President is saying. Many of those governors Standing Firm on those restrictions to keep the virus from spreading, and for all those who are protesting the restrictions, dr. Anthony fauci, he has a message for you. Unless we get the virus under control, the Real Recovery economically is not going to happen. So what you do if you jump the gun and go into a situation where you have a big spike, youre going to set yourself back. Lets begin this hour with brynn gingras. She joins us with more in new york, the nations epicenter. A really clear warning there from dr. Fauci. We have a long way to go and thats what officials in new york are saying as well. Reporter yeah, governor cuomo, poppy, has said essentially were at half time. Yes, the numbers are going down, less people are being hospitalized, but the numbers need to be adhered to in order to keep those numbers down. We have a long wait to get to the bottom opening up the economy, opening up business again. If you guys remember just a couple days aweeks ago, we were talking about the need for ventilators. Now in order to open the economy, testing is the main concern as you outlined for your viewers, and its governors across the country, both republicans and democrats, saying we need washington to step in. Just over the weekend the president essentially said its up to the states to get their testing up to capacity, even taking it a step further saying there were governors who were not utilizing their Resources Available to them. He said some are complaining about this issue. But our recent harvard study has said only 150,000 people are getting tested daily when we need three times that number to even start that process of lifting these restrictions. The governors said we need Lab Technicians and help getting the supplies, reagents, help getting swabs. There are a number of issues governors keep pointing to on both sides of the aisle in order to get more tests, in order to take even the next closer inch to actually getting this economy back where it used to be. Brynn, just as youre speaking, we heard that mayor de blasio of new york city is cancelling all nonessential big events in the month of june in new york. That would be parades, concerts, rallie rallies, large gatherings just showing how long a reopening in this city will take. Brynn, thank you very much. Lets go to South Carolina because you have four coastal communities pushing back on the governors plan to ease restrictions on the public. Beaches, jim. Natasha is in South Carolina. Were seeing that the locals want to be safer, more conservative, get different direction from the state level. How does that play out on the ground there . Reporter absolutely. So we are seeing there is a protest planned here in columbia on friday of people protesting stayathome orders. So you would think that they would be pleased with reopening businesses. But i did just speak with a democrat in greenville, South Carolina who is running for congress. She and some others with Public Health backgrounds have a Facebook Group with more than 28,000 members urging the governor not to do this. She told me she was absolutely floored by this announcement. She feels this is dangerous considering South Carolina has not hit its peak yet, and she says that the retail workers will be struggling with that decision to balance between earning a paycheck and risking their lives, essentially, with this announcement. Natasha chen there in South Carolina. Well, the White House CoronavirusTask Force Says it is keeping an eye now on the boston area because of the spread of new cases there. Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker said the state is, quote, right in the middle of the surge now. Youre seeing different states, communities reaching that surge at different times. 100 . Lets go to athena jones. She joins us live this morning with details. Good morning, athena. Reporter good morning, poppy. Well, massachusetts as a state has now surged to the third spot just behind new york and new jersey when it comes to total number of confirmed coronavirus cases. Thats significant. 38,000, more than 38,000 confirmed cases in the state of massachusetts, more than 1700 deaths. Its important to note about 6,000 of those cases are in longterm facilities in the state. But as you mentioned, the White House Coronavirus task force is taking a particular look at boston. We heard this from Vice President pence saying that while new york and long island and other metro areas are beginning to stabilize, theyre keeping a close eye on boston. Dr. Deborah birx calling it a hot spot. That is because about 45 of the cases in the state of massachusetts are coming from the Greater Boston area, Suffolk County and Middlesex County which encompasses cambridge. Let me show you what the boston globe has done to try to highlight the death toll and the real toll this virus is taking, not just on the state of massachusetts but beyond. They put together 16 pages of obituaries on sunday. Usually its seven. Compared to this sunday last year. I should be fair, this is not just deaths in massachusetts, this includes other states. There are mentions of other countries, but the idea here is to highlight that this