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CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy Harlow May 29, 2018

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That meeting that was canceled five days ago with President Trump confirming that north korea dispatched a top aide to come to the United States to engage in more discussions in hopes of setting that meeting back up. I should note nothing has been officially reinstated and the white house has not formally announced the meeting is back on, but theyre acting as if it is. Several things going on including the top aide coming to the United States. We know several National Security aides inside the white house are worried there is not enough time to get this meeting back on track for june 12th, but President Trump is not concerned about that. Instead pressing his aides to get that meeting set up again for june 12th in singapore. We know that what the white house is looking to get out of that meeting seems to have shifted some. Before there was talk about what the North Koreans were willing to sit down and talk about, what kind of agreement they were willing to come to and were told people inside the white house like john bolton are advising the president that just sitting down with kim jongun and being face to face with him in singapore for a cursory talk is enough of a diplomatic achievement that could later lead to more serious talks down the road. So that is what they are looking at now, the president seems to be gung ho on getting this meeting back on track, having it happen in just two weeks from now. Hes been tweeting several times this morning, once his latest saying hell focus his energy on north korea and several other issues here at the white house. Trade being one of those. And instead of focusing on what he says is the rigged russia witchhunt that the president believes should be investigating hillary clinton, russia, the fbi, the justice department, president barack obama, former fbi director james comey and former attorney general loretta lynch. I should note two hours after the president said he was going to start focusing on north korea, he tweeted again, saying he believes the media is on a disinformation campaign. Poppy and brianna . Thank you so much. A lot of questions about who this former spy chief is, what does it mean that hes coming to new york to have these talks. Lets go to matt rivers in seoul, south korea. Tell us more about him. This is a very high ranking north korean official with a bit of a notorious past. As you mentioned off the top, hes the former spy master in north korea, and hes widely considered to be kim jonguns righthand man, a top nuclear negotiator. But here in south korea, hes not well liked. Hes accused of being the mastermind behind the sinking of a south korean naval ship, which killed 46 sailors when that ship went down. Hes also behind something americans will be familiar with, the 2014 sony hack over the movie the interview which our viewers will remember featured a plot to assassinate kim jongun. Yet, this is the man, despite his past, that the americans will have to deal with. This is the person the North Koreans are sending moving forward. This is just part of an overall diplomatic push here with multiple parties involved. You got the chinese talking to the North Koreans, making sure their interests are in play and hearing from the white house that japanese Prime Minister shinzo abe will be meeting with President Trump before this summit happens, perhaps during next weeks g7 meetings in canada, perhaps in washington, d. C. After that. But clearly there are lots of countries with Strategic Interests in this part of the world who want to see this table or have their interests represented if and when this summit goes forward. All right, matt rivers. We both say thank you to matt rivers. Thank you, matt. Thank you. So many thanks, matt, from both of us. And joining us now to discuss this, tony blanken, former deputy secretary of state and retired rear admiral john kirby, cnn military and diplomatic analyst and former state department spokesman, former pentagon spokesman as well. So, to you, admiral, the south Korean News Agency is reporting at this point in time that a high ranking north korean official is coming to the u. S. As early as tomorrow after a stop in beijing. What does that tell you about the summit and any expectations that we should have for it . Tells me three things, brianna, the summit is more likely to happen now than not. Theyre sending Kim Yong Chol here, it tells me theyre taking it seriously. Ive been talking to experts over the last couple of weeks to get myself to better understand all this. And they tell me that the North Koreans will be ready. They understand the knee audienc nuance, the details, they will be studied and Kim Yong Chol beale here tells you how seriously theyre taking it and how ready they want to be. Thirdly, how much china wants to have at least a figurative seat at the table. They want their interests represented and thats why they have him coming to beijing. They met with kim jongun twice there. The only thing that the chinese like less than a Nuclear Armed north korea is the specter of a Korean Peninsula align and united with the