As you mentioned, 64 pages worth of documents and this is the most detailed picture weve got goten so far of robert bates training background. This is information that has been requested of the Sheriffs Department in tulsa since just after the shooting. The Sheriffs Department citing investigatory reasons for not releasing them. Now clearly the attorneys for robert bates going on the offensive here in starting to provide a lot of the documentation. What we see in these documents is several years worth of what lawyers say are the documents for firearm certification, several years worth of that as well as the score you see the scores on this firearm training that mr. Bates received as well. And then also some comments in there, poppy, where there was actually favorable reviews of mr. Bates and his interaction with the public and his performance in some of those roles as a reserve deputy. So this is 64 pages worth of documents. Now, there is one thing in particular that still stands out in all of this and the lawyers for mr. Bates do acknowledge there are several years worth of documents around 2012 2013 that are not accounted for. According to the lawyers for mr. Pats they say that these documents probably might not exist anymore. They might have been destroyed inadvertently or for whatever reason they simply of not been found. So again this is the next step in all of this. We havent had any reaction from the lawyer for eric Harris Family yet. We just got these documents a short while ago and are beginning to pore through them. As we mentioned off the top, this is really the most significant kind of description and detailing of mr. Bates training history since he became a reserve deputy back in 2007 2008. And i know ed that the Tulsa Sheriffs Office had said this week that look some of these records are old, that they were not digitized, they were paper and therefore may have been misplaced. First to you, has the Sheriffs Office there corroborated these documents yet . Have they responded to them and said yep, this checks out . Reporter no. We just got these a short while ago, so im not really sure to what extent they have seen them or if they were involved in the process of helping out mr. Bates and releasing these documents. Im just not clear on that at this point. But all of this poppy, remember significant because the tulsa world newspaper there in tulsa has reported that these documents many of these documents perhaps were falsified, the Training Records for mr. Bates were falsified by several deputies there within the department. The Sheriffs Department and lawyers for mr. Bates have denied all of this. But that story is still out there. The lawyers are also going to Great Lengths in the statement in this document release to criticize what they believe is one of the sources for that story, saying that this is a former deputy who is now sitting in jail accused of murder who would sign an affidavit saying some of these documents are falsified. The problem is thats one source. The newspaper there in tulsa is actually saying that it has five sources that corroborate what they say are allegations of falsifying these records. So still a lot of questions about how all of this is going to play out, but theres definitely a strong Public Relations battle under way now, as both sides try to lobby and convince you know the public of what they believe is right in this case. Ed ill let you get back to poring through those 64 pages of documents. Get back to us when you have more. This is significant because eric harris the 42yearold that was killed in this sting operation, was killed because as the Deputy Reserve officer, robert bates, said he accidentally pulled his gun he says instead of his taser. He meant to strike harris with a taser and instead he shot and killed him. Lets bring in our panel to talk about this. Harry houck, Cheryl Dorsey is a retired lapd sergeant and the author of the book black and blue the creation of a manifesto. Thank you both for being with me i appreciate it. Harry, let me turn to you first. Looking at this the lawyer has now turned over to cnn these documents. The tulsa world paper has said some of them are falsified, that this reserve officer did not have the 480 hours of training necessary. Regardless of if he did or not, does this call into question whether reserve officers basically voluntary Police Officers should be able to carry guns and potentially kill people . Well they do all over the country. You know we dont do it here in new york city but theres reserve officers that carry all over the country. But should they be able to . Should they be able to . I dont know. We have an incidence here where i think weve got to look at the age of the gentleman. 73 years old. Talking about his reflexes. I know Police Officers are forced off the job in some departments at 62. So heres a guy that was 73 years old on the scene where he shouldnt have been and resulted in this horrible shooting. So i think the big issue here is the department itself. Ive never been an opponent of politics and Law Enforcement blending together. Ive never been an opponent of any Law Enforcement official being voted into office either. I think this will show you right here on example of why thats a problem. Youre talking about the fact that this is someone who had donated a lot to that police department. Sure. Who was friends with the sheriff. But he says and the Sheriffs Department maintains that had nothing to do with it. He was helpful to the group policing where he lived and wanted to do everything that he could to help. Cheryl to you, what is your reaction to this . First of all, i find it interesting that mr. Bates attorney would try to discredit the deputy that he says is sitting in jail charged with murder because, after all, isnt mr. Bates charged with something very heinous . So who do you believe . And understand just because those documents exist, we this necessarily know if theyre valid because there is that rumor out there that those who didnt speak the Company Speak and werent willing to falsify records were moved. So its very telling to me when the sheriff stands before a bank of cameras and is asked about mr. Bates verification of his credentials and qualifications what he says is as best i know or to the best of my knowledge. That sounds like double talk. That sounds like cold talk for if you catch me later and he wasnt qualified, ill just say to the best of my knowledge i thought he was. Cheryl one thing wung thing i want you both to respond to this. One thing that robert bates did and showed when he was on the today show yesterday being interviewed is the very different location on his body where his taser is held versus where his gun is held. Let me ask you first, cheryl, as someone who served in the lapd is it possible that even with the required training that could happen or that has happened to anyone else that you know . Certainly i dont know if its happened to anyone else. What i would say is based on my training and experience it should not happen. You train so that when youre in a moment of excitement in stressful situations you act on second nature. You just do that thing that youve practiced over and over. We understand according to mr. Bates he received 300 hours of training between 2008 and 2015. If you do the math were talking about maybe 42 hours of training per week on average over a sevenyear period and he hasnt fired his weapon at the range since the fall of 2014 . Its inadequate. The training is inadequate. He performed in a way that would explain the lack of training that hes had over these last several months and maybe years. Harry, there are professions i mean most