Joe. We are hearing about turmoil in the Transition Team behind the scenes. What is the latest . Reporter theres been a lot of it. I have to say one week after an election, especially after a tumultuous election like this, quite frankly, don, it is not all that surprising. We have seen it before. A number of things happened today, probably the headline on all of it is that the second high profile republican establishment figure, mike rogers, the former House Intelligence Committee chairman, is now out. He was seen as reassuring figure to many republicans, especially on issues of National Security, and was thought as on the short list for cia director. Hes gone. Of course, he was hired by Chris Christie, who as well was demoted. So the question is why, what is going on with the transition. The story they certainly want to put out is this is all about a blending of the Campaign Staff that traveled around the country with donald trump and the transition staff that was put in place to figure out what was going to happen in the event he won, but there is also a question as to whether all of this is part of a purge in the continuing fight, the back biting between the establishment figures who work with donald trump and the nontraditional figures, the insiders and the outsiders. Of course, they say, no, it is not a purge. Coming in the middle of all of this today, the Vice President elect mike pence to try to calm the waters. Reports, of course, that the only purge that he wanted to preside over was getting rid of the lobbyists, which essentially would be a Campaign Promise for donald trump, don. Joe, multiple sources are telling cnn that Jared Kushner, Donald Trumps soninlaw, at the center of all of the in fighting. What can you tell us . Yeah, he is reported to be at the center of all of the infighting. Hes also a close associate certainly of donald trump. Hes been called his fixer among other things. Hes been called his righthand man. As we all know, fixers dont always get props for being polite. But there are issues with kushner that have to be examined and probably chief among them is the fact that he has a history with Chris Christie. In fact, his father, charles kushner, was prosecuted by Chris Christie in 2004 and eventually ended up pleading guilty. So a question of bad blood there, certainly the Campaign Says no, it is not that at all. Theyre just trying to get their ducks in a row. Still, the suggestion is here at trump tower that the transition has stalled just a bit. They say it is only a matter of time before they get moving. Joe johns, much appreciate it. Want to bring in mark preston, cnn politics executive editor and william cohen, author of the price of silence. Mark you first, i want to ask about Donald TrumpsTransition Team. Chris christie out friday, mike rogers out tonight. What are you hearing . A couple of things. Theres talk of infighting right now, which is expected during transition. We have Power Centers to be aware of. One is you have steve bannon, somebody considered the general behind Donald Trumps basically reviving his campaign and going on to win it. You have reince priebus, put in as chief of staff, somebody who is wellregarded on capitol hill, has the ears and support of the Republican Leadership up there. As you were talking with joe, you have Jared Kushner right now who is, you know, somebody who is very well respected by donald trump and somebody who he leans on. Now, add to the mix right now mike pence, somebody who knows washington very well, and you will get a little bit of friction, don, when you have all of these folks coming together. Now, we are told by a highranking person within the Trump Campaign that a lot of this is being miss character iced and the fact is that they are getting along and they are very organized and this is what you would expect during a transition. Well, the highest person in the campaign is donald trump, and he is tweeting this out tonight. He said about the transition, very organized process taking place, as i decide on cabinet and many other positions. Im the only one who knows who the finalists are here. Hes denying there is conflict and that Jared Kushner his soninlaw is behind it. Right, a couple of things. Not too surprising donald trump would do that, and there is truth in what he said because with donald trump were always, always wondering what his next move is going to be. So his final decision is going to be where he decides to put people in the cabinet. Again, he probably is the only person who knows it. Now, there are those in the inner circle helping to make the decisions, but it will be up to donald trump. I have to ask you this because it is new reporting just in to cnn mark, and it is a source with knowledge that says Jared Kushner could end up with a Top National Security clearance as a key adviser to his fatherinlaw, which is expected for him. The sources said that likely that it is likely, but has not happened yet. What do you make of that . Right. So a source of harper and right now for the Trump Campaign, it is a story that has developed over the past day or so. What we are told is there was a transition worker who actually inquired about this, was not authorized to do so. Inquired about the top security clearance, but was not required to do so. Donald trump did not ask them to do so. Now, the reporting were seeing from gloria borg and jim acosta is Jared Kushner who is married to ivanka trump could perhaps get top security clearance. We will see what happens in the ensuing weeks and months. But once donald trump is president , fairly certain, don, he can decide who gets it and who doesnt get it. What do you make of this, william . Also of course we know he has asked for security clearance for his three children and, you know, Jared Kushner is, of course, married to ivanka. Ivanka and don jr. And eric are supposedly going to be running his business. Theyre also going to get National Security clearance, top secret security clearance at the same time theyre running his business . That is troublesome. What about potential conflicts of interest because his children are supposed to be running his businesses, and if they have that information isnt it a conflict of interest . I would think so. I mean donald trump has business interests all around the world and hes going to have information about his about countries all over the world, and his children are now going to have access to that at the same time theyre running his business. That is a clear potential conflict of interest. When you hear about people like Rudy Giuliani who, you know, by many accounts has not exhibited the best behavior over the past couple of months, being considered. So listen, he had a great legacy with 9 11, but if you speak to anyone they say theres a different Rudy Giuliani now, and the Rudy Giuliani were seeing is not the one who, you know, post 9 11. Right. So then are you concerned . What do you make of that . Well, for Rudy Giuliani to be seriously considered as secretary of state, which is the striel balloon thats being floated i mean if he were to be seriously considered for attorney general, i could understand that. He was u. S. Attorney in the Southern District of new york, mayor of new york, a prosecutor by nature, a prosecutor by interest, and, you know, by temperament. But secretary of state . A diplomat . I dont find Rudy Giuliani particularly diplomatic or knowledgeable about world affairs. I