Staterun media agency. Every time the u. S. Goes crazy talking about sanctions and war our will of vengeance will become hundred and thousand times stronger. Provoke us as you wish. With our nuclear strategic weapons we will eradicate the land of the u. S. With no trace left on earth. Let begin with will ripley, who joins us from tokyo. Let me begin with you, will. You have been to north korea 14 times. You returned from your latest visit this weekend. What is your take on this rhetoric and the recent escalation following what they say is a Hydrogen Bomb test . Well, that statement that you just read, poppy, also included yet another threat of the u. S. Territory of guam. South korean intelligence say they are observing activity in north korea that leads them to indicate that north korea will fire some kind of Ballistic Missile possibly before saturday, a Major National holiday, Foundation Day in north korea. South korea said it could be a submarine Ballistic Missile, interrange Ballistic Missile like the kind they launched over japan or icbm, intercontinental Ballistic Missile, the kind they tested twice in july. And south korea believes it could be fired toward the pacific ocean, including the u. S. Territory of guam. Very fastmoving developments on the north korean pen peninsula, hydraul Hydrogen Bomb. Then this strife between President Trump and south korea, criticizing the appeasement of the regime. And then japan and shinzo abe who has been on the phone constantly with the president. They obviously have a close relationship. President trump appreciates shinzo abes flattery, the fact that japan will never openly criticize the president and, in fact, we spoke on new day with the japan ambassador, who spoke about this escalating crisis. Japan itself has not talked about military options. We have talked about, you know, going through the international community, Security Council. We do appreciate the fact that the u. S. Administration, President Trump, has talked about every option being on the table. Alliance between japan and United States is very important and we really appreciate the fact that the United States is right behind us. Poppy, that Emergency United Nations Security Council meeting set to get under way within the hour. It is, indeed. We may here from nikki haley has she goes into the meeting. Well be watching for that and carry that live here. You have another statement from the president this morning. Let me just read it for you. He says United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with north korea. Now he may well, will, just have written china there, right . That is who this is clearly directed at, because china is responsible for 90 of the trade that korea does. Treasury secretary mnuchin said hes preparing these sanctions right now. Ive been speaking to analysts, poppy, who thinks this undermines United States credibility, because there are hundreds of billions of dollars in trade between the two countries every single year when you factor in goods and services. The relationship is enormous. And, first of all, its essentially impossible to just all out stop trading with china. This is such an intricate, economic relationship. They would be disastrous for china and the United States and u. S. Consumers. You have china responding, saying this kind of rhetoric is unacceptable, that threatening china on trade is not fair, that north korea is a totally separate issue. Yet President Trump has brought those two together. Could be very Difficult Conversations to come between the two countries. And, frankly, its important to note that china and the u. S. Have very different goals when it comes to the ultimate outcome of north korea and what they want from north korea, the u. S. Is not on the same page as china is in many respects on that. Will ripley in tokyo, thank you for the reporting. Lets go to the pentagon. Barbara starr is there. You have south korea talking about, carrying out these additional drills, saying their intelligence is showing them that north korea is preparing for another icbm test. What are you hearing in terms of preparations from the United States, given those words from defense secretary mattis yesterday . Well, you know, the defense secretary said two things, that the u. S. Would be prepared if there was an attack. He said the u. S. Would be prepared if there was a threat. What the threshold may be for some u. S. Military option probably remains deliberately, publicly unclear. They want kim to believe that they would respond with that overwhelming mass of force if he was to threaten or attack. You know, everything is in place that would ever be needed to carry out most of these options. The discussion, i think, right now is whether or not you want to send additional military assets to the region in some kind of socalled show of force. Does it make a difference if you send an Aircraft Carrier . U. S. Has done that before. The North Koreans are very well aware that manned u. S. Aircraft, not very likely to fly into north korean air space. Do you want to send more Missile Defense . Do you want to send more bombers to guam that could both protect guam and fly over the south Korean Peninsula . Were not hearing anything specific