Transcripts For CNNW CNN Special Report 20161222 : vimarsana

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Special Report 20161222

What did we do to the islamic world . Americans are asking, why do they hate us . Emphasis on the last word us. Why do islamic e terrorists hate americans . Down to usa jihad reporter 15 years after 9 11 we are no longer surprised when they tell us they want to kill us. So what are you waiting for . You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center, and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle. Reporter but who are they . How many . And are they multiplying in a new deadly form . From the beginning, tomorrow it will be washington. It will be new york. It is coming. Reporter inside schools [ speaking in Foreign Language ]. Reporter Young Children are being taught how to kill us. For the sake of reporter if the goal of the propaganda is to terrify us, it has worked. Look at the mood in the country. Terrorism is front and center. Reporter that fear has paved the way for a new voice in this country. Welcome to the next president of the United States donald j. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the United States, until our countrys representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. [ cheers ] its going to get worse and worse. Youre going to have more world trade centers. Its going to get worse and worse, folks. Reporter trumps message has led some americans to say, who cares why they hate us . We hate them. Whos bombing buildings . Whos bombing airplanes . It is not the christians. Not the buddhists. Not the jewish. Its the muslims. You got that on camera, sport . Theyre coming together. Not going to be happy until they take over this country and we have to be under sharia law and im not going to bow down to them. Reporter americans are understandably angry and afraid. But with fear turning to hate, we need answers. Its literally a matter of life and death. When you ask a scholar steeped in the subject like rasheed, he makes an important distinction. Why do they hate us . If you take they as being muslims they dont hate us, a havent small extreme group of radical, thats an entirely difficult question. We call around muslims around the world to ban the american constitution and the American Flag. Reporter choudary comes from that very small group of extreme radicals. Choudary has been charged with supporting isis. Youre hypocrites. You dont have principles and that is your problem as americans. Reporter he has been sentenced to five years in an american prison. I personally hate the american regime. Reporter he faces prison for isis but unrelenting in that support. Never mind the kidnappings, the beheadings, the sex slaves, to choudary, the Islamic State is paradise. There is peace. Theres no corruption. Theres no bribery. Theres no usury, no alcohol, gambling. All of the vices which youre used to in america and other parts of the world dont exist over there. This idea theyre raping people, why dont you listen to what muslims are saying on the other side . Go interview some of the people. They will deny these things. Because, mr. Chaudhry, they kill journalists, thats why. They are raping people in islam. Reporter they kill journalists, mr. Chaudhry. These could be my last hours. Reporter in fact, isis. Moderator erred at least 23 reporters in the last two years. Among, americans james foley and stephen sokolof. Let me not get into the frankly nonsense youre spouting about the Islamic State and the peace and brotherhood there. Ho do you explain, mr. Choudary, that people are fleeing the Islamic State . Reporter despite documented evidence of tens of thousands of people desperately fleeing isis [ crying ] choudary claims more are arriving. People are coming into the Islamic States. Christians coming back to mosul, embracing. You dont show those because it doesnt fit your agenda. Reporter and then the floodgates open with the reasons why choudary says he hates us. Freedom of expression. Freedom of religion. They sound very nice but where is the freedom and expression for people in Guantanamo Bay . And people tortured in abu ghraib and i bet you loved that, didnt you, fareed . Do you hold that up as an example of libber ti, democracy, the american way, the American Life . You know, george bush flushed those down the toilet saying we can flush them away because were talking about terrorism. Reporter but the United States intervened in bosnia to protect muslims. Intervened in afghanistan and supporting a government that has been elected twice by the afghan people. Fareed, youve spent too much time in the cnn world, in the real world the people in afghanistan hate the americans. Reporter in the real world, mr. Choudary, determined by polls, not by what you say, and the polls overwhelmingly show it, as do two elections. Its not true. Youre living in hollywood. Some kind of makebelieve world. Reporter i come back to the simple proposition, if the groups you seem to support from al qaeda to isis were as popular as you claim, why dont they hold elections . Why do they have to go around murdering or slaughtering, raping and forcing people into submission . For a moment i thought you were talking about Guantanamo Bay, talking about rape, torture and oppression, but obviously, you are not talking about that. Democracy hypocrisy. Reporter choudary reminds me of marxist idealogues i met in my youth who could explain away anything in their belief system. The anger against america is deep. What is striking, that america remains the obsession of choudary and of so many who have seldom, if ever, been here. Reporter so what happens when a jihadi is one of us . An american . Are the reasons he hates us the same . To the muslims in america, i have this to say how can you have your loyalty to a government that is leading the war against islam and muslims . Reporter no one has scared American Security officials more than anwar el awlaki. Wanted dead or alive by u. S. Authorities. Head of al qaeda in yemen. Helps plans attacks on the United States. Reporter he is the driving force behind virtually all of the worst terrorist attacks in america since 9 11. We are facing you as men who love death just like you love life. Reporter he is an american born in new mexico. Educated at Colorado State university. How influential is he . Dzhokhar tsarnaev, the Boston Marathon bomber, wrote about his teachings as he lay bleeding in a backyard boat waiting to be captured. Responding to reports of multiple victims reporter one of the San Bernardino killers, the husband, sayyid farouk, watched awlakis video sermons for years. The deadliest shooting ever at an American Military base. Reporter and psychiatrist nadal hassan who murdered 13 americans at fort hood in texas. Has san emailed a awlaki about his plans. The underwear bomb er tried to blow a plane out of the skies in detroit under orders from awlaki. But here is the strangest twist in this American Horror story. After the 9 11 terror attacks, al awlaki was invited to lead prayers at the u. S. Capital. Considered such a perfect role model, a moderate imam in falls church, virginia, that the