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CNNW CNN Tonight February 5, 2015

And what happens in the courtroom when the mother of the vikck tim sees a photo of he her son, and the jury does not know about it. And i want to get to the breaking news that the u. S. Is moving assets to iraq to fight isis. And now we have our correspondents around the world, and we will begin with you in iraq, and what are are you seeing there michelle ka zinosinski . These aircraft are moved and shifted on a constant basis as the location of the air strikes are changing, and what you can gather from this is that there is more action many this area in northern iraq, and talking about e over the flights and the air strikes, and any of the situations with where the pilots are overhead and as a result would be at risk and clearly the u. S. Military wants to make sure that the rescue assets are there, and just in case something happens. I think that it is going to be interesting to see if h this is a result of jordan promising more air strikes in the near future. We will have to wait and see are where the loecations are. And in talking about this, this u. S. Official who is giving this information is that it is not as if they are giving away anything to the enemy in the way that we are talking about the location but just because the air strikes have been constant and the locations are spread out and changing, and a lot of the targets that they are hitting are fixed, stationary. It is not as if isis can move a build org the airplane hangar in a big hurry. It is clear that we will be seeing a number of the air strikes and soon, don. And michelle, we are hearing that the United Arab Emirates has stopped the air strikes, and has the u. S. Military moved a response to this some. The u. S. Official is saying no the assets are shifting as the mission is changing. What is interesting is that the uae is saying ha they have stopped the air strikes, and an important partner, and still a member of the coalition, but important partner in conducting the air strikes, and so few other nations are doing this especially in syria, but they said that they felt that once this jordanian pilot was captured in december they felt that the response to rescue was too slow, and it might have contributed to him being captured and they were concern d concerned about the their own pilots being at risk. That is a big deal. The u. S. Response was that there was an intensive rescue operation initiated right after this happened as result of the circumstances on the ground they could not get to the pilot but the u. S. Is disputing that the rescue assets were not available. They rare saying that not the case in this situation and that precautions have been taken so that pilots are not at risk. Some analysts are believing that the uea is doing that to stop the air strikes is excuses and political pressure for stopping the air strikes inside of the Arab Emirates but with the terrible murder of this jor dan jordanian murdered pilot, the pressure is back on again, and they believe the air strikes will start again. And jomana, the father of the jordanian pilot, demanded that they avenge his sons death. Translator i demand that the government of jordan avenge the blood of my son. I e demanddemand that the revenge is bigger than executing prisoners, and i say that this criminal be annihilated. There are reports that the mother ripped off the scarf, and that jordan will increase the air strikes, and is that going to be enough for the public though . Well, don, this is what the people want to see. They have said that they have heard the promises are from the jordanian government and from the king here in jordan and the officials have promised earthshaking response when it comes to the killing of the jordanian pilot, and now they say they want to see it and they want to see it fast. As you mentioned, there is talk that jordan could increase its air strikes as part of the coalition mission. This is something that we are getting a sense that many jordanians want to see. Not everyone in the country supported the governments decision to take part manyin the u. S. Led coalition against isis, but today, we we were out on the streets, streets, and we spoke to people here, and there seems to be following the killing of the pilot, there seems to be a change in the sentiment or opinion here that more people are rallying around the government and the king, and they want to see a military response against isis. Are they worried, jomana about becoming a bigger target of isis because of the air strikes . Well from what they are seeing so far, don jordanians believe, that they are already a target especially with the latest brutal kill canning of the jordanian pilot. This has shocked the nation, and it reminded them of what a target jordan is to these extremist groups. Jordan can hashas been hit before many 0 2005 as we have seen when al qaeda had taken control in neighboring iraq, and now the jordanians are concerned as they have been for a while as there is so much territory controlled in two neighboring countries and bordering countries syria and iraq. And we have been seeing the security increasing as isis was make tg making the advances in iraq, and of course, there is the concern about the jihadi threat within. Jordan has always struggled with with the problem of extremists within its own borders, too. And jomana thank you so much. And standby as well. Joining me is now fareed zakaria, the host of fareed zakaria, gps. We are getting word now that the uae has suspended the participation in air strikes for against isis. What do you see about this . Well, there is more of a smoke screen than real because of the slow response to the search and rescue. And this is a shift in the war that is going well for the United States and badly for the isis. The execution, and the brutality of it is masking a reality which is that isis is not doing particularly well on the ground. It is not doing well in iraq. It has not done particularly well in syria, and