is a real issue. We know that governor baker says as of right now, the hospitals do not appear to be overwhelmed going into the weekend. A large percentage of beds were still available, but theyre keeping an eye on this. Athena, thanks very much. Its been quite an increase there for boston. Lets talk about all thats developed this morning. Thanks for being with us, doctor. Thank you. I want to get to test ing ina minute. But look at the beaches opening in South Carolina and look at boston surging. What should we make of this . Thank you for that question. A couple things. We are really in the thick of it in the Greater Boston area where i am, and i think the next this week and next week are going to be very hard weeks for us. But its a reminder that different parts of the country, different cities, different states, different towns are going to surge at different times. So we dont have one spike and a decline, but well have a series of them across the United States. The hot spots we need to focus our attention on and help them get through that phase as quickly as possible. We heard from the president and the Vice President both saying there is sufficient testing to at least go to phase 1 of reopening in some places. So many governors, republicans and democrats, countered that with their own facts on the ground. You believe we need 500,000 tests done a day just to even think about reopening . Where would that put us . Yeah, so were doing about 150,000 now, and our estimates of 500,000 really are very conservative. What weve been trying to think about is what is the absolute bare minimum . The way we think about this, if you open up and you go out to your Dunkin Donuts and pick up a coffee, you want to be pretty sure the person serving you coffee isnt infected and shedding virus. When you go to a restaurant, you want to know that your waiter isnt shedding the virus. The only way well know who is shedding and who is not is if were doing a lot of testing. If we cant test more than we are right now, the idea that it will be safe for people to go out and live their lives in the economy is going to be very, very difficult for most people, and i think a lot of people just arent going to do it. We heard from ohios republican governor, mark dewine, yesterday on meet the press and he said he could probably double or triple testing virtually overnight, quote, if the fda would prioritize companies that are putting a slightly different formula together for the extraction reagent kit. Is that a good idea . Basically, is some red tape getting in the way here . Yeah. So, look, we have to come up with lots of different solutions. Every state has a different bottleneck, and what you need is a federal government thats deeply engaged helping states. Right now we have a federal government that keeps giving the wrong message to the american people. They keep saying we dont need any more testing, we dont need any more testing. Thats just wrong. I dont think the experts at the white house agree with that. They know we need more testing. I dont understand why thats the message, but yeah, the federal government has to partner with states and help states ramp up testing, and the federal government needs to be a really important facilitator there. That test could be very helpful to ohio. I dont know the specifics of it. Right. Id like to focus the remainder of our time on Antibody Testing, because i think this week especially people are going to start hearing a lot more about this, reading about it, but there are risks depending on which test is used, right . Because the fda relaxed some guidelines and a lot of tests have flooded from outside of this country into this country that people can buy themselves and they think theyre protected and thats not necessarily the case. This is going to be a huge problem over the next couple weeks. In february the fda was so difficult to approve any test, we couldnt get testing going. Now i think theyve gone the other way and theyre letting every test, anybody who builds a test almost, getting fda approval. That means there are a lot of tests out there creating lots of false positives. If you get one of those Antibody Tests and it says youre immune, there is a very good chance that youre not immune. We have to be very careful about this. We dont want to give people wrong information. Theyre going to get hurt by that. We do need the fda making sure highquality tests are the only ones being used. 60 minutes did a great piece last night looking at putting plasma of people who had coronavirus into patients. We dont know if its going to work, but does it look promising to you . First, we dont have great evidence. That said, this is an area where im optimistic. We have a long history of doing this in medicine. There is some preliminary evidence that it works here in covid, so i am optimistic, but at the end of the day, were going to have to let the science tell us yes or no. Well know very soon whether the science is there. In just a matter of weeks. Dr. Ashish jha, thank you very much. Florida did just the opposite, opened beaches. But do we need a consistent natural approach if were going to beat this as a country . Coming up. Who are starting hiv1 treatment and who arent resistant to either of the medicines dolutegravir or lamivudine. Dovato has 2. Medicines in. 1 pill to help you reach and then stay undetectable. So your hiv can be controlled with fewer medicines. While taking dovato. You can take dovato anytime of day,. With food. Or without. Dont take dovato if youre allergic to any of its. Ingredients or if you take dofetilide. If you have hepatitis b, it can change during treatment with dovato and become harder to treat. Your hepatitis b may get worse or become lifethreatening. 