yet. It does seem to be the same general range of options are on the table plus the message from secretary mattis to kim jongun that if he threatens, if he attacks the u. S. Would have the capability for a massive response. Poppy . He made that very clear with those remarks yesterday. Barbara starr at the pentagon. Thank you very much. Joining now to discuss, james spider marks. And former National Security director for china and south korea under president obama, Foreign Policy adviser for Hillary Clintons campaign. General marks, let me join with you. The supposed hbomb test that was carried out thats what north korea says it was. According to the new york times, the power that have was so great it would surpass the power of the atomic bomb dropped on nagasaki and hiroshima. How do you think that changes the calculation . Listen to this. [ inaudible ] will you attack north korea . We will see. What changes now . Poppy, the fact that this was a Hydrogen Bomb, the scientific evaluation is that it was its a distinction without a difference. North korea is a Nuclear Power this is another step in the direction of a more fullsome capability that theyre going to have. I think the key thing in our mind that we need to keep first and foremost is military preparedness on the peninsula is at the highest level its been. It always has been a fight tonight type of environment. We have to change the die nam being a little bit. If were serious about the possibility of a military strike in north korea, first of all, it would be in response to a provocation by the north. United states and south korea would not unilaterally, provocatively go after the capabilities in the north. We have an ability to assess, monitor all the missile launches that have taken place before we have been able to get the attitude and the flight pattern of that missile to determine its not provocative either to japan or our neighbors in the south or the region. If it was, United States, number one, would take it down. Number two, then that would open the door for a military response. We have to keep that on the table and also be very, very clear that, look, United States and south korea are not looking at the reunification of the peninsula. Were not looking for a one korea solution and the denuclearization of the peninsula is aspirational but its a pipe dream. Its not going to occur. But, general, you have the president just weeks ago threatening north korea with fire and fury. True. Should it threaten the United States once again. Now it has clearly threatened the United States once again. The words this morning, it will eradicate the land of the u. S. With no trace left on earth. Sure. Did the president box himself in . No, i dont think he did. My point is, this type of rhetoric is certainly not helpful but its not relevant. What is relevant in terms of the Korean Peninsula and clearly the target being the communications target being pyongyang and the regime. Its what we do, not what we say. What the president says, i think, is not particularly helpful. What is helpful is the fact that United States and south korea remain prepared and words, vitriolic communications really add nothing to this. We get whipped up about that stuff but we shouldnt. But, laura, when it comes to south korea and having the United States on the same page as this key ally in the region, especially youve got in the last 48 hours the president criticizing south korea, talking about their, quote, unquote, appeasement policy that he says will not work. And then youve got leaks coming out, Washington Post reporting that the president is strongly considering pulling the u. S. Out of this trade agreement, which would infuriate south korea. Effective strategy here . Im extraordinarily concerned with what appears to be a lack of strategy from this administration and, in particular, a failure to be coordinated with one of our key allies in the region, south korea. Will mentioned earlier the number of times that President Trump has spoken with japanese Prime Minister abe. He has not spoken with the south korean president , moon jaein since the nuclear test over the weekend. Instead, as you noted, he has tried to humiliate them on twitter, leaks about the Free Trade Agreement and his considering pulling out of that. Problem is that one of pyongyangs goals is to divide us from our allies, to divide us from south korea and japan and what President Trump is doing and saying is playing right into pyongyangs hands. Helpful context for what youre saying, you have had in the last 24 hours, President Trump speaking with Prime Minister shinzo abe twice and then theres 30 hours before he called president moon of south korea. And senior officials in the white house are telling us that the president has grown frustrated increasingly at moons stance, which he called apie appeasement at north korea, not believing that president moon is doing enough. Given all that, is it also important to note that china has very different goals here . Big picture, laura, for north korea and the future of the peninsula than the United States does . Absolutely, poppy. Its really important. You hear a lot of talk about how china needs to do more. China has the leverage. Those are both