though there it is more mixed. They did lose the battle of coe banny, ni kobani and remember that the hypothesis is that they took two japanese hostages. Why would they do that . Because japan is irrelevant . It is because japan is so rich and so maybe they are not doing as well on the moneymaking side as we think. So all nin all, maybe isis is not doing as well as we might think. And so the video of the pilot being burned to crowds why would they do that . Watching the execution of the pilot, and cheering . Why would they do that . What are they trying to accomplish of that . The key strategy of terrorism is fear. Showing it on the big screens . Yes we have the big crowds, and they love us, and we have support, and support for the brutal methods and the whole idea is to frankly make us scared overe reaktreact and fearful, and make us think that they have a big army out there. And generally speak inging, what is true about the terrorism, you are surprised how small the force was, but because of the illusionist trick, and doing the things they are doing now, they make you think that they are much more dangerous than they r and bigger than they are. Senator Lindsey Graham today. No other countries have flown in syria other than jordan. We have flown and all of the other arab coalitions combined have been less of the combat time than syria. And so if the discussing the desecration of a muslim does not get the arab countries to the act, h then what will . It is a good question and on this question i agree with Lindsey Graham and some of it is the Obama Administration is to blame, but it is not. It is a problem for the last 15 years. All of the mulltilateral, and all of the socalled multilateral mission, the United States bears the disproportionate burrdenburden afghanistan, kosovo, libya, and all of these cases, if this is not going to get the countries going, what will . The uae is a good example, and it is because the population is divided and the government likes to play it safe, and all of these governments are very cautious because they are not democratic and be honest. Hay have a tenuous legit maimacy, and they dont want to be too bold. They dont want to lead, because they dont know whether anyone is following. It is not like they won the election. And you know we we vhave been wondering if islam has been perverted by these guys. And there is a phrenfrench hostage of isis told cmn in the ten months that he was held captive, there was no koran, and so what twisted version are they practicing . They are thugs. They are local thugs trying to dominate a region. It is familiar in a sense that when you closer to the organizations, what you will discover, it is not about religion but power. H this is disaffected young men, and some of whom may feel they are getting a raw deal by the government of baghdad or the government in damascus or syria, and then they latch on to the ideology of discontent, and the ideology of discontent oin the arab world is this islamic radicalism and without knowing too much about it they know about burning the body without knowing this is profoundly nonislamic, and not much about islam, and they know too much not taught and it is not religious scholars or particularly devout even. And if there is no evidence of marleyparticularly devout, then why follow them . Because in the arab world, there are some reregimes that are corrupt or dictatorial, and illegitimate illegitimate and they come around and say, we have a pure version of the rule that is better or what and so there is a lot of discontent in the arab world, and they feed off of it, and there is a huge unemployment, and a lot of the as you say, a huge youth bulge, and 65 of the population is under 28 or Something Like that, and so these young men have nothing to do and they are told by these young guys that trust me, islam is the answer. When i grew up in India Marxist revolution was the answer. And anybody who wanted to be the revolutionist, follow mao, and now it is follow their version of the islam. I thought that what i thought was something simple of something to do, and many times, it is just something to do. The more that people analyze the groups, they find it is young men with nothing to do and deep sense of frustration, and alienation, and this gives them some sense of great power, and some sense of doing something important, and meaningful. And do you have to put the boots on the ground, u. S. . I think that is what isis wants. Why do you think they are doing to the videos . They want to draw us in. And 7yearold viewing this from isis. We will talk about that. And is all of this propaganda war, and are they winning . Also what happened moments before this speck tack the lar crash . Look at this. Was the plane doomed from the start . What is behind the deadly crash on this commuter train . Our experts are going to weigh in on that. Sunday dinners at my house. Its a full day for me, and i love it. But when i started having back pain my sister had to come help. I dont like asking for help. I took tylenol but i had to take six pills to get through the day. 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By releasing video of the barbaric execution of the jordanian pilot, isis has upped the ante on the war of Coalition Nations seeking to e dedestroy it. And propaganda da is a toolthat isis is using, but there may p a downside to it. Dan simon has the report. Reporter it is maybe one of the most gruesome act of terror caught on tape. And now imagine that shown on giant screens. A little boy smiling and joyful as he is seen the images of the burning pilot. I would have burned him with my own hands he tells an isis interviewer, and like hitler and the nazis or the soviets and the tanks or the north korean tanks, isis is master inging the art of propaganda, and the goal of which is to unify supporters and the goal of rerecruitment. This video, does it meet the very definition of propaganda . This sis the most heinous form of war propaganda as we have seen in a long time. As the the