west and the United States. They want to make sure their interests get represented. Tony, this is the art of the deal president. Hes the one who said he can make deals that past administrations have not been able to make, namely peace on the Korean Peninsula would be a huge one. You say, look, the kim family in totality has become masterful at the art of the steal. What do you mean . There is a long track record of negotiations with north korea, that ended in failure. And North Koreans have been very, very good at doing three things. Stringing out negotiations, wringing out economic concessions and then ultimately walking away from any hard commitments they make. We have to be very, very cautious heading into this. That were not heading for a repeat of exactly that kind of process and dynamic. By the way, thats exactly what president obama tried to get out of it to break that pattern. All of that said, the bottom line here is that both of these leaders want this meeting. Kim jongun wants it and needs it because it gives to him what his predecessors, grandfather and grandfather could never get. President trump needs it because hes so hyped his ability to pr do, that it would be a failure up front. At best this is the start of a process, not the end of one and will take a long time to do this right, meticulous preparation, negotiation, and we got a long road ahead of us. It is a better place to be than where we were a few weeks before the olympics when it looked like we were heading to conflict. I wonder if you agree with some of what the top aides to the president are telling him, like, john bolton, theyre saying if you just have this cursory meeting with kim jongun, it is going to be a diplomatic victory. Do you agree with that . I think is something to that. It is a rare thing for me to be in agreement with john bolton, but i think hes right in the sense that the worst thing that could happen is for the president to go there, try to make some big deal, which you cant you cant do in one meeting and declare victory that turns out to be hollow and gives north korea things it needs without getting anything for us in return. So i think if they see this as the start, an initial meeting and then handoff whatever theyre able to agree to, to negotiate, look, it took almost two years to negotiate the agreement with iran that President Trump, of course, has thrown out. He set a High Standard for himself by throwing out that agreement, he said agreement he has to reach with north korea has to be even better, stronger. It is impossible to get that done in one meeting. It may be impossible to get that done period. Are the North Koreans going to dismantle the vast bulk of their Nuclear Program up front as iran did in the iran deal . Are we going to get most Intrusive Inspections regime in north korea as we did with iran . Thats a high bar. I think theyre right to approach this and saying, look, the meeting itself will be a step forward, it can set the conditions and the atmosphere for talks going forward. Lets take our time, lets do this right, lets not rush into a bad deal. What about the folks that the president has at the highest levels doing all of this work ahead of the summit, if it happens. Tony blanken said this is the ateam, if you look at the ambassador to the philippines. The people surrounding the president doing the leg work, right now, what do you make of them . I think it definitely ca notes how seriously this administration is taking this issue and trying to solve this problem and work it through diplomatically. I said of all of the National Security problems, this administration has handled, they have done the best with north korea. Has it been perfect, no . The policy has been a little bit wavering at times. They have worked together, even with the previous team, when tillerson was there, to solve this problem. I give them high marks for that, for taking it as seriously as they are, for laying this ground work, for secretary pompeos direct involvement. All that gives me a sense of optimism the summit will happen, and it also tells me that we may not be able to get denuclearization as a result of the summit itself, but maybe well come out of it with a framework for negotiations moving forward. It will be the beginning of a long process, but i think thats a good thing. Admiral, appreciate your time, guys, thank you very much. Ahead, quite a claim from the president this morning, meddling in the midterms, the president pushing this new Conspiracy Theory about bob muellers team. Also, the coffee giant starbucks closing 8,000 stores today for antibias training. This after two black men were arrested simply for walking into a philadelphia starbucks and not buying anything. And hes a national hero, a migrant in france scales a building to save a small child. Now hes speaking with cnn. Tmobile keeps your family connected with new iphones. Which is great. Unless your parents thought you were studying. Somebodys busted. 