Stream live tv anywhere datafree. Join directv today starting at 35 month. No extra monthly fees. And thats it for us. Thanks for watching. Cnn tonight with don lemon starts now. Breaking news, stunning details from the classified Intelligence Report delivered to president barack obama today. This is cnn tonight, im don lemon. Sources tell cnn american spy agencies know who handed over stolen democratic emails to wikileaks and intercepted communications capture top russian officials celebrating Donald Trumps election victory. All this coming just hours before intelligence chiefs are due to sit down with trump behind closed doors to brief him on russias actions. Meanwhile, sources say president elect donald trump will ask congress, not mexico, to pay for his promised border wall. And capitol hill republicans promising to take action this year to repeal obamacare despite the lack of any replacement plan. House Speaker Paul Ryan also promising today to defund planned parenthood. What will that mean for the health of american women . Theres a whole lot going on. Lets get right to gloria borger. Shes our chief political analyst. Dave rhode. And pamela anderson. This is part of Donald TrumpsCampaign Speech we can all remember. Listen to this. We are going to have a strong border. We are going to build the wall. It will be a real wall, a real wall. Who is going to pay for the wall . [ crowd responds mexico ] who . Mexico. By the way, 100 . There is some breaking news tonight on this topic. What exactly is going on . Manu raju and Deirdre Walsh our reporters on capitol hill have reported that the president elects Transition Team is signaling to republicans in congress that they actually want to start fund iing the wal through the appropriations process. Not the appropriations process in mexico, but the one here. Which means taxpayers. Right. Which means taxpayers. Now the Transition Team will say that donald trump has always promised that mexico would reimburse us for the wall which implies we would pay for it first. But the question is, how would they get that passed . How many billions of dollars would that cost . And would the democrats shut down the government over this because they didnt want to fund this appropriation . Did they say that . So there are lots of questions that need to be answered. There was that nuance about paying back but initially he said mexico i will make pay for the wall. He did. And as he went through the campaign, he did we looked it up. He said at one point that we would pay for the border wall with the understanding that mexico will reimburse us for it. And then he said, mexico will pay. But what will be their motive to reimburse us for a wall we already paid billions of dollars for . Oh, thank you very much. Thats after saying something and coming back to correct it. Which is often the case on twitter. Theyre clearly struggling with a way to figure this out. David. Its one of many examples of how is he actually going to govern . This is arguably his most famous promise and hes already moving around on this. What will happen over time, six months from now, if he reverses on other major issues like this. This is such a signature issue for him. Pamela brown, lets move on. Because you have some other breaking news to tell us about. Fascinating new details about what the Intelligence Report on russian hacking is all about. What can you tell us about that . Thats right, don. Weve learned that the u. S. Intelligence community has identified the gobetween people that the russian government used to leak the documents to wikileaks according to our sources. So the u. S. Has essentially identified those people youll recall this week Julian Assange, the founder of wikileaks, said it wasnt a russian Government Official that handed those documents over but we have learned that the russian government used whats called cutouts so other people to do the dirty work and apparently the u. S. Knows who these people are and that information is in that classified comprehensive report that the president that was presented to the president today. Also, don, in this report is intercepted communications of russian Government Officials celebrating and congratulating one another in some of these communications after donald trump won the election. Were told theres no smoking gun, where someone outright said we did x, y, z for donald trump to win. But its just one piece of the puzzle that intelligence officials used to come up with high confidence that russia was behind the hack and in part wanted to help donald trump win. And also tonight retired general martin dempsey, pamela, the chairman of the joint chiefs, took to twitter and he said, intelligence is hard thankless work. Fortunately, we have dedicated, patriotic and courageous men and women on the job. Thanks. Its an extraordinary comment that is almost certainly aimed at donald trump. How often do generals weigh in in the middle of a political firestorm like this . I wouldnt say its common for sure, don, especially for someone like dempsey, who has been very adamant up until now to stay apolitical, to stay out of the fray. But as you see there, it seems as though hes sort of breaking for that from that and sending this implicit message to donald trump, who has been casting doubt on the Intelligence Communitys assessment. So youre seeing this outward tone from former officials, also current officials. We heard dni chief James Clapper today also sending a strong message saying theres a difference between skepticism and disparagement. And he said its a big concern, don. Yeah, david, all of this rancor over intelligence puts military leaders in a tough spot. Do you think that he felt, specifically on this one, general dempsey, that