Transcripts For CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon 20170207 : v

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon 20170207

A socalled judge. Amade reports of the house in chaos, while the president today falsely accusing the press of failing to report on terror attacks. They have their reasons for not reporting it, and you understand that. Lots to discuss tonight, pam, i want to start with you, the Justice Department lawyers filed documents in federal court defending the travel ban. The judge in Washington State overstepped his bounds, his halt was vastly overbroad, and the lawyers from doj said the president has wide discretion under the constitution to deal with immigration matters. They argued if the court decided to keep the injunction to the ban, it should be limited to people who have already been in the u. S. With valid visas, not for the people from the 7 countries who are hoping to come to the u. S. For the first time, the lawyers argue they should not be granted constitutional protections, the states on the other hand say the travel ban hurts their citizens, breaking up families and hurting businesses. We have the hearing tomorrow. Will the public be able to listen in on these hearings . They will. Actually, the oral arguments will be live streamed to the public on the 9th circuit website, the 9th circuit is known to be more transparent than other circuits across the country. Circuit courts across the country. So in the broader context this is unusual. And its going to be over the phone because the ninth circuit covers most of the western states and the judges are spread out. Each side gets 340 minutes, we expect a decision on whether the ban will be reinstated during the appeals process, sometime after that, don. To jim acosta now, the white house is following up on their accusations false accusations that the media hasnt covered major terrorist attacks . What are they saying . Earlier today, the president was down in florida and he went after the news media as he often does, he said we are downplaying terrorist attacks for reasons that he didnt explain, he said we have our reasons and he told the audience there, and you know what they are. And i think you understand that, and we asked White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer earlier in the day, well, where is the president getting this from, the white house said, were going to be putting out a list later on in the evening. They did put together a list. 78 terrorist attacks that have occurred since 2014. They believe most of these terrorist attacks did not get enough coverage. Its baffling, they mention the paris attacks, the San Bernardino california attacks. The orlando nightclub attack. Its odd theyre say iing these attacks were not covered enough. We spent days on end reporting about them. They were only able to compile this list because of the news media. If we didnt report on them, they wouldnt have been able to make the list. The only thing that seems to change is the setting where hes delivering the remarks from. I think its Pretty Simple that maybe for some reason they want us talking about this obviously, its sad to say, but a terrorist attack will likely happen in the future. Those things are uncontrollable. Its almost as if they want us talking about this, in case, might happen. This is one of those talking points, all you have to do is spend a few seconds on google, and the talking point doesnt hold up, i mean, we at cnn spent days on end covering many of these terrorist attacks listed in this list that was provided by the white house. We should point out journalists are putting their lives on the line every day in dangerous parts of the world reporting on terrorism and terrorist attacks. It doesnt hold up, it feels like they were going after the news media, before they had their facts straight, and once again, this is a list that includes terrorist attacks that we spent a lot of time covering, to accuse the news media of ignoring terrorist attacks, it doesnt explain why. It feels like you said, perhaps theyre trying to wave that shiny object and get the publics attention away from the things they should be focused on. Lets hope it does not happen. The men and women he spoke to today put their lives on the line for those terrorist attacks and there are journalists in the front lines as well. Pamela brown, do you have a response to this . Im talking about those terrorist attacks jim pointed out. I spent sleepless nights covering those stories, and sent to paris for one of the attacks, the Charlie Hebdo attacks. The broader context the president wants the travel ban reinstated. As he said, these seven countries pose a National Security risk, its made clear it wants to fill in the gaps in the process. This travel ban should be reinstated. All right. Thank you, i appreciate it. I want to bring in now maggie aber man. Lots to discuss. David, lets start, 17th day in office, and hes in a full blown legal battle, the president is, possibly with the Justice Department, and also now more misleading of the American Public regarding terror attacks . Don, its the one attack we really obviously didnt cover well was the Bowling Green massacre. We should have had some reporters out there, Kellyanne Conway should have given us more information about it. It really says basically, that the press is not doing its job, because it has its own political agenda, it doesnt want you to know the truth about how dangerous terrorism is. Its pulling a leftist agenda on you, which is clearly not true, and he engages in these falsehoods without producing any serious evidence, we get a list that includes San Bernardino. Its astonishing, and its beneath the dignity of the presidency and it really tears at the fabric of what holds us together as a people, when we cant trust each other, we cant trust the white house, hes telling you