Washington Post did a story about him. Theres always this association between islam and terrorism. When that is not true at all. I mean, islam is a religion of peace. Reporter but gradually it is possible to see the beginnings of his disenchantment. Theres anger and resentment, but not hatred. Hatred seems to be something that comes out of nowhere. There are reasons for this resentment. The fact that the u. S. Had administered the death and homicide of over 1 million civilians in iraq reporter no one seems certain when al awlaki became a fullfledged jihadi. One thing is clear, he was scholar of islam yet never cites his religion when he speaks about why he hates us. Everybody, come outside. Push them this way. Over here. Reporter his reasons, like choudarys, are about American Foreign policy. The socalled war against islam that jihadis always speak of. [ phone dialing ] the fbi began to monitor him. He fled to yemen and eventually became a top leader of al qaeda. Would you say that al awlaki is at least a Severe Threat today as bin laden . Probably the most significant risk to the u. S. Homeland. The americanborn al qaeda reporter theres one important fact about anwar awlaki i have mentioned. He is dead. An american drone strike in 2011. But heres the most frightening fact. Awlaki is still killing americans. Some of the bloodiest terror that he inspired happened after his death. The San Bernardino killings, the Boston Marathon bombings. Al awlaki is on the internet right now and thousands of his videos are just a click away. Do you remember the good, old days when americans were enjoying the blessings of security and peace . Reporter the man is dead. The message is not. And yet his main explanation for why they hate us doesnt ring true to me. The United States has for better or worse waged war in many lands. Why are there no vietnamese or cambodian terrorists . And why do they kill mostly other muslims . The explanation for the violence in the world of islam must lie somewhere else. Somewhere deeper. Some say it comes directly from the koran, but is the muslim holy book being distorted . The koran promises a martyr in the name of islam 72 virgins. Is that true . Reporter what exactly does the koran promise martyrs . When we come back. Hi, were the hulford quads. laughter were in 8th grade. Technology is the only thing that really entertains us. Im gonna use this picture on sketchbook, and im going to draw mustaches on you all. Using the pen instead of fingers, it just feels more comfortable for me. 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There is a connection between the religion and the violence. Its time to stop saying that this isnt about islam. Isis is is uber islamic. Uber islamic and its time its said. The next time a bombing or beheading occurs and god knows it will, the first thing you will hear from the mouth of a socalled moderate muslim is, oh, no, no, no, no. Please, dont misunderstand. Islam has nothing to do with this. Thats simply not true, because most of the people doing these bombings and beheadings say they are doing it in the name of allah, and they actually cite verses from the koran. We are men honored with islam who climbed its peaks to perform jihad. Reporter the controversial question triggered a shouting match on bill mahers program. The motherload of bad ideas. Jesus. How about more than a billion people who dont punish women, just want to go to school wait a second. Youre saying all muslims. Wait a second. Youre stereotyping. Take bad things and paint the whole religion with lets get down to who has the right answer here. A billion people. All of these billion people dont hold any of those these pernicious beliefs . No, they dont. Reporter we will come back to afflecks point about the numbers. But lets just look at the text. The koran does contain verses that encourage intolerance and violence. It recommends a fiery death for gay people, in a shower of brimstone. But look at the bible on the same subject, in leviticus if a man has sex with another man, kill them both. Both holy books also have passages recommending murder for nonbelievers. This verse in the koran is the one that isis has taken literally. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore, strike off their heads. Our knife will continue to strike the necks of your people. Reporter but the same belief that guides isis also appears in the bible, in deuteronomy, believers are instructed to stone nonbelievers until they die. Two holy books with violent passages, with one obvious difference jihadis are acting on what they read in the koran. Islam is being manipulated. It is being used. Reporter this man points to one colorful example of manipulation in a famous koran story. The koran promises a martyr in the name of islam 72 virgins. Is that true . It is not true. Reporter she says that several scholars studying the original text came to a startling realization. Nowhere in the koran does it promise 72 virgins, 70 virgins, 48 virgins. What it promises as far as heaven goes is something lush. The arabic word for virgin has been mistranslated. The original word that was used in the koran was the word for raisin. Not virgin. In other words, martyrs would get raisins in heaven, not virgins. Reporter 72 raisins. Imagine the surprise of the terrorist who expected something completely different . We will march through the gates of the paradise where our maidens await reporter the story goes radical twisted half ideas, but it also reflects a growing new reality, the violent jihadis who carry out isis terror attacks often know little about islam. In many cases theyre petty criminals, dropouts, unemployed, many cases drug users, who nerve her anything to do with religion. Have no religious training whatsoever. You probably know better than me even. Maybe you have studied. Completely ignorant of religion and latch on as way to act out their alienation. Reporter the abdeslam brothers fit the profile. These are the isis killers par i thing at a highend nightclub in brussels. He was the mastermind of the paris attacks, and braheem blew himself up in paris. It is easier to brainwash recruits who are not religious. Former radical told the new yorker that for purposes of recruitment, having no back ground in islam is actually an advantage. This man is trying to stop the recruitment process by exposing people to all of islams ideas. Im pointing out they have the raw material, has the elements for a change. Reporter there is another famous koranic story. A fathers two sons convert to christianity and leave home. The father asks the Prophet Muhammad to bring them back, but muhammad declines saying there is no compulsion in religion. The book itself cannot speak. It is we muslims who speak on its behalf. There is a beautiful passage in the koran, one of many beautiful passages that states, god does not change the condition of a people until they change what is inside themselves. Reporter and to those who say, well, you are cherry picking what do you say . I say, yes. Thats correct. And so are you. By not acknowledging the freedom loving verses of the koran. 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