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CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon July 6, 2017

World. Fi first michelle, were talking about an intercontinental ballistic missile. The stakes cannot be any higher. Sorry, i wouldnt sure if you were talking to sorry about that don. Thats okay. Yeah, these were some pointed words from the u. N. Ambassador to nikki haley. Clearly they were directed at china not only was this arebuke of north korea, it is a warning of countries that are doing business with north korea, especially china. Saying, yeah, these countries also think theyre going to be doing business with the u. S. , and as she put it, that is not going to happen. Weve seen the u. S. Critical of china, over the couple of days they used the term of aiding and abetting in this role of this crises. Even though the u. S. Has over statements on north korea, us ways of putting pressure, itself threat of military action which was brought up clearly today, it still seems to believe that the real leverage is with china economically. Its made it clear its beginning to continue putting on that pressure, even if that meaning potentially sanctionsing china or companies that we saw last week with the chinese bank. China and russia, are they working on this together, michelle if. Yeah, i mean they were very aligned today in the security counsel meeting. This was an emergency session in the midst of a crises, but even yesterday, we saw Vladimir Putin meet with chinese president xi. They put out this joint statement that read like a rebuke of how the u. S. Was handling this. It was more of the same today in this meeting. Both russia and china saying some of the same thing, they think dialogue needs to come, first and foremost even if its without precondition. Thats not how the u. S. Sees it ate all. Russia especially, even though this didnt get really heated, that language was pointed right at the u. S. Saying you feed to stay away from this rhetoric and threats that compasser baits this the situation. Lest talk about russia now because President Trump set to meet with Vladimir Putin on friday michelle, the kremlin says theyd like to establish a working dialogue with the u. S. What the the agenda at meeting . From the white house little has come out on what the agendas going to be. But theres obvious ones, syria, in fact north korea. Tonight the secretary put out a statement elaborating on syria. On the same they also want to kind of put russia just as the u. N. Ambassador today said that the world is on notice for the north korea problem, in this statement from the secretary of state, he put russia on there saying it has a responsibility and an obligation to work with the u. S. And help ease this problem, but also to prevent syrian president assad from using any kind of chemical weapon against. So you can see where this conversations going in that respect. The u. S. Side wants to work with russia and is willing to on deescalation zones or no fly zones thats an area of progress. On north korea, its more hazy not sure where that can go. We know russia has more room to put more pressure economically because it does business with north korea and has guest workers within russia that funnel money back into the north korean regime. A lot to talk about and a lots going to go on. Thank you very much michelle. Now the American General whose leading the u. S. Troops in south korea said today, this is a quote, selfretrant is all thats separating u. S. And south korea from going to war with the kno north. Whats your response on that . Weve heard a lot of things from President Trump, secretary state tillerson, now the ambassador nikki haley, that are quite belligerent, almost threatening war. And everyone who has studied the problem seriously sees theres really no military option, vs. Temporary temporary tough for very very tough for all kinds of reasons. Youre talking about on world war 2, this one would also have the nuclear trip wire. So in that context it seems that this kind of public bridge reince right nmight not be the strategy. You think about how the Obama Administration brought the u. N. Security counsel together to enforce real sanctions against iran which finally brought them to the negotiating table, there wouldnt this kind of mechanic shaming and naming, it was much more intense privatesy diplomacy. The idea is if we start bad mouthing china thai going todd oh god dam mitt of course let start no. They live right next to north korea. We got to persuade them some pressure will help. But i think theres a real danger here that this is db clients back up is driving it into ae lines with russia. Look at the result right now, weve had a terrible security counsel meeting. I said in the opening of the show this is something that could change the presidency and the whole world is watching. And it feels threatening. So you mention a hill bit if your first answer, but if your perspective, what is a war with north korea look like . So, weve had wars over the last 20 or 30 years which is really insurgency situation. Youve got small of insurgence on especially on the more than side. What youre talking about on the Korean Peninsula is two massively armed countries, north and south korea which are going to engagement in your classic, as i say world war ii or korean type war. Army tanks throws themselves on top of each other. North koreas missiles, rockets can hit it easily and they have prepositioned thousands and thousands of rockets. The South Koreans will fire back. In the midst of all this, remember there are 30,000 american troops. And north Koreas Nuclear weapon and the United States is committed to south korea no matter what meaning escalating all way up to nuclear weapons. If youve talked to anyone who has done a war game, see what it hooks like, you dealing with hundreds and thousands of casualty with the possible of nuclear escalation. On top of that. And you say america is committed to south korea . We have a treaty with south korea. Do you think south korea feels that . Do our allies know what to expect from this administration . Well, so far on south korea, the administration has not done what it did with the nato allies, so i think were okay there. But look, people would always be unsure any country would be unsure at that ultimate moment. This was the great question in the cold war, do the europeans believe that the United States would risk la for bond or paris or london and thats part of what keeps this so tense and which is why it seems to be one of very considered step by step approach. First establishing allies together. Engage china rush seriously rarn trading insults. In an interview published, today a angelo american said this, Global Administration is seen by American Administration