I will be naming a new National Security adviser next week. Our Kaitlan Collins is at the white house,house, kylie atwood the state house. Kaitlan whar kaitlan, what are you hearing . After the president s tweet came out, john bolton sent one saying he was not fired, that he offered to resign last night. Sources are telling me that President Trump and john bolton got in a bitter disagreement last night over the president s decision to host the leaders of the taliban at camp daifvid, a sentiment that the president later scrapped when he announced it on twitter this weekend. That was a bone of contention between the president and john bolton in recent weeks, though we know they were disagreeing on venezuela and north korea, a number of matters in the last couple months. The president was frustrated. There were reports about john bolton pushing back on the president to host those leaders at camp david, a meeting that was largely put together while bolton was not here but instead overseas in europe on a trip. He was having to be beamed in to meetings in the situation room. Now youre seeing this pushback between the president and john bolton whether or not he was fired or whether or not he resigned, but we do know these remarks came from the president , and john bolton was keeping his own eyes on the secretary of state job. Thats mike pompeo, someone in recent weeks john bolton was not even on speaking terms with. Kaitlan, that was some of your very interesting reporting last week. It seemed very unsustainable that you had the National Security adviser and the secretary of state not even talking. Kylie, they were often on totally opposite sides of strategy. What are you hearing where you are . Thats right, so the state department right now not actually coming out and saying anything about this resignation. But what we do know, as you said, is secretary of state mike pompeo and National Security adviser john bolton have been aligned when it comes to policy very often, but they dont operate in similar ways. National security adviser john bolton, i just spoke with someone who is very close with him, and talked about how he is always pushing his agenda forward. If he didnt agree with the president , it was leaked out to the press that he didnt agree with the president just days later, and that is one thing that happened in the last few days when it came to afghanistan. As kaitlan said, there was a disagreement between President Trump and National Security adviser john bolton about inviting the taliban to camp david to discuss a way forward with afghanistan. Bolton didnt think it was a good idea, and we, as reporters, found out about that. So there is other disagreements, however, between secretary pompeo and National Security adviser john bolton when it comes to how they deal with President Trump. Pompeo has been in lock step. When the president decides he wants to do something, pompeo goes forth with that. An example of that is when it comes to north korea, right . We have secretary pompeo who has been leading the negotiations with north korea which have now hit a standstill. We know that pompeo is not someone who necessarily is all on board for that, but he has continued to push for it. On the other hand, we have National Security adviser john bolton who was publicly not in favor of what the president was doing here. These grand bargains that President Trump wanted to push forth, john bolton was not always such a fan of. That also happens when it comes to iran, President Trump wanting to meet with rouhani, bolton not thinking its a great idea. So there has been division time and time again between the president and bolton and time and time again between pompeo and bolton. Kylie, thank you so much. Kaitlan, thank you at the white house for us. I want to talk now with matt lewis, senior columnist at the daily beast. We have admiral john kirby as well as pentagon spokesman under president obama. And Gloria Borger, our chief legal analyst is here. So impressive the titles we have here. This is the expertise we bring to this discussion because this is a very Important Development that the National Security adviser is out. What do you think, gloria . Well, i think the president is now looking for his fourth National Security adviser and that should tell us something about the stability of the president s Foreign Policymaking decisions. This is somebody, john bolton, who as kaitlan was saying, had some problems with the secretary of state and with the president. And it seems to me that the president , when he hired him, might have had an idea that he and bolton were going to disagree on certain things. If he had just googled john bolton, he would have found out that he is a hawk, and the president is not. Hes more of an isolationist. They disagreed over a roiraq, afghanistan, venezuela. As we were talking before, the straw that broke the camels back, clearly the disagreement over whether the taliban should have been invited to camp david, and my reporting is, echoing kaitlans great reporting, that there was a fight between the two of them last night over this, because the fact that disagreements leaked out about this session and he was probably blaming bolton for being the leaker. Bolton said he would resign, the president says he was fired. He said he resigned last night. Im sort of inclined to believe john bolton in this case, but what