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CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy Harlow August 2, 2018 13:00:00

The latest news from around the world with hosts John Berman and Poppy Harlow. The latest news from around the world with hosts John Berman and Poppy Harlow. A furjry trap. You have to be thinking the president has to be thinking well if i dont sit down with mueller at all and if i never grant this interview how do i go out there and explain to the American People i wouldnt do an interview even though i didnt do anything wrong. I think thats exactly right and part of the calculation that is creating such hesitancy on team trumps part about whether to sit down, two ways to look at this interview politically and legally. Politically as you point out it might make sense for the president to sit down. He could try to wrap up this investigation quicker, before the midterm elections potentially and tell the public look, i am cooperating like ive been saying im doing nothing wrong legally as the lawyers pointed out his lawyers feel like its a massive risk for the president. Legal experts ive talked to involved in past special investigations say they wouldnt advise their most studious client to sit down with a team like mueller s this seems so here including everything back to the lester holt interview talking about why he fired james comey. I was going to say, wouldnt that include intent, what you say in an ontherecord interview . Of course. The problem is when you look at each piece of information in isolation which is what the report will try to do and then put the picture together, the mosaic is important but so are the individual pieces and without that informative interview youre left with the interpretation aspect, well, do i have enough for corrupt intent or do i have somebody exercising president ial prerogative. Good point. Alex, Rudy Giuliani on the trail yesterday this election is going to be about impeachment or no impeachment. Is he right. I dont know about impeachment or no impeachment. Thats the argument republicans want to put out there. Its whether congress will investigate the president aggressively or not and to lauras point, the overwhelming likelihood right now as far as everyone in washington is expecting is that mueller is not going to completely finish the job here that some element of this will fall on congress, whether its Something Like impeachment or a follow up inquiry or investigation using Subpoena Powers of the house and senate. Right now that isnt happening because remember republicans control the levers of investigation. If democrats were to take the house its a safe bet not that they would do meechlts but that they would make the president s life absolutely miserable with that subpoena power. Amber we heard Rudy Giuliani saying over and over how much time and energy this is sucking up from the president. How many times he has to talk to the president about Whats Going On and that its hard to focus on other things but in actuality the Trump Administration is doing a lot at the same time that this may be sucking up the oxygen or eating up his twitter feed. If you look at whats happening now and today you have two big things happening through rule making, that is reversing the obama administrations policy when it comes to emissions on cars in a major way and also allowing the sale of Health Insurance plans that undermine the rules of obamacare and these are things that are happening on their own but not getting the attention. Well, yeah, and i think Trump Administration actions are going to escalate as Congress Calls it quit bes sides trying to fund the government this fall so theres a distance between Rudy Giulianis argument by saying we cant focus on anything else. And if mueller tried to subpoena trump and that went up the latter of the court to try to force trump to sit down, that would be a main argument on team trumps part is saying you cant force us to sit down because were the president and busy with a bunch of other stuff but as you point out, well see the Trump Administration acting on a whole host of issues as congress takes a break. The Clinton Administration tried to do that but it didnt prove to be fruitful in the end. Thank you very much, laura, alex and amber. The socalled Rocket Docket is living up to its name. Paul manaforts trial will resume day three. What were learning about his luxurious lifestyle and how he paid for it and will his former deputy take the stands . Plus thanks and see you soon. On the same reports we ear getting word that north korea is working on a new missile, the president sends a late night tweet praising kim jonguns kind actions for the remains that were returned. 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I was stunned to see this Headline Cross that its a question as to whether rick gates will take the stand. We know with rick gaits flips but he might not testify . We were shocked. Reporters in the courtroom ran out to report the news. That was a surprise because we had anticipated that. Though the prosecution never indicated they were going to Call Rick Gates, he is on the witness list but theyre not bound by that. The defense made more of an issue of this trying to blame everything on rick gates here so all of this transpired yesterday while a witness was testifying, an fbi agent was testifying and the prosecution was asking some questions and the judge basically said well youre going to have rick gates come in here so why doesnt he just testify to this and then the prosecutor responded we dont know if were going to Call Rick Gates. We may or may not so that set off this chain of events, all of us leading to believe that perhaps there is a whole thing that maybe he wont be in court to testify. The prosecutors are also hanging a lot of this on trying to convince the jury by showing them look, heres how us a ten tashsly he lived. Look at the money he didnt report or pay taxes on but the judge had been blocking them from being able to show these goods and try to make their case to the jury and theres an update . This lavish lifestyle perhaps some might say somewhat tacky. There were 15,000 purchase of an ostrich jacket pictured there so the jury has not been able to see these photos. The judge has not allowed prosecutors to display them in court saying essentially, the judge is arguing there is no reason to do this and at point point the judge told the prosecutors living a lavish lifestyle is not a crime so overnight prosecutors are arguing, they filed a brief with the court saying they want to introduce this into evidence. They need to show it to the jury because the whole point of this is that a lot of these items with purchased through overseas money, wires that came to these companies from Shell Companies that manafort controlled and overseas accounts and the prosecutors need this to show how he was using the money, how he was hiding this money and how he was living this lavish lifestyle. And today who takes the stand and why are they critical to the prosecution. More of the same. Its going to be vendors, bookkeepers