retired general dempsey, that he had to come out and defend the Intelligence Community . Yeah, i think theres a real sense in the Intelligence Community in the military, you know, weve been at war for 15 years so, this idea of disparaging them is really deeply disturbing. Ive talked to four former cia officials just tonight. They say people are apoplectic about the way hes treating the Intelligence Community. Morale is down. There arent sort of resignations yet. So most importantly, this is very dangerous for donald trump politically. There was a story last night in the wall street journal he was going to revamp the entire intelligence structure. Now today theyre saying theyre not going to do that. If he cuts funding, if he treats them this way and there is a terrorist attack in the United States and theres some kind of intelligence failure, he could be blamed for that. Donald trump could be blamed for that. You know, this is a community that protects the United States. So if youre disparaging them, youre changing the system seemingly on a whim. That can come back to haunt you. Has he backed himself into a corner with this . Well, look. Yes, i think he has. But its okay. Theres nothing wrong with challenging intelligence. The president does it every day when he gets his daily brief. I mean, this is president s are paid to be skeptical and ask questions. But to do it in public . Well, thats exactly right. You dont do it in public to humiliate people. These are public servants, heroes, people who toil in secrecy on behalf of the United States and they dont always get it right but they are important and we depend on them for our National Security. So what the president has done is set up a collision course not only with the Intelligence Community but also with republicans on capitol hill who support the Intelligence Community and who believe that their findings on the russian hack are appropriate. If i were going to brief donald trump tomorrow, i think this is what is in his head. Whats in his head is dont delegitimize my election. Okay . And i think if i were briefing donald trump i would say mr. President elect, we are not delegitimizing your election, we do not you won the election. But we want to tell you about what russias intent was when they put the thumb on the scale of your side. And you have to decouple those things for donald trump because this is something he cares very deeply about. Which is he legitimately won the election. Nobody can challenge that. For him its probably about his ego and about being which is very interesting because seemingly he tried to delegitimize the current president of the United States. But there were lots of things that influenced this election, and you know, the fake news and all the rest might have been a part of it. But donald trump won. And so you have to separate those two things. There are a lot of people who want to use this and say this delegitimizes his presidency. I dont think thats what the Intelligence Community and they have said as much. Exactly. I want to listen to the current president and then ill let you respond, david. My hope is when the president elect receives his own briefings and is able to examine the intelligence as his team has put together and they see how professional and effective these agencies are, that some of those current tensions will be reduced. So donald trump is standing alone in resisting what the Intelligence Community found. Do you think hes going to change his tune after hes briefed tomorrow . He might. I mean, thats a smarter thing to do politically. But its not clear. Its again these confusing signals. Dan coats whoa named today as the directorf national intelligence, a moderate. Hes respected. He worked with democrats when he was in the senate. Theres a lot of controversy around flynn, the National Security adviser. This disparagement of these findings. These accusations that its politicized intelligence, that sort of echoes flynns argument. And more than any other figure in this National Security team, flynn is really worrying people in the Intelligence Community. Thats what ive heard from these four former officials today. David, gloria, pamela, thank you so much. I appreciate it. When we come right back, the former cia director who says he is no longer a top adviser to donald trump. Breaking news tonight. Sources saying that u. S. Spy agencies know who passed stole emails to wikileaks and they have information that russian officials celebrated Donald Trumps election victory. Lets discuss now with michael chertoff, a former secretary of homeland security. P. J. Crowley, former assistant secretary of state and author of red Line AmericanForeign Policy in a time of fractured politics and failing states. And ambassador r. James woolsey, chairman of the foundation for defense of democracies and the former director of central intelligence. Good evening, gentlemen. Thank you for coming on. Ambassador woolsey, i have to go to you first. No longer associated with the trump campaign. What changed . Well, its not that im no longer associated. Its that i was letting people know by a statement i put out today that i am not now working on the transition. And i was simply changing a designation to make sure that nobody thought i was doing something that i wasnt. I worked on the campaign a bit as an adviser. And a little bit at the beginning on transition but i havent been doing anything with the transition. Ive been helping on backgrounding press on issues. And i just thought it was better, sounder and more honest if i took the piece off the table that suggested that i was working on the transition because im really not. I want to play something you said in 2010, in a 2010 interview about Julian Assange. Here