To honor them in pittsburgh. But this morning, synagogue leaders have conflicting opinions on whether President Trump should visit this community now. I do not welcome this president to my city. Hes the purveyor of hate speech. The president of the United States is always welcome. Im a citizen, hes my president. Hes certainly welcome. What is the president saying this morning . Hes using his favorite platform, twitter, to take aim at a favorite target, the media. Blaming the media for fueling the anger. Calling them the enemy of the people once again. Joining us is jean casarez. You have been here with this community for some hours now, days. Tell us whats happening today as they cope with this. You know, were downtown pittsburgh right now, and its biz as normal. The hustle and bustle of the city, but the reality is the city is mourning. It is mourning so hard. But another fact is that within hours of the massacre at the tree of life synagogue, federal, criminal charges were filed. And that means that a defendant needs to have their initial appearance very shortly thereafter for constitutional reasons, and were right outside the federal courthouse. That initial appearance of this defendant is set for 1 30 this afternoon. It will be very short, but it will talk about the charges. He will be apprised to be given notice and acknowledged that he understands the charges before him. He will be told he can have an attorney to represent him, although we fully expect an attorney to be by his side. Now, this is a case that is being brought as a hate crime. And you can not bring a case like this unless the attorney general of the United States or his designee signs off in writing. It is also Death Penalty eligible. That is because of one particular charge, the intentional obstruction by force of the exercise and enjoyment of religious beliefs resulting in death. And those are the 11 victims in this case. That is what allows this to become a Death Penalty case. Also, there are charges in regard to the four officers that were wounded. There are firearms charges. The carrying, the use, the discharge of the firearms. That elevates this and can enhance the penalties. And finally, this can become a Death Penalty case if this is murder. The intentional infliction with malice aforethought, and we know the autopsy, cause and manner of death, many of the victims were shot directly in the head. Which shows to the prosecutor the intent of this shooter. Jim. Poppy. Jean casarez there in pittsburgh. Joining us now, legal analyst paul callan, cnn Law Enforcement analyst josh campbell. A former fbi supervisory special agent. Josh, i want to ask you this question. These are cases of domestic terrorism. Theyre designed to kill and strike fear. And theres often been this question as to whether enough resources are being focused on this kind of terrorism, as opposed to the one we tend to talk about when we talk about terrorism, which is islamist inspired great threat. Does domestic terrorism in your experience get the resources it needs from Law Enforcement to prevent these kinds of attacks . It has resources, but it doesnt have the same legal underpinning as international terrorism. When you think about islamic extremi extremism, isis, al qaeda, and the like, there are severe penalties for those who operate in violation of those laws. Not the same with domestic terrorism. Federal law defines domestic terrorism, but it doesnt make it a criminal act per se. What Law Enforcement officers have to deis find some other violation, whether its use of weapons or some charge that can fit. Thats the debate going on in the country. The last couple days, the fbi association has been calling on congress and the white house renewing their call to pass domestic terrorism legislation. The other side of the debate is people say well, who can decide what a political agenda is or what the back and forth well, as jean reported, paul, the attorney general has a bit of a say here as well, right, in terms of what can be charged here . Absolutely. Thats why in these hate crime cases that the attorney general generally signs off on it. There could be a big dispute as to whether certain kinds of expression or political commentary is hate or motivated by something else. Its a very careful analysis that is made by the Justice Department before they proceed with hate crime charges. Death penalty you think likely here . Yes, i do. With 11 victims, such a clear cut case. I mean, obviously, it appears theres not going to be a big issue about guilt or innocence here. What i think we will be looking at is whether he has a history of Mental Illness and whether there might be an insanity defense or at the very least on mitigation of the sentence, you may see his attorney saying he was mentally disturbed and therefore should not be sentenced to death. Josh campbell, one of the president s immediate reactions has been a familiar one to other shootings. Is that, well, they could have had armed guards in the synagogue and prevented this. He said this after School Shooting before. Im curious, in your years at the fbi, the nations premier Law Enforcement agency, were there ever serious discussions about armed guards, we havent done the count, but there must be thousands of synagogues, tens of thousands of schools, thousands of kroger stores. Was there