cant trust the press. This is the way democracies become unraveled. Including the pulse night club, the nice attacks. There are attacks that happened in other countries that Cnn International will kwover that may not be covered on a u. S. Domestic level, and i think cnn is one of the only u. S. Networks that will cover that where you can get that, you wont get that from other networks, if theres an attack that happens in another part of the world, if you are tuning in, mr. President to Cnn International, you will get those stories as well. We dont just cover stories that happen here in the United States. Don, i think what also happened here, you had a president who spoke and then you had a white house staff that had to be the shovel brigade and had to say this is what the president that happens every day, it seems, gloria. Yes, we have to prove the president s premise, which is that the press doesnt cover terror attacks. Which is ridiculous on its face. And so what they came out with was a list of terror attacks and youve gone over chapter and verse, and i think it belittles the office he holds, it belittles the people who work for limb to put out this hastily compiled list, full of misspellings. It was meant to be4ri8 us, but in a way, i dont think it does. Because i think were just doing our job. And we have been doing our job. As i watched him speak to the men and women in uniform, it was a sigh of here we go again. Maggie, youve been covering a lot of this. Whats going on here . I think glorias right, were never going to know whether the president was intending to say this today or not. But weve seen this lather, rinse, repeat as well. Sean spicer shifted with what the president said into dont cover enough. They dont get enough attention. The president explicitly said, they dont cover it, and they had their reasoning, he never said that, sean spicer said, they go undercover, we dont report on them enough. Thats not what the president said. He also had an insinuation that was vague enough, people could read in what they wanted, the reporters, media have some kind of agenda behind this. I have been covering the news for 20 years, i was down at ground zero for literally years after the attacks, we have covered terrorist attacks. I think we get criticized for covering them too much. I think it serves the president s purpose, which is generally speaking, youve seen him creating a climate not creating, but hes pointing to a climate of fear. Hes largely governing on the idea that if people can be afraid, i can fix it, i will make it better. It worked for him during the campaign, its certainly never going to get him to a majority of support, it might get him enough for his base to stay where he is. Weve been saying that a lot. Doesnt it get old . Dont you think people tire of that and they will just say, mr. President , please, just be the president and do your job and stop pointing to the media for everything youve done wrong or misstatements that youve made . Stop pointing to the media, its not the medias fault every day. At a certain point in a presidency. The sky is falling its way too early. It is. People start judging results, and i think if President Trump can create the jobs, he says hes going to create if hes going to Fix Health Care the way he says hes going to Fix Health Care, if hes going to fix infrastructure, give everyone a tax cut the way he says he will, and on and on and on, build the wall, people will judge him by his promises. And i think thats the way president s ought to be judged. I dont think they ought to be judged by sort of who hates me, the press hates me. I havent met a president or covered a president who loves the media, they all believe theyre picked on unfairly by the media. That goes with the territory. This defensive crouch that the president is in right now, doesnt serve him well. Its old. Maggie, stand by, david, maggie, youve been reporting on the problems at the trump white house, i read an interesting story that happened to be mentioned in. What is going on behind the scenes, they realized the first two weeks, no matter what they put out there, the press people, the communications folks, it didnt go so well. You have a president that came into office with a mandate to shake things up. They are essentially building the plane on takeoff, hes doing much of what he said he would do, not all of what he said he would do. That is what his goal is and you make a mess hes coming in with people in government before. Theres his own personal adaptation to the white house. Which is different an more jarring than he anticipated it would be, you have these Different Power Centers hes created in the white house. I think by the end of last week, they were generally feeling better, the nomination of gorsuch to the supreme court, got him some good will from conservatives, this is what happened throughout the campaign too, i continue to feel like we are in a Groundhog Day Campaign where he has a good day, and then something happens, its usually of his own volition, and his aids have to scramble to deal with it. This is sean spacer, bathrobe gate, play this. That story was so riddled with inaccuracies and lies, they owe the president an apology for the way that that thing was there were just literally blatant factual errors and its unacceptable to see that kind of reporting or socalled report g reporting, that is literally the epitome of fake news. What is the you start at the top, i dont think the president owns a bathroom, he doesnt wear one. There are many pictures of him in a bathrobe with his children, bathrobes of many different sorts. If i owned hotels, i would probably have a bunch of bathro bathrobes. I dont own hotels and ive taken a bunch of bathrobes in my lifetime. Who cares . I think the president seized on that detail, based on everything i heard, because it felt very personal to him, and hes adamant that its not true, weve heard this said throughout the day, were comfortable in our sourcing on this, but i think that we were trying to paint a panoramic view of this president. We were trying to texture whats going on, we were trying to explain what has happened, and that is the president here and the staff here that is one of many details weve been talking about all day. I have to get to a break. Theres nothing wrong with wearing a bathrobe. Many president s im sure trump hotels have them in there. Lbj was famous for it. 