true. Theres no question that we need to see china taking further action to kurtail trade, cut off the flows of money and supply that are fueling and providing input for the nuclear and Missile Program bus we need to understand that china will never have the same interests as we do. Thats why it concerns me when we see very vague statements from the president about whether its cutting off trade with, as you indicated, would be implying china here, or whether its about china needs to solve this for us. China is never going to solve this for us. Its really dangerous if we begin to think in that way. We also want to say i agree with Major General marks on many things. Unfortunately, i do disagree with him that the president s words here dont matter. Our adversaries and allies alike look to the president s words as a key signal of both deterrence and reassurance. The credibility of our words matter incredibly in these kind of scenarios. One of my biggest concerns i see playing out right now is miscalculation by one of our allies that thinks the credibility of our defense commitments arent real or miscalculation by pyongyang who misreads a signal that President Trump inadvertently sends. I think these words matter extraordinarily and that they seem to be uncoordinated from any major strategy is concerning. Do you want to respond to that, Major General . Words matter but in this particular case, actions are incredibly important. If we, in fact, continue to hold and we do, the military option as being part of the solution, we understand that there is nothing but a bad outcome that would result from that. Clearly, kim would disappear. His regime would go away. China has a different opinion about what north korea would look like after some kind of would occur. We need a strategy thats pretty well articulated. The words the president uses in terms of the message it gets to pyongyang is much different than the message that gets to our allies. I agree, that concerns me. We need a tight, cohesive alliance. Frankly its never been stronger in terms of our Regional Focus in that part of the world. This is as strong as its ever been. General marks, thank you. Laura rosenberger, thank you very much. Global threat reaction coming fast and furious around the world to north koreas Hydrogen Bomb test. And the president said to scrap protections for socalled dreamers, or ending the daca program amid growing backlash from his own party. What does this mean for the hundreds of thousands of dreamers currently in this country . Well speak to one live right here. Massive cleanup after harvey and a huge price tag. 31 crashes, 4 food fights, and the flood of 09. Its your paradise perfected with behr premium plus paint. Right now get incredible savings on behr. Only at the home depot. You myour joints. 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He hasnt detailed what he would do but threatened fire and fury, right, if there were even another threat from north korea. Now theres been another threat from north korea, saying they will wipe the u. S. Off the face of the earth. What plays does the white house have in its playbook that could actual ly work . He said, actually, hes trying to figure that out himself. Defense secretary mattis saying that he would be talking to the president to explain what the options are. We have to realize that this whole issue is relatively new to the president and so the approach that he is taking is not based on having a deep amount of knowledge on these issues. Yeah, but his team does. His team does. But the reality is that they dont know yet what they want to do because theyre still trying to figure out what it is that north korea is doing. What we do know, though, is that they are not responding to trumps words that he needs to back down. Theres a new report, caitlyn, interesting from our White House Team in d. C. , that the president is increasingly frustrated with moon jaein of south korea. He called it appeasement. He called shinzo abe twice, he took 30 hours to call moon. He is threatening, according to t the Washington Post to pull out of trade agreements. What is the end goal there . Would it be effective to anger one of your most significant allies in the region . This issue, to your point, represents the way in wish Trumps Campaign promises are coming to reality here with these foreign conflicts. Remember, he campaigned, of course, on withdrawing from different trade agreements, talking tough on trade with other countries, from withdrawing u. S. Presence around the world. So all of these things are kind of coming to a head here in north korea. In many ways the president is left with little options, very few options. Experts say there are no really great options left. The president is also learning kind of the diplomatic routes here, right . He thought he could have a relationship with the chinese president , thinking that the chinese president could be tougher on north korea. A lot of people said that wouldnt happen. Hes realizing that now. Trade, of course, was an issue in his relationship with the japanese president. Now these relationships have changed and morphed. Lots of people were concerned about that threat, that chiding of south korea, when that c