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We may be apart, but were not alone. Use Aarp Community connections to find or create a Mutual Aid Group near you. Stay connected and help those in need. Floridas Governor Ron Desantis will meet with his reopening task force. This comes just days after the mayor of jacksonville, florida opened up public beaches, as you see here. Those beaches were very quickly crowded with people. The health and Human Services secretary under president clinton is here. Congresswoman, thank you for taking the time this morning. Youre welcome. When you see those pictures of people crowding the beaches in florida, are orders like this at this stage to reopen putting Peoples Health at risk . Yes. Its not only putting floridians health at risk, jacksonville is right across the border from georgia. And it tells you that one state cant make a set of decisions that are inconsistent with Public Health and with science because its going to affect another state. I think that decision was reckless. Look, i represent beaches. I represent miami beach, south beach, key biscayne, some of the most wonderful beaches in the country. We closed them down. We closed them down in the middle of spring break once we realized what the connection was with coronavirus. Weve got to stick with the science. But it shows you how undisciplined the leadership of this country has been. Because we do not have a consistent message and a consistent strategy working with the governors. There is no question the governors have enormous authority here, but the federal government has to play out its role. Governor raskin and i have done just that. It needs to provide all the equipment needed, including the testing. We are competing against each other, the hospitals are competing against each other. Its the wild, wild west and were paying more than sticker prices. Were paying bonus prices to get the equipment needed, including testing devices. So the feds have to take that over as they did during world war ii in terms of the production acts. Let me ask you about that, because every official we speak to on this broadcast, and i ask republican and democrat that question, do you need testing before you reopen safely, and they say yes. And then their next answer is we dont have the testing yet. Because of that, and youre hearing the same from the president s own health advisers, fauci included. Because of that, is discussion of reopening right now on a National Basis or a state basis or a local basis, is it premature . Absolutely premature, but more than premature, its dangerous. We dont have testing. We havent tested all of the First Responders. First you do testing the way were doing it, and that is for therapeutics to find out who has the disease. But then you have to test a much wider group of people testing for control, and then getting the numbers down to one so that you can follow up on the one person who has infected another person. You can follow up that case and pin it down. The states have to come up with their own strategies, there is no question. They have to be based on science. But then they ought to go to the federal government, probably the secretary of hhs in our bill, and present their plan and then weve got to fund it. Congress is willing to fund these plans as long as theyre based on science. But we need a much more disciplined strategy in this country or were going to continue to see these spikes, and its totally irresponsible to Start Talking about opening up before you have the scientific basis to open up, the Public Health strategy. Once we have that to wrap our arms around, then we can talk about opening up. But were not testing people in Grocery Stores. Start there. We havent started on a broad basis testing the health care workers. There is talk about expansion of loans to Small Businesses, perhaps adding 20 billion to testing. It strikes me whether its frustration or amazement. What youre saying right now weve heard for weeks, right . There needs to be a national strategy, money, plans, et cetera. But here we are getting into late april. Are you seeing evidence of this happening, a plan to even get the swabs, right . Basic equipment like that at the state and local level. Well, heres the problem. It was important for us to bring in the private sector. But each of these machines, these testing machines, require their own reagents. And so since we dont have uniformity, youre negotiating with Different Companies for swabs, for reagents, for other things. Thats why its so important that the federal government should have stepped up and taken over this process and then distributed everything that ev