ever a discussion of deploying 10tens of thousands o armed guards. Thats the debate. What kind of country do we want to be . Do we want to be one where you cant walk into a house of worship without walking into essentially an armed compound. The interesting debate we hear about after School Shootings and these events, and the president said minutes after this, without having a full understanding of what took place, he said a good guy with a gun would have stopped a bad guy with a gun. At Law Enforcement academies to include the fbi, officers fire thousands and thousands of rounds in order to achieve a certain legz of proficiency under a nonstress situation. You want them to be the best of the best because when youre actually in the fight, stress hormones coursing through your veins, the adrenaline will significantly degrade your accuracy. Thats baked into Law Enforcement training. They know youre going to be worse of a shot in an intense situation. What do you expect the public to do, people who havent gone through that rigorous training, whether its a security guard, a member of the public. It creates the opportunity to cause even more violence, more infliction, but again, we have seen instances where a good guy with a gun has stopped a bad guy with a gun. Thats why it continues to be a serious debate. There were cops there, they got shot. Some of them did. Put their lives on the line. Thank you. A few hours until theyre both in court. Joining now is Democratic State senator from pennsylvania, jay costa. This is his district. Thank you for being with us very much, and im so, so sorry because your ties run deep, right . I mean, you serve this community as the state senator for 20 years. You have lived in the community for 50 years. Your childhood friends mother rose was one of the victims killed. Thats correct. Yes. Go ahead. It is very tough. This community has been part of my life for a number of years, as i mentioned, and its very sad. Its hard to believe that these type of offenses are taking place in our backyard. But i will tell you, pittsburghers are strong. As has been mentioned throughout. This is a great community, and the city of pittsburgh will rally around our folks in Squirrel Hill and our Jewish Community. We had a member of the community on earlier who said she wants to make sure that Squirrel Hill is not forever now identified with this shooting. In a list of shootings that she mentioned. All it be columbine or sandy hook, tell us about the community and thats different from what we saw here and how you maintain that Going Forward. It is a different community. Its a wonderful place to live and raise a family. As we have done here with my parents. Its a welcoming community, but i also recognize its one that will Work Together and join together to do what needs to be done to remember certainly the individuals who lost their lives here but more importantly, how we go forward as a region. And not to want to be recognized as one of those horrible incidents we heard around the world and around the country. We have a lot of work to do, a lot of healing to do, but together, knowing that the Pittsburgh Region will join together, everyone in this region will join together to work to make sure that doesnt happen. We have heard mixed reaction, senator, from leaders in the Jewish Community about whether or not they would like the president to come visit. Of course, he condemned the attack in the minutes after it happened and hes done so subsequently. Hes also pointing a finger of blame at the division in this country this morning again to the media. Politics aside, youre a democrat, yes. Would you like the president to come . You know, ive got mixed feeli feelings. I would like him to come only if hes going to come here and denounce the hatred thats taking place through social media and other types of ways. Denounce some of the antisemitism going on in this country. That would have to be for me to want to be accepting of him to be here, to spend time in this community when its hurting so badly is he would be here to help heal and help denounce some of the things that have taken place. And that really begins at the top. Some of the rhetoric that comes from our administration, our president , concerns me, and i think needs to be toned down quite a bit. And thats going to be the reasons why hes here, then i would be accepting of that. But for the most part, if its a continuation of things we have heard over the course of many, many months hes been in office, then i think its probably better he doesnt come here. I think it would only add hurt to folks who are trying so hard to heal and folks who are trying to come together here. Let me ask you, then, what people there want to hear in terms of healing words, or want to see done as well. You heard the president suggest, well, there could have been an armed guard at the synagogue. Are your constituents coming to you asking for that kind of step . What are they asking for . They are asking for an opportunity to be able to worship without being in fear of somebody doing exactly what occurred here. In pennsylvania here, we have taken Great Lengths to try to strengthen our safety with respect, for example, to our schools. And with legislation and money we put aside to hardening our schools and the like. Whether or not we get on this path