im really interested to talk about, though, is what this means. Were right in the middle of so many crucial Foreign Policy tests the president is facing. Look, he hired this guy knowing, right, that at tthey disagreed r he should have known. Everyone knew. But part fortunaof the decision doesnt have a lot of takers with this job. Where does this leave the leadership on Foreign Policy issues. You hit the nail on the head, brianna. The search for a new candidate and whoever that person is and who he chooses, that will tell us about where trump thinks his Foreign Policy needs to go. There hasnt been a cohesive agenda in this administration. This is an opportunity for them to get a lasso around where they want to be in iran and china. How he selects this person will tell a lot. This will reflect his Foreign Policy if he chooses to make it. Just a couple things to sort of circle back, though. I think i would agree more with boltons philosophy, his Foreign Policy. I think hes more realistic. The danger of donald trump isnt so much that hes an isolationist, i think its that hes naive and quixotic and could be rolled by someone who convinces him. I think he will fight about it behind closed doors and go ahead and carry out the president s agenda and not leak. Well have to wait and see how this develops, but its possible that what bolton has done now is in a sense actually empowered the isolationist forces against the more hawkish people. Theyre not going to be represented in the room at least until we get a replacement. When kaitlan reported last week that pompeo and bolton were not even on speaking terms, i mean, that seemed completely unsustainable as a working environment to get something done. What does this do in terms of shifting some of the influence even more so towards secretary pompeo . To my point about the search, it will be really interesting to see how the search is conducted and who has the president s ear, who is putting up candidates and where are they coming from . Is it going to be rand paul, is it going to be pompeo who are clearly diametrically opposed on certain things. He is clearly hawkish and will leave it inside the room. So is rand paul. But this is about managing trump. And pompeo manages trump very well, and bolton gets in your face. So that doesnt work so well with the president , and hes always sort of felt like maybe he didnt have the right casting for the job. Remember when the president complained about boltons mustache a while back . Maybe he still doesnt like it. Matt makes a good point that he deserves a National Security adviser that fits the role he wants it to be. I dont know that donald trump has really come to grips with na job yet, so what is it supposed to be for me . Every president fills that job differently. I would hope given what were facing around the world, he picks someone who does not disagree in private but then is able to carry the policy going forward. There may be times when you say, look, it is immoral for me not to speak out. I think its possible to be an adviser and to feel like this issue is so vital, but thats a form of civil disobedience. When you do that, you have to expect youre going to get fired. And it wasnt just a leak about bolton disagreeing, it was a leak we realized that Vice President pence disagreed as well, which is terribly wounding to a president for that kind of disagreement to become public. So lets talk about who are the possibilities for this position . What kind of fantastic candidate can you get who says, oh, great, that job has the shelf life of like a loaf of bread. I was just looking at some statistics that said there has been a 77 turnover among his top advisers. Thats crazy. So who is going to walk into this administration and say, you know, this is longevity. I have a real opportunity to put my stamp on Foreign Policy. I have an opportunity to do what i think needs to be done in the world. Do we have any idea like who is in the mix for this . I think someone who is in the mix for it would be somebody that agrees with the president all the time. Do you think rand paul . I dont think senator paul would do it. I think he likes the influence he has on the outside now. Im just throwing this name out there because hes the first one that comes to mind and i think he would be exceptionally good at it and thats steve began. Not because mr. Began hasnt been working quietly to get the ball moving forward. Hes in Foreign Policy circles, hes smart, and i think it would be intellectually curious enough to want to take that job and see if he can make a difference. But if its not him, thats the kind of person i think you want to be looking for. Hes been on fox news lately, and thats the unfortunate thing. Thanks so much pho ato all o. Jackie speier will join me to react to these news. John bolton out as National Security adviser. Stand by. I found some incredible records about samuel silberman. Passenger manifests, census information, even wwi draft registration cards. The records exist. Theyre there, theyre facts. That made it so real for me, it wasnt just a story anymore. Bring your Family History to life like never before. Get started for free at ancestry. Com have you lost weight . Of course i have ever since i started renting from national. Because national lets me lose the wait at the counter. And choose any car in the aisle. And i dont wait when i return, thanks to drop go. At national, i can lose the wait. And keep it off. Looking good, patrick. I know. vo go national. Go like a pro. Doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacistrecommendeding . Memory support brand. 