qanon were trying to bring guns into the capitol and may very well have do

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