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CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon February 9, 2017

Hello. Welcome to all of you. Start with you. President watching the live oral arguments along with millions of others last night. Probably watching on cnn but listening to them because telephoned by audio. Today lashed out at three federal court judges who are deciding the case accusing mem of acting politically. I listened to a bunch of stuff last night on television that was disgraceful. I dont ever want to call a court biased so i wont call it biased. And we havent had a decision yet. But courts seem to be so political and it would be so great for your Justice System if they would be able to read a statement and do whats right. Across the line . Helping his case . Hurting . Does it matter . Probably doesnt matter much. Courts are political. He knows that apointed gorsuch instead of merrick garland, political decision. Unfortunate in yesterdays argument the two judges that seemed more sympathetic to Washington State were democratic appointees and more sympathetic to the position of the white house was republican but should have been angry more at the lawyer for the Justice Department who didnt do justice to the case that the white house has. They have a stronger case than that which was made by the lawyer. Fell into a trap by opening argument emphasizing the president s power over National Security. That opened the judges up to asking what is your evidence . What is where is the record on that . Youre just speculating. I dont think the judges really believe that President Trump knows about impending terrorist attacks from classified information, but they have to give him credit because hes the president of the United States and hes the one who initially makes decisions about who to exclude. Its a balancing act and president has to understand this is the only country in the world where judges are equal to the president , Judicial Branch is coequal to the government. Doesnt understand that. Above the law is reporting that trial lawyers sent a letter defending judge james robart of the ninth circuit who stopped ban in its tracks. Writes lawyers across the political spectrum believe the president s personal attacks on judges and Judicial Branch are improper and destructive, face ethical constraints . Ability to respond. Letter calls on president to retract and end personal attacks. What can the solicitor general do about this . Anything . Not much. If you want to harness trump, not going well for anyone who has tried. Now the context of this case matters and why its in front of the court matters. I understand why youre irritated listening to oral argument. If youve never heard one before, going at people arguing case to find weak points is attacking them but thats your job. Trying to convince the judges how to rule on the case. Its hard to predict on the questioning alone which peppered both sides well, what the leanings really are. You have to wait for the process to unfold, in the meantime stay off twitter. And i have reservations about the letter sent. Treat judges as if deities that cant be criticized. These are unaccountable, life tenured judges who have life and death power over all sorts of situations. They should be open for criticism, including from the president. I agree. And you know, so he doesnt want to respond, too bad, deal with it. You heard alan last hour, he criticized a judge and almost went to jail. In italy, might not be so bad. In college. But weve all criticized judges and should continue. In the Roosevelt Administration the good guys were criticizing the judges, now you have to be able alan, let me ask you, appoint a judge accusing of future terrorism attacks. Is that too far. It is. Saying to judges dont free people because theres doubt about something or error. Whenever you free someone who might be guilty, are you responsible . No the system is, shouldnt point the system at judge. Jeff sessions confirmed tonight as attorney general. President not happy about this, trying to get the ban through. Make a difference . I dont think so. This is about the facts and law. President trump also raised specter of terrorist attack today. Listen to this. Terrorism, a tremendous threat, far greater than people in our country understand. Believe me. Ive learned a lot in the last two weeks and terrorism is a far greater threat than the people of our country understand. Julia, any greater risk of attack because of the restraining order . Doesnt work that way don. If you do this, theyll do that. As we all know, what animates a terrorist, theyre capability and motivation and access to soft targets, individuals or populations, so many variables to just say if it werent for the media, then would be safer or for judges we would be safe. All the drama and distraction about what i agree with trump is a threat. Spent my career in it, of course i agree. Its a way of not focusing on stub stantive issues around counterterrorism. Called them the real housewives, theres drama coming out of there. We have executive order alienated our allies, including european allies. Humanitarian workers for the red cross killed in afghanistan, and yemen making statements because of the failed raid whether we can come in and do covert operations. And clearly not happy being on that list. We have issues with the counterterrorism strategy, whether trumps strategy is effective or not. All this stuff hes doing keeps us from assessing and judging what the threat is and how to fight it effective this about fear . Sean spicer asked if knew about specific threat. Trying to scare the public . I think so. Anyone who knows American Public we kind of infantilize the American Public. We know theres a threat and hard to know when its coming. Put confidence in the government to minimize it, get involved by seeing something, saying something. Support the first responders. All this talk about i know things you dont know, its a way of scaring people to make terrorism a bigger issue than it is and distracting from what i think are failures of his counterterrorism policy to date, the executive order, yemen raid and who knows what is coming next. Big increase in traffic into our country from certain areas while our people are vulnerable as we wait for what should be easy d. Is that going to put pressure on. D. Ill go there. Are you old enough to be in the program . Alan arrested in italy, i dont know what is happening. Reason why the president stood up to talk about the lawyer, constitutional ability to decide who comes into the country and why the seeds of fear are being planted because he has the conception the court is second guessing his National Security Risk Assessment prerogatives. Thats not what is happening right now. Ninth court is saying we had a status quo. Obama administration named these countries before and had vetting in place. Tell us why we cant go back to that time and why that no longer works. If there is no reason why we cant go back to status quo, the ban stays suspended until you have a full hearing on the merits. This is really fearmongering but also because he doesnt nrts basis for the rule. But the court did question his authority. There were judges on that court yesterday challenging the government lawyer, and he didnt respond well to the challenge, saying where is the evidence . How do we know . These are hard questions. And i think the lawyer for the government didnt appropriately respond with institutional answers about what the proper role of courts and executive and legit lature. He does have a point. I imagine him watching that saying i have classified information, they dont. Why questioning me like that . I think he has a real learning curve to figure out his relationship with the judiciary. Shouldnt judges be able to question the president . Of course. Thats why saw the process operating yesterday. Imperfect. If they take offense, should he . Each side should be willing to criticize the other. Thank you panel. Silencing senator Elizabeth Warren on the senate floor backfires on republican leaders. Afoot and lighthearted i take to the open road. Healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. The east and the west are mine. The north and the south are mine. All seems beautiful to me. Has been a struggle. 