professions you cannot be a volunteer. You cannot be a volunteer brain surgeon, right . Exactly. Should you be able to be a volunteer officer . Well volunteer officers are utilized by Police Departments in the country basically just for things like traffic and parades and things like that. But this was a setup sting operation. This is the problem. I said this is the problem before as to what happens when you inject politics into Law Enforcement. This guy was allowed it appears to me that this guy is allowed to be on scenes like this where hes not a professional. I tell you what you probably wont get any of these officers to speak out about it but i bet you they dont like the idea of a man like that being on the scene either. Lets remember that the oklahoma naacp has now called for an investigation into this because they say, look none of the other officers have been charged. You know there was another officer who had his knee on eric harris head during this situation, so well see how that develops. Today right now the friends and family of eric harris are saying goodbyes at his visitation as he is about to be laid to rest. Appreciate it. Well take a quick break and talk more about this on the other side. Also something were following very closely. The center of the republican universe is in New Hampshire today. Those are live pictures. Mike huckabee a man who hasnt yet set whether hell run for the highest office in this nation is speaking along with all of his other potential competitors. 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To learn more or support the cause, go to huntsmancancer. Org. The general election may be more than a year away but you wouldnt know it if you were in New Hampshire today. 19 count em, 19 potential republican hopeful, including all the big names and heavy hitters are in town for a big leadership summit. Its a chance to meet with voters and test out their stump speeches before New Hampshires first in the nation primary. One of the latest candidates to take the stage in just the past few minutes, South Carolina senator lindsay graham. Barack obamas Foreign Policy is a miserable failure. Razz cal islam is on the rise. Those who want to hurt our country are stronger than ever on the our friends like israel are afraid. Somebody needs to change it and they need to change it quick. So when you elect somebody in 2016 i hope you vote for a commander in chief that knows what the hell theyre doing. Not mincing any words. Athena jones joins us from nashua New Hampshire. This is the beginning of a long long race just even in the primary. Look are they mainly attacking president obama and Hillary Clinton or are they sort of making jabs at one another . Reporter well theyre mostly attacking president obamas policies and of course Hillary Clinton, who as you know is the only officially declared candidate on the democratic side. Lets play what Carly Fiorina had to say about Hillary Clinton. Shes, of course the former ceo of hewlettpackard. Had and play that. Go ahead and play that. Hillary clinton must not be president of the United States because she does not have a track record of accomplishment because she lacks the candor and transparency that are so necessary to leadership and because she will pursue policies that will crush this great nation. Reporter and she is not the only one to bash senator clinton. Senator rand paul criticized her handling of the attacks in benghazi libya, saying her dereliction of duty should maybe you disqualified to run for higher office. So a lot of bashing of clinton and president obama along with their touting of conservative prips like cutting taxes and cutting government spending. So its one thing to be on stage trying out your stump speeches but its another thing to be among is it the people in New Hampshire, to spend time with them and talk to the voters as we saw Hillary Clinton do in iowa this week. By the way shes going to start doing in New Hampshire on monday. How are they doing making connections with voters on the street there . Reporter well we know that a lot of these candidates have been not just speaking at this summit in the hotel here behind me but also holding other events smaller town halls. We saw governor Chris Christie in the days leading up to this weekend and holding another event at a bar last night. We also have seen a lot of them speaking at the New Hampshire politics and eggs breakfast. We saw former Florida Governor jeb bush trying to connect with the audience there. Thats going to be an important part of this the retail politics. The thing about New Hampshire, its small enough for these candidates to go all around the state more that once. Its something that governor bush told me he really enjoys. This event right here it really is about the activists and the super engaged voters. The people who are paying attention already right now so far out. But moving beyond a summit like this they are getting into the towns around here and trying to reach the voters where they are, taking questions, introducing themselves and trying to make their case. Poppy. Athena jones, live for us in New Hampshire. Thanks athena. Well take a quick break. Back with more news on the other side. Turning overseas someone on a motorcycle blew himself up and killed 33 other people in a crowded street outside a bank in the second largest city in afghanistan. Isis is claiming responsibility. What makes this even more troubling is where this happened. So far isis has not before now staged a Suicide Attack within afghanistan. In addition to those killed more than 100 people were injured in the explosion. You see some of the wounded there. Lets bring in bob baer who knows the regional well. How significant is it in your opinion that a, this wasnt carried out by isis proper it was sort of an offshoot of isis and also the fact that it happened within afghanistan . Well poppy, what it tells me is that the isis franchise is growing rather than getting smaller. You know afghanistan, the resistance should be the taliban. They denied participation in this attack it was too violent for them. So the fact that people are claiming allegiance to the Islamic State is bad news. And, you know you couple that poppy, with attacks in egypt and sinai, the attacks on ramadi even isis in yemen, and the idea this virus as i call it seems to be spreading rather than retreating. And, yes, they may have lost tikrit but then they pop up somewhere else. They have given up the refinery in iraq and appeared somewhere else. So this is a fight thats going to go on for years and years and is not going to be easily accomplished from the error with a few troops. These were civilians in line at a bank just trying to pick up their paycheck trying to get their salary. What do you make of the statement that this isis Offshoot Group is trying to make by killing these civilians by all we know not tied with any sort of group, just fearly people trying to get their paycheck. And these people are from the same sect sunni muslims. What youre seeing the Islamic State doing is attacking anything associated with the west whether its archaeological ruins or banks or airplanes. Anything that postdates the prophet mohammed theyre going to go after and destroy. This is a movement that frankly, i havent ive never seen this. You know in a thousand years in the middle east. Out to kill randomly in our terms. And, therefore, if you havent seen it you know in the course of the history of conflicts in the region you know just imagine what the u. S. Is dealing trying to lead the coalition fight against it. I want you to take a listen to what u. S. Ambassador to the u. N. Samantha power, had to say yesterda