You have seen his numbers jump up. But i dont think it was a game changer. I dont think well see a major shift in the polls. I dont think that carson had a good night. He has been in a free fall. Were going to see trump stay on top and cruz going to stay on top or at least be a close second if not on top in iowa. Not enough to affect bush in either way . By far it was his best performance. But honestly, thats not saying much. He had really poor performances in the first four. He was good last night. He took on trump. Trump had a good comeback with basically saying scoreboard im up 423 on you. Bush said it doesnt matter but it does matter of course. Bush had a good night but you wonder if it is too late for bush. Donors are getting nervous. He has to do very well in new hampshire. He is not doing well in new hampshire. Were going into the holidays. Its hard to make another move. But a good night for bush. You just wonder, can he make this huge political comeback . He has a long way to go. The sharpest clashes on policy came between ted cruz and marco rubio. Who do you think won the day if either of them . I think it was very rubio clearly sees cruz as a threat. He knows hes vulnerable on immigration. Rubio was talking about an amendment that cruz sponsored during the Immigration Reform deliberations. Its very much inside baseball. But i think as far as connecting against cruz, i dont think rubio put that much damage on him last night. I think cruz is going to have to answer some questions about why he sponsored this amendment and thats why rubio went after him. Thats why i think christie did well. Christie took advantage of the moments and the thing he does i want to speak to the american people, this is what they do. That resonates. People dont Like Congress speak. They dont Like Congress and dont like when they are talking about subcommittees and amendments and markups. That is inside baseball stuff and Chris Christie is a plainspoken person. Thats what voters want. They want clarity. Christie will have to do very well in new hampshire. How does he do after that, how does he play in the south. The Nuclear Triad moment. And rubio says we have to explain what the triad is, will that hurt trump at all . Do you think it mattered . It wasnt his best moment in the debates. I dont think its going to hurt him. Long term, i think its smart for rubio to capitalize on those moments. Rubio has been a very consistent debater. He has been at least good to very, very good in every debate. So he is quick on his feet, unlike jeb bush. In these settings and debates you have to be quick on your feet. It was smart for rubio to jump in. Looking at the field from last night, finalists becoming obvious to you . I think so. I think you really have to look at the top three right now. And thats trump, that is cruz, and that is rubio. And the establishment is getting nervous. The gop dont like trump, they dont like cruz. I think you will see more endorsements from establishment types of people, members of congress and others that dont want trump or cruz and get behind rubio. But rubio is not winning any states. Hes going to have to make a comeback in new hampshire. Way behind trump in new p but hampshire. He has to win one of these early states and make a move very soon. I want to bring in now two people who know american politics inside and out. Joining me is Paul Bernstein and kerri kennedy. You come from a political dynasty and support Hillary Clinton. This is the debate to talk about Foreign Policy and National Security that you are supposed to look like the commanderinchief. Did anyone seem like the commanderinchief . Not to me. This was a debate about how much you hate and it was a debate about fear. And it was really appealing to the worst of the worst in americans. I come from a political family. I know that the easiest way to get votes is to appeal to peoples anger and hatred and fear. Thats what we saw last night. Last nights debate was dark and angry and about fear. Is that an indication of where the electorate is right now . First thing, it was bellicose and irresponsible statements about general security. If you talk to generals and National Security experts, they will tell you, what were saying, bomb, bomb, punch them in the nose to putin was one of the things that was said. This is not responsible Foreign Policy. So what is it about . Its about a fight for the soul of the Republican Party, which has moved somewhere, where 40 of the people who identify themselves as republicans now are supporting a crypto fascist candidate for the United States and he is driving the debate. He is driving the debate. And has been from the beginning. Im sure he would not like crypto fascist. Its an authoritarian movement and demagoguery. Who stood out to you, best on Foreign Policy or capturing what the electorate wants to talk about. Trump is consistently stood out by capturing those people who are angry, as kerry says, they are white and working class and losing jobs and in terms of the Republican Party, christie had a very good night in terms of being, perhaps, a center right alternative, as jeb bush falters, i think he might do well in new hampshire. Hes just as bellicose as the rest of them. Punch them in the nose, kick them in the ass, the whole thing. But hes going to get the support of Rupert Murdoch i suspect. He identifies himself as an outsider. Keep our eye on him. Jeb bush is not resounding in this party, this new Republican Party. Its not the george bush senior or junior party and hes out of it. Youre lucky its after 11 00 p. M. Eastern. My mom would say watch your language, young man. Im just joking. That word has been said many times on this show. You heard about you heard them say carpet