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Pecies has created. Hello my name is watson. Yep. H r block and ibm watson together. Creating a future of more money going back into the pockets of more families. Welcome to taxes won. H r block with watson. Come see us and get your taxes won. Tonight a lot of democrats are rallying around senator Elizabeth Warren, last night silenced on the senate floor by republicans for reading a letter written 50 years ago by Coretta Scott king criticizing Jeff Sessions. Afterwards called into this program. There have been hard words on the United States senate through the years but all of a sudden, reading a truthful statement from Coretta Scott king, answer is cant say that. They can shut me up but cant change the truth. Lets discuss now. Symone sanders, ron naring. Good to have you both on. Elizabeth warren weighing in on Jeff Sessions confirmation. There is no rule 19 to silence me from talking about Jeff Sessions anymore so let me say loudly and clearly, this is just the beginning. If Jeff Sessions turns a blind eye while donald trump violates the constitution or breaks the law, hell hear in all of us, makes the tiniest attempt to bring his racism, sexism and bigotry in the white house will hear from all of us consider this my warning, we will not be silent. We will speak out and we will persist. Do you think the backlash over the senator warrens silencing is fair . You know, i think what you have right now is Democratic Party thats in crisis, it expected to win the last president ial election, got blown out. Now a discussion going on in terms of what direction should the party go . Bernie sanders and radical left or try to appeal, win back voters, union voters for example who donald trump won. I havent seen anything from Elizabeth Warren or any democrat in the house or senate that indicates theyre serious about winning back anyone in the coalition. For time purposes though, do you think the backlash has been fair . Nothing is fair in politics. This is if youre interested in fairness, people need to find another line of work. Reality is we see grandstanding. Jeff sessions was always going to be confirmed. No possibility the democrats would stop it whatsoever so we see grandstanding and posturing and people trying out different type of techniques to get a foothold for the Democratic Party Going Forward. But look at headlines, i know you say its grandstanding. Shepersisted. Letlizspeak. And Hillary Clinton with this weet. How not give her more of a voice. If tree falls in woods nobody would have cared. Not on cable news over the media and in the paper and hashtag. Maybe the strategy was wrong. Elizabeth warrens mini me Hillary Clinton just on the ballot and crushed in the election. Same shrill tactics by Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton. This doesnt work. If democrats continue moving in this election which produced a loss to donald trump in the last election, how going to build a majority. Not on the path now ron. As partisan republican, they can continue on this path for as long as they want, continued minority path for them. You know that donald trump lost the popular vote. Doesnt mean anything in the context of 270 but what the American People believe in and what they want. Look, what happened on the senate floor last night was egregious, its appalling that words Coretta Scott king not appropriate for the senate floor, and during black History Month nonetheless. This was frankly a bad call from Senate Republicans. They helped blow it up. Imwithher, all of those. This was about attempted silencing of those words. Male senators allowed to read it out. Sexism. Do you think it would have happened to man . Why senator warren. We have to ask the republicans why and Senate Republicans specifically why time and time again they traffic in sexism and in some cases bigtry, talking about senator sessions. But Elizabeth Warren told tnt she didnt think it was sexist gesture. Thats senator warrens opinion. Sometimes things sound differently coming from female voice than a mans voice. Those are just the facts. Some people cant take it that Coretta Scott king or Elizabeth Warren or anybody speaks up with an opinion. This ground swell that happened yesterday is not going away. This is the energy that democrats need. I disagree when he says its failed strategy. Contrary to that point, were not. This is reminiscent of the tea party in 2009. This is what were seeing on the left. I have to ask you though ron, made the comparison between Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren and said shrill, sort of, politics or actions. No one describes man as shrill. Do you think thats sexist remark . No i dont think so. Just listen to either Elizabeth Warren or Hillary Clinton. These are people who are catering with their rhetoric and style to a particular branch of the Democratic Party. How is that different than what the republicans do. Hold on a second. Thats where the energy in the Democratic Party is today, why Bernie Sanders did as well as he did and why Hillary Clinton needed biased Democratic National committee to take the nomination away. No no. Thats interesting dynamic but see anything happening . Coming from Elizabeth Warren or Chuck Schumer or nancy pelosi or anybody left in leadership in the Democratic Party to build a democratic majority Going Forward . Absolutely nothing. Donald trump is president today because did very well among a bloc of voters traditionally democrat. Union people. Counties where donald trump overperformed over mitt romney and doing nothing to get them back. Power with the people here. Democrats have work to do but people are showing up in airports to protest the muslim ban, in communities across the country, to Democratic Party meetings. Thats what we need and going to get us gains on the local level. All those people voted for Hillary Clinton. We dont know that. Fact of the matter is, republicans are scared. They have donald trump who is unhinged off his rocker as president of the United States of america and see these people in the streets, ground swell and egregious and that existed on the election day. Let me ask you ron. People said the same thing about the tea party. Wasnt going to make a difference. People screaming and doesnt translate in the votes. And it did. Are republicans concerned about the people in the streets or should they be . In my opinion they should be. Tea party came about in 2009, in 2008, i dont think the Republican Ba

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