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This morning, the Trump Administration is pushing back on reports that the department of health and Human Services has lost nearly 1500 migrant children. Theyre saying that the kids who were placed with vetted sponsors arent missing, but that the sponsors simply wont respond to followup calls. In the meantime, this is all happening while a republican revolt in the house is happening over immigration. That is intensifying there. Joining me now is former republican congressman charlie dent to talk about this. There is a number of data points here when it comes to this immigration story. But lets talk about this one, congressman, about the 1500 almost unaccompanied minors who came into the u. S. , so they came in without parents. I dont want to confuse this with the parental separation issue, they came in without parents, they were matched up with sponsors. The federal government doesnt know where they are. And the Trump Administration has been taking a lot of heat for this. I was speaking with one source who said that this may be a situation where many of these sponsors, who may be undocumented themselves, are actually hiding in a way, right . Theyre hiding from the federal government. This is a Political Climate that they may be fearful of. Because of that, do you think this is something that the Trump Administration should be held accountable for . Brianna, i think both the Trump Administration and congress should be held accountable for this. I dealt with this issue in congress. Two of these office of Refugee Resettlement areas or programs were in my district. I visited both of them. These children who came across the border unaccompanied are placed in hhs facilities. And then they get their vaccinations and theyre cared for there for a period of time and then distributed out to sponsors, oftentimes family members, throughout the country so there could be a young person who is in bethlehem, pennsylvania, and theyre distributed out to who knows where, kansas. Im not surprised that we have trouble tracking some of these folks. I suspect some of the reasons why we cant find them is some people maybe dont want to be found, sometimes people move. I am not i suspect that hhs needs to get a much stronger handle on this issue in terms of tracking these young people. We have always had a problem with interior enforcement. I think this is more evidence of it. On the issue of family separation, right, it used to be there was more of an emphasis on if someone came into the u. S. Undocumented, if they came in with a child, that there was an effort to keep that relationship in tact in detention facilities. Now there is this increase that youre seeing of kids being separated from parents. This is part of an emphasis of the Trump Administration and in some cases talking about small kids, young kids. Do you worry this is going to back fire for republicans politically . Well to the greatest extent possible, i would like to see these children remain with their parents. Now, oftentimes young people were coming across the border unaccompanied. They dont have a parent with them. There might be another sibling, older sibling, the best practice is to try to keep the Families Together. Of course, you cannot place these children in adult detention facilities. Ordinarily if youre an adult who is detained, youre in some kind of an ice facility through homeland security, but children are handled by hhs and office of Refugee Resettlement. So we have to keep children separate from at adult population, but want to keep the Families Together to the greatest extent possible. There are some moderate republicans in congress who are just overall worried about this issue, specifically when it comes to dreamers. I want to read an oped from john kasich in usa today about daca. If members fail to agree on a daca solution, with or without using a discharge position, thats something that some republicans are signing on to, democrats, i fear congress will never have the confidence to tackle far more complex immigration issues. In fact, inaction on daca suggests to me our Current Congress given todays hyperpartisan atmosphere may be totally incapable of solving any complex problem at all. What do you think about that . Well, governor kasich is precisely right in this case. This daca issue should not be very difficult to resolve. This is a 90 issue, it seems, or close to 90 among the electorate. We have to marry up some enhanced Border Security, with an accommodation for the dreamer population, pathway to citizenship over a period of time. We can easily do this. And i saw that you had on the show earlier today on new day you had jeff denim, my former colleague, i signed on to that discharge petition before i Left Congress and they will have the requisite number and force a queen of the hill strategy, meaning the bill that passes with the most votes in over 218 will be sent to the senate. The bill i think will likely the bill that will likely be the one that is getting the most votes is the hurtaguilar position, it provides a pathway to citizenship for the dreamers and it provides for enhanced Border Security measures, i call it a virtual wall, so to speak. Thats the one i think has the real shot. We have to take care of this issue. These im proud of my colleagues for standing up, forcing this issue. Leadership, house leadership for whatever reason doesnt want to bring this bill to the floor, i think they like to see a majorit

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