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Shes a democrat that sits on the house intelligence committee, the Oversight Committee and the Armed Services committee. First, congresswoman, i want to get your reaction on this breaking news about bolton being out. Well, i think that was coming our way for a long time. I think it was oil and vinegar, and the bolton hyper, in your face kind of political dynamism that he promotes and his efforts to want to attack everywhere just did not sit well with the president or probably mike pompeo. I think the relationship that the president has with mike pompeo is strong, and the fact that bolton and pompeo werent getting along was creating a lot of friction. For the American People, though, its yet another example of how there is no stability in the white house when it comes to our National Security. And this is the third or fourth National Security adviser weve had in three years. This is not a way to run a National Security branch. Who would you want to see take this job . Do you have any ideas . Well, i think that the president will only have someone come into this position who is a yes man. Thats not what we need right now. We need someone who has the skills and the depth of knowledge of our National Security interests that will represent back to the president as opposed to being just another yes man to the president. Im not confident that he will select someone that will serve our country and the National Security interests that we all have. When you have this kind of upheaval i mean, we heard last week from our reporting from Kaitlan Collins that mike pompeo and john bolton were not even on speaking terms. So thats not a con do you sduc working environment to pushing any agenda whether you agree with it or not. What does it mean when there is this kind of conflict for making decisions about Foreign Policy . You know, its another day in the white house. This is very consistent, where there is chaos everywhere within the administration. And unless you want to be a political thug to the president , you have a very short life span in that position, whatever that position may be. So we have lost sight of the fact that these positions are supposed to be serving the American People and not be foot soldiers for the president of the United States. All right, congresswoman, if you will stay with us, im going to get in a quick break, but we have a lot more to talk to you about, including this next story. Actually, no, i want to ask you about a new story that we have just reported, which is some new details. A russian spying for the United States with extraordinary access to russian president Vladimir Putin extracted by the cia partly over fears they could be unmasked by president donald trump. We know that they were providing information to the u. S. For more than a decade and had close access to president putin. The spy was even able to take pictures of documents on putins desk. Thats the kind of access they had. This proved putins interference in the 2016 president ial election, and we also now have new information on President Trumps feelings about the use of spies. Our jim sciutto broke this part of the story. Jim, what more can you tell us . Officials who served under this administration have said trump privately and repeatedly used intelligence from covert sources, including overseas spies who provide the government with crucial information about countries hostile to the u. S. In private the president has said that foreign spies can damage relations with their host countries and undermine his personal relationships with their leaders. The sources said the president believes, quote, we shouldnt be doing that to each other. One former Trump Administration official told cnn. In addition to such fear, foreign sources will downplay the relationship with the political leaders. Another former Senior Intelligence official told cnn that trump, quote, believes there are people who are selling out their country. We should note that even in public, trump has looked down on these foreign assets, as theyre known in the Intelligence Community. You may remember that after reports surfaced that the cia had recruited kim jonguns brother as a spy, the president said that he saw that information with respect to that source, and he said, in his words, that that wouldnt happen in his administration. Its not something that he would do. Of course, the trouble with that, brianna, is that this kind of information is something that intelligence agencies rely on to create a picture of what is going on in countries, particularly u. S. Adversaries, and what they intend for the u. S. It undermines one of the most ways, in fact, that agencies gather installation about u. S. Adversaries. Typically they rely on one or two things. They report on the taking out of one leg of that stool that has real consequences from National Security threats. Brianna . Jim sciutto, thank you so much. Congresswoman Jackie Speier is back with us. To be clear, congresswoman, this disclosure of private information from the u. S. To russians in 2015 was not about russian spies, as we understand, but promp