president called it medieval in approach. Reporter but there sis a danger of unleashing this brutal propaganda beheadings and now a burning that isis may not understand. It can serve as a Unifying Force for isis en hmys. I dont believe that their campaign has been effective in the long run, and the whole world hates them and they are going to be destroyed in the end. But on a short term basis when you are look porging for the bodies, they are looking for offering excitement for young people and darth vader of the offer the dark mask and join a gang reporter they have slick hollywood effects and slick contrast of the Osama Bin Laden effects. They may hate the west but they are using twitter and other social media to spread its message. You can get a iphone and put out a snuff film and this is different, because the idea to use butchery to reinforce the morale of the troops and put the fear of the enemy is as old as time. We used to use the old uncle sam posters, but uncle sam pointing a a finger with a beard is not the same as putting somebody in a cage and burning them is not the same thing. And some say that the acts of barbarism like we saw on the street streets in syria is not likely to stop. And so joining us we will ask, what is isis going to do next . Isnt that what they want us to be thinking right now . Well, they are do going to be doing it for a couple of things. They are using violence to control the population. They are not structured well to govern, don, so the way they control the villages is by sheer violence, so that is why they went through and cut off hands, and summarily cut off heads and Everything Else and so it is to show the world that they are extremely violent and do anything they immediate to do and hoping that the fear portion gets concessions for them. We hear so much from the president about destroying and degrading, and we know that the u. S. And allies have dropped more than 2,000 bombs on isis, and has the momentum been halted. If you look at it in iraq 1,242, and in syria about 2,462 air strikes on isis, and are they being degraded . Well i have always worried when the white house tries to testimony per them in sheer numb numbers that 1,000 bombs equal the fact that we are really doing something. The proof is not just if they have stopped the momentum, and if you listen to language what that tells me is that we are not winning this thing. And so that is as a recruiting tool for isis. They have dropped a lot of ordnance over the last few months but the real measure of it is do they have command and control . Do they have logistical control to operate in syria and iraq . And unfortunately the answer is yes and yes. They are using the videos, and it is a huge recruiting tool, and we see the acts of barbarism, and it just takes your breath away but they say, we are beating the western powers and the king doms of saudi saudi arabia, and uae, and jordan and that is where i want to be and be a part of that, and that is what i want to be. That is what i want to say, because the small boy that we saw in dan simons story saying that he would want to burn the pilot in that video, is that common bob some. Well, again bob . Well, you know it is very common. What we are, don, we have to Pay Attention to is that these people are believers, and they are willing to give up their live s lives in this war, and they look at the world as us then. And these little children that you see, they are goading and go going along with this, they are agreeing to become suicide bombers, and i can say, in fact that the Islamic State would not mind some offensive this summer led by the west and they can say, look we told you that the west is out to destroy us. I agree with mike, it is an enemy that is going to be out for a long time. It is a virus that is going to be very difficult to kill, because it is going to be popping up in different parts of the world, and they are almost begging for the United States to put Ground Troops so they can have a real enemy to fight, and get more e recruits. And bob, they have used and made extraordinary use of technology with the cameras, and some editing gear, and the internet and terrorizing the world, and why cant we shut them down . You cant shut them down, because they are sophisticated and using the mobile wifi, and they will stop in the desert and take a shot at a satellite, upload their images, and that is the way they communicate, and they will be up for 40 minutes, and that i have found holes in the National Security agency in the cypress command defenses and they have been raegd snowden, and they know what they have been doing, and we cant close them down in the cyber warfare. And something that resonated you talked about the psychology of the cyber warfare, and you said that these guys were psychotic, and what can you tell us about the minds of the isis fighter . Well they are looking at this as a clash of civilizations. I spent a lot of time in israeli prisons, talking the the suicide bombers, and they look at it that we we have to kill the israeli children and women to produce more prizsoldiers and we have to exterminate them all, and it is fascist, and thaey dont care. And we are from the air, but at the end of the day, they are producing martyrs, and they are going to be simply recruiting more. So it is more than simple propaganda, because they are convincing people that it is worth fighting in this fight, and that is why it is so difficult to destroy this movement. And the question mike are they as powerful as they think . How many men does isis have and how much territory do they really control . Well, they have still thinking that the territory is about the size of indiana, and maybe less now, and remember they are still robust fighting around mosul, and that has not been done, and coe kobani has stopped the advance, and this is important to listen when the president says it or the folks providing the messaging for the president , they have stopped the advance o

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