think it would be a big mistake. Mark, what are the rules for a president when it comes to potential conflicts when were talking about the business interests and getting Top National Security clearance for his children who potentially will be running his business . Dons, the rules are there are no rules for the president or Vice President. Let me read you a little bit about kind of where we stand right now and what is required of the president. The u. S. Conflict of interest statute prohibits officials of the executive branch from Holding Assets that would conflict with their official duties except congress is exempted the president and Vice President from those rules, as well as the president and Vice President are exempt from earning income from their businesses as they hold office. They are exempt, again, from what other federal officials are required to abide by. Now, having said that, donald trump says his children are going to run the businesses. Well see what exactly happens, but of course theres going to be an incredible amount of scrutiny over any decision that donald trump makes and how it could affect his businesses. How do you square that, william . Because wasnt that something that they really railed against Hillary Clinton for, potential conflicts of interest with the Clinton Foundation . Look, mark is absolutely right. Donald trump as president of the United States does not have to put his assets into a blind trust and for it to be a real blind trust anyway he would have to sell everything, turn it into cash and hire an independent trustee to manage that cash. If he keeps it as businesses and his Hotel Properties and real estate properties, which of course he would, then theres no such thing as a blind trust because, first of all, it is not required and we know that donald likes to do things up to the letter of the law. You know, if theres no raw requiring it, he wont do it. He didnt have to release his tax returns and he didnt release them and everybody ended up being okay with that i guess. And hes not going to put these his business into a blind truts. He said hes doing what he said he was going to do. In the middle of the campaign he said his children were going to run the business, and thats exactly what seems to be happen. Even the space for the new International Hotel in d. C. Which trump and his family opened is leased to trump from the federal government, he is leasing space from the federal government which he will now lead. How is this going to be untangled . Well, it is not going to be untangled. The fact is hes the leasy and the leaser in many ways because hes the one that appoints, you know, the head of the organization, the department that oversees it. Now, having said that, i mean, look, theres a lease in place. Im not really quite sure what he could do or what he would do as president that would give favorable terms to the lease. I mean is he going to ask for the lease to be broken . Is he going to try to sue the leaser, which is basically suing himself . It is untangled, but i would say this. For all of our discussion about donald trump and the tanglement of his businesses, there will be so much scrutiny on donald trump as president and what he does with his businesses, hes not going to be able to make a move without us knowing what he does. William, go ahead. And he said on 60 minutes, you know, hes done worrying about his business. He has bigger things to worry about now and, you know, lets take him at his word at the moment. Also on 60 minutes ivanka trump came under fire after she wore a gold bracelet during the familys 60 minutes interview, her Fashion Company sent out an email showing her wearing the 10,000 bracelet and asked recipients to share it with their clients, apparently trying to profit on the appearance. It is simple but a poignant example. Of poor judgment. She shouldnt have done that. Whether she knew it was being done by her person or not, she should not have done it. Do you think they care . I dont think they care. She did it during the campaign. Main maybe it was one thing. Now her president is p president elect of the United States, she should not be doing that. Up next, a spike in hate crime since Donald Trumps election. I will talk to a u. S. 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Build the wall, a trump phrase chanted by middle schoolers in michigan, taunting latino students during lunch group. The Advocacy Group has researched and solicited claims of harassment nationwide since the election. 437 incidents so far, an apparent sharp increase. 140 on november 9th alone, the day after the election. Suns then reports have decreased significantly. Say it right to the camera, stop it. Reporter the president elect himself made a plea for calm in his First Television enter ju. Im going to bring this country together. Reporter the images run the gamut. Scratched on the doors at a school dorm, trump national, whites only on a church in maryland. This on a church in a small town in indiana. Celebrity supporter trolled on twitter this image of auschwitz with trumps name added, the message, this is in all of your ilks future. You will be seeing a train shortly. Hollywood days of subjugation is over, seig heil. And in dallas africanamerican veteran Ernest Walker denld a free meal at chilis on veterans day after a man wearing a trump shirt questioned whether he truly served, allegedly he served in germany and they didnt let blacks serve there. The manager took the Trump Supporters side. Oh, no, now you grabbing my food away from me . Youre taking my food away from me now. Taking away walkers meal even after he showed his military credentials for him and his service dog. Chilis issued a lengthy apology to mr. Walker, thanked him for his service and saying the chilis manager was removed. The Antidefamation League that tracks antisemitism in new york says there have been five incidents of antisemitism. They say these acts are meant to breed fear and fuel an zie i the. Non miguel, thank you very much. Joining me is Ernest Walker and his attorney kim t. Cole. Thank you for joining me. Mr. Walker, to you first. First of all, thank you so much for your service. Thank you. I appreciate it. We just heard a little bit about what happened to you at chilis on veterans day. Explain your interaction with a trump supporter there. Well, first of all, he really made me feel like i was almost like a slave who had to show paperwork to show my freedom. You know, i do believe that i was singled out as a black man in that restaurant, and if it were not for the past temperature of the nation of this election, you know, i dont think he would be as em boldened to approach me in the manner he did and just outright label me as a black man trying to steal food. Had anything like that ever happened to you before this election . No, no, no. I mean ive had, you know, racism, but just to be as bold as he was, he felt like he had the right to do this to me, and the manager participated in that. Yeah. And that was thats the concern, that somehow this election has emboldened or given bigotry a platform and normalized it. I know you started filming on your cellphone. Lets watch and then well discuss. Now you question my military service and you question my service dog. If you didnt see it the food today, sir. Now youre grabbing my food away from me . Youre taking my food away from me now. Im so sorry. You didnt provide documents for m