bombing, encrypting data, closing down the internet. Were you concerned about any of that . Some people say it impedes on the rights of americans if you are thinking of doing this and others say we need to do this in this terrorism age thats just a reality right now. You know, what we heard last night again and again was violations of basic liberties which is really against what certain parts of the Republican Party stand for. And we also heard an awful lot of blaming the other, blaming the immigrants, blaming muslims, et cetera. That is a real problem. You work in international circles. As you watch this what were you thinking about . I kept thinking about what van jones said which was the biggest recruitment tool for isis is donald trump. But you know, as somebody who works in international circles, its really very, very dangerous and bad for the United States to have the Republican Party keep saying all these things. You know, the u. S. Was at our very lowest point internationally when george bush invaded iraq and when abu ghraib came out, all those photographs. Thats what they are advocating. Hillary clinton responded to the rhetoric today at a town hall. When you think about, you know, mr. Trump and his outrageous comments and the comments of some of the other candidates, thats not only shameful, saying no muslims can come to america and all the other things that they are talking about, thats dangerous. It plays right into the hands of isis. So to your point where you said donald trump is capturing what the electorate is thinking. That part of the republican electorate. Is Hillary Clinton on the right or wrong side of the American Public when she says things like that . Its nuanced. We have to hear what she has to say about terrorism. Terrorism is real. The threat is real. The democrats, i hope, and presume are going to recognize the threat and there has to be a balance between Civil Liberties and this new threat. We are unprepared in terms of cyberwarfare through the clinton administration, the Bush Administration and the obama administration, we have been awful about cybersecurity and preparing for this. We need a real strategy against islamic terror. Theres nothing wrong with calling it islamic terror. But we dont have that comprehensive strategy. That doesnt mean its just about its nothing to do with islamic terror. Thats just not thats not right. The origins are certainly coming from an interpretation of islamism. Then, where more people have been killed by White Christian men in this country since 2001 than by anybody, any terrorist from other countries or from other religions. Do you call them christian terrorists . There is an islamic selfidentified Islamic Movement bied by a certain people to annihilate those who dont agree with them. I dont think its wrong to call it islamic terrorism. Does it represent all of islam . No. It is a problem because it is mixing up anyone who is a muslim into that. So what are you going to do now . Malala is not allowed into the United States because that has nothing to do. Malala has nothing to do with islamic terrorism in the name of islam as isis pretends it represents. Malala is islamic and a human rights activist and muslim. You have all kinds of things going on within islam. And part of what is going on is this horrible, horrible movement which is my listic in nature. We are going to talk about this in the next block. But kerry, i want to mention your organization, the robert f. Kennedy human rights. Thats right. And come on and meet anderson cooper. Hes on the auction block. Thats a little scary. And you have been there. You were there last summer and my mother is going to give you a tour of the compound. Its going to be fun. Thank you kerry and mr. Bernstein. When we come back, a lot of talk about muslims and islam. But what is the reaction in the Muslim Community . Were going to talk about that next. Did you say 97 . Yes. You know, that reminds me of geicos 97 Customer Satisfaction rating. 97 . Helped by geicos fast and friendly claims service. Huh. Oh yeah, baby. Geicos as fast and friendly as it gets. Woo geico. Expect great savings and a whole lot more. vo some call it giving back. We call it share the love. During our share the love event, get a new subaru, and well donate 250 to those in need. Bringing our total donations to over sixtyfive million dollars. And bringing love where its needed most. Love. Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. Were going to go in depth about the muslims that was a topic of the conversation last night. Joining me is rula jabril. And a correspondent for vice on hbo. Rula, last nights conversation centered on terrorism. What is the tone . I think baghdadi was celebrating. He was very happy. Basically they were saying we are at war with islam and they treated all muslims as a potential threat and killing the relatives of terrorists, you know, were not sure they deserve Constitutional Rights or not. Not all of them were. Im talking about the overwhelming majority. What trump is doing, the antimuslim remarks are being considered as normal or as a policy. They are forcing the other g. O. P. Candidates to respond on these, you know, the remarks, banning all muslims and gop are look at this as maybe we can think about it. As i watched the other gop members they are saying they dont like Donald Trumps plan. He seems to be the only one on board with banning muslims at least temporarily. Look, when you call refugees rabid dogs and muslims all kind of names. And then you say we want only christians. We dont want muslims because there is something wrong with muslims you are criminalizing an entire group of people. You are marginalizing them. And you know, you are feeding to this warmonger and fear and