and tax folks that will come in and talk about manaforts finances. This is important because theyll again detail some of the taxes he wasnt paying, Shell Companies he created and how he was hiding his money overseas, obviously this is what this case is about. Its about taxes and not reporting Money Manafort made and hid in overseas accounts. Shimon, appreciate the reporting. Thank you so much. Lets bring laura coates back in for the legal side if the prosecution doesnt Call Rick Gates to the stand that would be stunning. It sounds like the lawyer tried to back trap after he said it in the courtroom. If they dont Call Rick Gates, why night be . Theres two reasons. The idea he may have tried to backtrack is important. The reason the prosecutor said they may not Call Rick Gates is because judge ellis, known for intervening and inserting himself into the questioning and making sure its an expeditious proceeding is trying to tell him why are you asking those questions . If you Call Rick Gates it will be irrelevant and the prosecutor has every right to build his case the way he sees fit and not hinge his case on one witness. The other reason is now after Opening Statements the prosecution is well aware of the defenses strategy. That theyre going to do a he said he said game and rely on the jury believing that the person who is the informant, the cooperator for the government is not a credible person so theyve taken a lot of air out of those sails by saying you better rethink your strategy, this is a documentheavy case and we may not ever have to Call Rick Gates so your he said he said Credibility Issue may never come to play. The Rocket Docket that is the nickname for this court and specifically judge ellis who tries to move things along so quickly, why . Couldnt bit dangerous to justice, frankly, to rush things too much . Well, there is that thought that perhaps if you are trying to cut corners and there is an injustice happening however the notion that somebody would be if sill ta facilitating a quick trial should be the goal. Its not that he is trying to expedite in a way to cut corner bus to keep focus and say listen, this is not a trial weve put wealth on the stand. We are trying to ensure the government has a case based on whether or not he paid uncle sam and lived above his means or whether he did not. However there have been assertions by previous people in front of the judge including prosecutors in this case who believe perhaps that this is becoming too expeditious. They said it would be a threeweek trial, poppy. At the rate its going right now that is a gross overestimation of how long it will take. Wow. Quickly before we go, what do you know about this judge . He is becoming a central part of this. Quite a character. This is somebody who has spent 30 years or more on the bench. Princeton, harvard and oxford educated. Is known to speak spanish to his spanishspeaking defendants. Equal parts warmth and scorn for people trying to slow down the Court Proceedings and he would like the focus to be on the crime. That is a great thing. The other part is remember this is the same judge who questioned the motivation of why the Special Counsel would try to go after Paul Manafort and upended of who the audience of one was going to be. Was it Robert Mueller or donald trump . He is known to be kuwait fire. Somebody who at one point was known as the Tasmanian Devil because he will make sure that his courtroom is in order even if it means there is pie or egg on your face in the process. Laura coates, thank you very much for being with me on all of this this morning. The president is praising kim jongun for his kind actions on the same week were hearing north korea is building more missiles. And were moments away from the opening bell on wall street. 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It will take months if not years to determine who these remains are and how they connect the dna samples and what is in the boxes so while its a good start, it isnt Mission Accomplished in terms of all the remains. This is one of the few areas in the world where the defense p. O. W. m. I. A. Accounting agency doesnt have access on a daily basis so theyve been prevented from going into these areas for the last ten years. Again a good start, very good for families of these Fallen Soldiers but its not as big a deal as it could be if kim played ball in terms of returning the 5300 remains in his country. What about the timing of this . That the the praise of kim jongun, thanking him for a, quote, kind action comes the same week the Washington Post broke the reporting that north korea is working on one, possibly two new missiles at a very critical location and factory and the fact that we just heard Secretary Of State mike pompeo testify under oath before the senate that, yes, north korea is still produce this fissile material. We know theyre still enriching uranium. Its appropriate for the president to thank chairman kim for these actions. Thats could be part of a Negotiating Technique to praise him, asking him to do more, continue to engage. But truthfully when you see the other more important elements of denuclearization which have not been accomplished and there doesnt appear to be Movement Toward that, in fact all indicators from the Intelligence Community and the State Department is just the opposite of happen iing, it seems to be strange these kinds of effusive comments from the president to mr. Kim are saying some of the things that are indicating some of the things that were seeing. The one part that troubled me was i look forward to seeing you again. Without any action on the part of the lower level officials like some of the engagements with Career Diplomats to include the Secretary Of State. I wouldnt advice personally the president to go back again for another summit until more actions are taken by the kim regime. Lieutenant general america hertling, thank you. Thank you, poppy. Wait until you hear this next story. The tsa may actually stop screening passengers, all passengers at 150 airports in this country. Why would that happen next. Why would that happen next. Liberty mutual saved us almost 800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. With liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. Hey oh, thats my robe. Is it . When you switch to liberty mutual, you could save 782 on auto and home insurance. 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Tsa did their own analysis and found this would save them 115 million. They say they could use that money to bolster security at larger airports but the proposal doesnt list which airports could be impacted but we know it is estimated to be more than 150. Test say screens passengers at 4040 airports. So like a quarter of them . The way this would work is if youre traveling through a Small Airport U8d both you and your luggage arriving at a major airport would then be screened and the whole Operating Theory here for this the authors of this proposal is that terrorists arent interested in targeting small aircraft, they want t

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