it is. Assange and the people who have done this definitely have blood on their hands. If you were someone who was trying to help the United States and our allies in afghanistan learn where the taliban were strong or if you were helping the United States in other parts of the world fight terrorism, you could well be put not just at risk but in serious risk of being killed by the enemies of the United States and freedom around the world. I consider mr. Assange a handmaiden of terror and he definitely has blood on his hands as far as im concerned. So those are pretty strong words. Is donald trump giving credibility to assange, was that a turning point for you . No, not particularly. I mean, i think one can sometimes pull a quote out of what is shade by a really bad person and still find it useful. Ive always been particularly fond of trotskys you may not be interested in war but war may be interested in you. I use that a lot. But i am not showing some allegiance to trotsky by saying it. Thank you for responding to that. P. J. Crowley to you first, youve been on the front lines of National Security issues and political wars in washington. What do you make of the rift that donald trump has created with the Intelligence Community . I think hes painted himself into a corner certainly as we look forward to the confirmation hearings of his National Security team, hes done them no favors. We saw this morning in the thoughtful hearing on capitol hill a very strong sentiment by members of the senate on a bipartisan basis that this is a serious situation, some even called it attack on the United States. Im not sure i would use that terminology necessarily. And so coming up next week with his team on capitol hill, theyre going to have to try to figure out how to get to the middle ground. And senators today basically charted it out for mr. Trump, which is theres a difference between interference, which is clear, and influence which is less clear in terms of what impact russia had on the election. But theres no question, particularly given the report that we now see and also the sentiment of capitol hill, that russia has done something that goes beyond a line and there will need to be consequences. Michael, aside from the hacks, the russians are also spreading fake news. I want you to listen. This is senator tim kaine talking about that today. You know, i had a little role in this election. I was along for the ride for 105 days and was the subject of a couple of fake news stories. And it was interesting. There were at least three that the Mainstream Media didnt cover because they were so incredible that like why would they. But i looked at one of the stories and it had been shared 800,000 times. And when i see an administration who has put in place as the proposed National Security adviser someone who traffics in these fake news stories and retweets them and shares them, who betrays a sense of either gullibility or malice that would kind of be these are stories that most fourthgraders would find incredible. That a National Security adviser would find them believable enough to share them causes me great concern. Secretary chertoff, the russians have always spread disinformation thats different this is now a time of social media and the internet. But how dangerous has fake news become . I think weve seen this in europe over the last couple years. Some of you may remember when that airliner was shot down over the ukraine by forces that were sympathetic to russia, there were russiansponsored media stories that blamed that on the Ukrainian Government in order to create a smoke screen and confusion. Weve seen other instances. There was one in the last couple years where there was an effort to hack into ukrainian media and present false stories about the outcome of an election there. So this has been a problem the europeans have lived with for a long time. Theres a certain element of fake news thats driven by economics. You have these kids in macedonia who are making money by driving clicks to these outrageous stories. But we also have seen for years that as a matter of statecraft and strategy the russians do use social media as well as conventional media to drive a narrative that confuses the west and even winds up drawing sympathy away from the u. S. And toward how much of an influence do you think it had in this election . I dont think what came out in this election was particularly influential. But i think when you look at some of the stories that have appeared in europe and when you look at the elections that are coming up this year i suspect were going to see a much more concerted effort and one that may find more traction and frankly rather than looking back at the election, which i think was legitimate and i dont think it was affected, i think we need to look forward to what is going to come next because i think as they say you aint seen nothing yet. Ambassador woolsey, are you concerned that general flynn, trumps National Security adviser, has trafficked in fake news stories . I didnt know that he had trafficked in fake news stories. Thats news to me. There was the incident of him retweeting fake news stories. His son, who was on his team, also trafficked in fake news stories. I think we may have discussed them, im not sure, with you here. Trafficked in the sense of sending them to a few people you know and saying isnt this weird or giving them credence by putting them on social media, which everyone in the world has access to, and by retweeting them. Well, one of the reasons ive stayed away from social media is lack of technical competence to deal with it. So im not entirely sure what the implications are of this. I just believe that one ought to, if you send something out that is cl