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We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum trump has some interesting things to say about his predecess predecessor. Gloria, you wanted to make a point. I want to back up the reporting of maggie and glenn thrush, i dont have the bathrobe scoop. In talking to people that know the president well, and have spoken with him, i do think there has been this large period of adjustment to the white house, im told hes really happy, but he is there literally home alone, his wife and son live in new york. He is alone at night, he watches a lot of cable tv as we all know, he tweets, and then you have the white house staff having to sort of figure out what to do with what hes tweeted the evening before or early that morning, i think its a difficult process for all of them. Given the fact that the white house lines of communication have not been clear, there are ideological differences and you have a president who thrives on managing by conflict and always having a ton of activity, i think its a combustible atmosphere out there. Can you imagine being in the house that big. Home alone. Thats a big place to be alone. You know you can take the bathrobe, it shows up on your bill many not that ive paid for all of them, but some of them. Listen to this. Its a very strange phenomena, we get along. I dont know if hell admit this, he likes me. How do you know. I like him. I can feel it. Now, we had a rough campaign, he was fighting better for hillary than she did. He was vicious during the campaign toward me, and i was vicious toward him. We hop into the car and we drive down pennsylvania avenue together we dont even talk about it, politics is amazing. What did you talk about . We talked about the country, the future of the country. I asked him what do you think our biggest problem is and he told me, i cant tell you, its a problem, its a military problem. That was the one thing he would not share, david. Whats your reaction to the whole thing. These two gentlemen have developed some bridges between them, so they can talk to each other. Theres going to be crises in this presidency, when you may want to reach out to president obama. With all due respect to President Trump i find there are a number of Business Leaders i have an opportunity to talk to in new york. Almost to a person, i enjoy going out for lunch occasionally with donald. He can be charming and funny, his company is fine. They will not do business with him. Its a nightmare. They have sharp disagreements about how to act with each other professionally. Beyond that, theres an attraction about him that people find him interesting and good company. I would imagine thats whats going on here with president obama. Hes building bridges, keeping up a good relationship. Sharply disagrees with everything thats been done in the last two weeks. Thats a perfect segue for maggie, the president is receiving backlash for these comments he made about vladimir putin. Do you respect puten . I do respect him. Do you, why . Well, i respect a lot of people. But that doesnt mean im going to get along with them. Hes a leader of his country. I say its better to get along with russia than not. If russia helps us in the fight against isis, which is a major fight. And islamic terrorism all over the world. Right. Major fight, thats a good thing. Will i get along with him, i have no idea. Hes a killer, though. Putins a killer. We have a lot of killers. You think our country is so innoce innocent. Even republicans are perplexed, why do you think the president continues to praise russia. You look back at the last several years. You go back to 1990, a playboy interview he gave hp he has consistently had words that are purely strength weakness. He had this history in the campaign of praising people who are typically described as strong men or dictators. He described Saddam Hussein as a bad person, but he was good at killing terrorists according to trump. He was against jihadists, but he was considered a state sponsor of terrorism in israel. This happened over and over again, and he praised the chinese for the Tiananmen Square massacre in terms of showing strength. This is consistent and also what you have seen with him in terms of his sort of personal criticism or delegitimizing criticism of a federal judge in the last couple days. Trump has consistently criticized judges, hes been involved in many lawsuits. I think what youre seeing is somebody who has not necessarily it has not changed interrupt. It may change him at some point. For the most part, were seeing the same person hes been for a long time. There are a lot of people who see him and interact with him socially, they find him charming. Where the rubber meets the road, is policy, and his performance. Lets talk about obama care. Lets talk to ted cruz. Senator, are you concerned about trump pushing back the obama care time line saying, wait until 2018 to do something . Im not sure hes doing that, and the president has said he is committed to repealing obama care, republicans in both houses have said were committed to repailing obama care. You want to do it this year . Do you expect it to be done this year . Absolutely. Would you be concerned if the time frame slipped to 2018 . I think we need to move as expeditiously a

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