to expand it to places of worship remains to be seen, but at the end of the day, what they want to do is worship in peace. And we cant even provide that to them right now. So theyre concerned about Going Forward, and we will have that conversation Going Forward about whether or not we need to come together to figure out how we protect those who want to worship, whether it be here at the synagogues here in Squirrel Hill or, for example, the catholic churches, whatever the case might be. Finally, before you go, if the president comes, if you have a chance to talk to him, what will you say . If he comes and i have a chance to talk to him, i would tell him to really step up his denouncing of the antisemitism that takes place and to speak up and stop being a part of the dialogue in this country that spews hate. Thats what i would like to say to him. Change the tone, turning it into a more positive way to allow folks to come together and not spew the type of hate we hear oftentimes. Senator costa, thank you for taking the time. Please pass on, if you have a moment, our thoughts and prayers to the members of the community there. We support you, and were going to do everything we can to draw attention to what happened there. Thank you. Thank you both very much. Thank you. Still to come, in just a couple hours, the man investigators say sent those pipe bombs across the country to prominent democrats, former president s, cnn as well, will face a judge for the very first time. 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Threats against former president s and other persons. Threatening interstate communications and assaulting federal officers. If he were convicted of all those charges, he could face up to 48 years in prison. But this morning, he is waking up in the federal Detention Center here in downtown miami. Thats the building with the tiny Little Windows that you see behind me. During todays proceeding, what were expecting is for the judge to read sayoc his charges, ask if he needs an attorney, if he needs one, one will be appointed to him, and because this is a very highprofile case and because the Southern District of new york has already said that the prosecution will happen in new york, then sayoc is also entitled to a removal hearing, which could happen today. And it could happen at the same time. Just depends on what the judge determines, what his attorney determines once he gets to speak to sayoc. So jim and poppy, we will learn more about how quickly sayoc could be transferred to new york, probably today at 2 00 p. M. Okay. Thank you, rosa, for being there, for the reporting. This happens in a few hours. Well keep you posted. The mail bomber, the killing of two africanamericans in kentucky, the horrific attack at the synagogue in pittsburgh, all hate fueled crimes that occurred within one week, just a few days here in the u. S. This morning, the president is taking to twitter. Hes blaming the media for what he calls the, quote, great anger in this country. His critics say hes one of the people at the top, at the top, amplifying this atmosphere. Allowing hate to thrive. Lets talk about this. Cnn political commentator steve cortez, and joshua green join us now. Thank you, gentleman, for being here. Its an important discussion to have. Joshua, youre the author of the book devils bargain and you have reporting, but for people who havent read it, why dont you reiterate what your reporting taught you about antisemitic themes you report were used during the campaign. I would say this isnt the first time that antisemitic themes have cropped up in regard to donald trump. During the campaign, trump was well known for not only retweeting antisemitic imagery, but some of his ads featuring prominent jewish bankers and propagating well known antisemitic themes. His closing ad in the campaign talked about a dark web of financial corruption, flashed images of people like george soros and lloyd blankfein, and he came under criticism from the Antidefamation League at the time telling him these are painful and dangerous stereotypes. Youre essentially energizing antisemites, antisemitic energy in a way that is harmful to our culture. I think with the shooting in pittsburgh, you can see the effects of those types of messages on some disturbed people. But at the time, trump and his campaign rejected that criticism from the adl and fired back. Its been clear to me, anyway, to anybody who follows what trump says and what he tweets on social media, that he hasnt backed down one inch from those criticisms and continues to use these tropes and this language talking about invaders. Pushing the idea of, you know, nefariously funded Migrant Caravan moving up to invade our borders. And all the kinds of language that have stoked and energized some of the people we have seen sending pipe bombs, conducting a massacre in pittsburgh, and you cant separate the language from the events were seeing in the news. Steve, give me a chance to respond to that. Theres one giant problem with your argument. That is that this monster who thats not an argument, just laying out the facts. Its not just the facts. Its not just the facts. Here are the facts. The monster who perpetrated these atrocities in pittsburgh, he absolutely hated jews. He also hated donald trump because he thought hold on. He didnt think he was going