prejudice that plays into the hands of isis. Ahmed what was your reaction to the debate . It was based on fear mongering and hate speech and the manipulation of the Public Perception of fear. It should not come as a surprise that many muslims would react in fear. Santorum was saying that islam is not a normal religion and should not have the same constitutional protections as other religions. Huckabee wants surveillance of mosques and carson saying that supermarkets should be surveilled. It was disturbing to see what was going on the stage. No real discussion of policy and nuance. Carson, a neurosurgeon, a man who has pledged and taken an oath to protect and save innocent lives couldnt of proud and boasting about the fact that he is tough enough to look over the fact that hundreds of thousands of children might die with this carpet bombing and saturation bombing and bizarre terms. Just the terminology if you look at the fact that i think 81 times the war terror or terrorist or terrorism was used. The word attack was used 50 times. If this was a debate about how to keep america safe, if this was a debate about how to protect america with all due respect the debate the word guns was not mentioned once. It wasnt about domestic security but about National Security. And this is legitimate. The fear is go ahead. Does it keep us safe to discuss these things and the terms being discussed . How do we talk about terrorism without saying terror . But don why dont we talk about all the other things that dont keep us safe in america . When we talk about terrorism, lets be smart about it. Jeb bush was the only candidate that said something that none of the candidates were doing which is lets think first and be smart. That wasnt apparent to me yesterday. Here is some of last night. I would be very, very firm with families and frankly, that will make people think. Because they may not care very much about their lives but they do care, believe or not, about their familys lives. Islam is different. I know this is going to come as a shock to a lot of people. Islam is a political governing structure. If islam is as wonderful and peaceful as adherents say should they be begging us to come listen to the sermons and bring the fbi so we all want to convert to islam . This is horrifying. The piece that we didnt hear is when i think that cruz was nostalgic for arab dictators. Because some of them are condemning trump we think they are moderate or even he is trump is expanding the far right, whoever is condemning trump is moderate. But what you are hearing is a criminalization of an entire group of people, something we heard elsewhere in europe before world war ii and its just something that would never have been acceptable in our society. Ted cruz now, listen. Well, im reminded of what fdrs grandfather said. He said all horse thieves are democrats. But not all democrats are horse thieves. In this instance, there are millions of peaceful muslims across the world in countries like india where there is not the problems we are seeing in nations that are controlled, have territory controlled by al qaeda or isis. And we should direct at the problem, focus on the problem and defeat radical islamic terrorism. Its not a war on a faith. Its a war on a political and theocratic ideology that seeks to murder us. He is talking about democrats, he did make that distinction between terrorists and muslims. Do you welcome that sort of statement . He is trying to make a distinction between terrorism and islam. With all due respect to senator cruz, its very disturbing because hes not just factually incorrect. There have been several terrorist attacks in restaurant history in india. But to say all muslims to say all terrorists are muslims even while conceding that not all muslims are terrorists is very unproductive and offensive. Thats not what he said. He didnt say that. He said that all democrats are horse traders. But he is saying that we should but also but he also previously said that about muslims. Even beyond that, don, if you look at the discourse and the way it has been accepted to the point we had a twohour debate that perhaps we should be talking about these issues but we should be talking about them in the context of the other issues that threaten us. If you look at the shooting at San Bernardino. Guns was mentioned zero times. Now we found out from intelligence and government authorities that the shooters behind San Bernardino were not posting on social media and not part of isis. There is just such a level of perception that is distorted and it can be so openly discussed. I found it to be really troubling. And quite frankly at the end there was a comment from cruz about Syrian Refugees how up until 2013 we had never experienced this kind of refugee crisis and it took us by storm. And he was he used to believe that refugees are were accustomed to believe that they are escaping or fleeing from oppression. But where are those Syrian Refugees escaping from if not oppression. The muslims are fighting and dying. If you alienate the same i have to tell you we did concern this is an unscientific survey. Did donald trump do a good job defending his position . 63 of those polled last night said he did do a good job. 37 said no. When we asked should we accept Syrian Refugees, 31 said yes and 69 said no. There is a pathology that is happening in this country that is really cascary. 18 Million People heard what the candidates had to say tonight. Did any of them pass the commanderinchief test . I sold my bike on wallapop, yes i did. announcer download wallapop. Take a pic, list it. Sell the stuff you just dont use to someone close by. Make some extra cash and find great deals. 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