war, progress is not about a win win situation but about winners and losers. She sending trump a message . Oh, without any question. She also said germany and europe has to fend for its a couple weeks ago which is more worrying. A lot of countries are beginning to feel the United States is no longer the kind of garp for of world order, the country that would set the agenda that would try to write the rules to maintain a certain amount of stability. The canadian member a couple weeks ago gave this speech where she basically said, thank you america for 70 years in having preserved the peace and order we can see youre saying its not worth it anymore. We as kands and other countries have to pick up the slack and get involved and do more because its important to preserve this order. All these major companies, germany, canada and france feeling like the United States is resigning from war leadership and they need to step in. Of course what that would mean is a tremendous loss of influence for america. If youre not setting the agenda and writing the rules they dont reflect your interests as much as they will germanys or canadas interest. Stick around because i have a lot to talk to you about. More on the president s face to face meeting with Vladimir Putin and why you say trump has put himself in a box when it comes to russia. You wont see these folks they have businesses to run. They have passions to pursue. How do they avoid trips to the post office . Stamps. Com mail letters, ship packages, all the services of the post office right on your computer. Get a 4 week trial, plus 100 in extras including postage and a digital scale. Go to stamps. Com tv and never go to the post office again. I know its not your typical resume, but. [mute button clicks]. 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I think the important aspect of this is that, this is where weve begun on an effort to rebuild confidence between ours and russia at the military level but also the diplomatic level. I think it is an effort to service both our interest as well as the broader interest on the international community. We hope this is going to be the beginning of other important areas that need to be addressed in order to strengthen our relationship. But were at the very beginning and id say at this point its difficult to say exactly what russias sbepgss are in this relationship, but i think thats the most important part of this meeting. Is to have a Quick Exchange with President Trump and president putin of what they both see is the nature of the relationship with our two countries. And were back. You heard the secretary, fareed say transition from defeating isis to Political Solutions in the future of the syrian people. And also, this is the beginning hopefully the beginning of a relationship with russia that can actually work out. Did not mention meddling in the election as part of it. Yeah, certainly strange. Syria is important but id think at a moment like this, that might be item thee on your agenda with russia. Item one, would essentially with b an act of overt hostility that russia undertook of the United States, the cyber hacking in the elections. The second would be north korea because it is a massive pressing crises. Russia has a veto on the security counsel. If youre trying to type in sanctions of north korea and get immentions of it you need russia onboard. Obviously syria is important. But its interesting he chose only to talk about syria which suggests maybe theyre not going to talk about sbeer ephesians in the russians. You say President Trump has placed himself in a box when it comes to russia. Why do you say that . Because right from the start theres also this puzzle of why of all the countrys in the world President Trump, candidate trump had nice things to say only about one country, which is russia. So there was this puzzle. Then you get the scandals and now trump is in the situation where he seems to be trapped, hes paralyzed himself. He cant seem to make a concession to russia, be nice to them, try to work out some kind of deal because that will raise sppgs, why is he doing this, is he in putins pocket. He doesnt seem to want to be tough on russia and that is a mystery. But hi policy has been do nothing, the appeal is frozen. Major issues with with him carding ukraine, syria now north korea. This is the first time that there will be a conversation. Secretary tillersons remarket, did it contradict anything or offer any more perspective of what least the president has offered when it comes to the relationship with russia, meeting with Vladimir Putin what theyre going to get . Well it was very substantive on what he talked about, it was very sensible youre looking for political pollution. The obvious. Exactly. But perfectly sensible, the right thing to doism but as i say, kind of odd that that was the only thing that he said they were going to talk about with russia. Look, so far what we know about this administration, i think he has no idea what trump is going to talk with putin about. Thats the thing, hes being very diplomatic, the secretary of state. But as we know donald trump likes to trust his gut. Could that be appear issue with this meeting if. It could be a huge problem. Donald trump does trust the gut, by the way, a lot of american president s do, theyre skilled politicians. The danger is that you forget that Foreign Policy is not a branch of psycho therapy. If you have a great relationship with this guy one on one it isnt going to change the interest of that country. So you have xi at maralago. Your grand daughter sings chinese songs to him and you offer hip a piece of cake, and you think hes just going to abandon his country. No thats not how it works. Nations dont have permanent friends and enemies they have permanent interests. Our issue is china has deep interest in north korea. Its a next door neighbor. They have worries about it imploding. We need to get at that rather than thinking we can wow the leader. So similarly with putin, putin is a russian nationalist. He has a very cheer and intelligent view of russias interest. Youve got to get to him at that level rather than thinking you can power around and somehow and say oh i forget yes, just sign up with the american agenda. Im glad you mentioned putin. You called him the most powerful map in the world. You met with him about a year ago. So tell us these two personalities coming together. Take us into that. Couldnt be more difficult actually as people. Both think of themselves as strong and tough. Putin is quiet, shes short, hes obviously well built but hes quite unassuming if many ways until he starts to speak. Shes very intelligent, very knowledgeable. So he will take you through the history of u. S. Return relations for the last 25 years, almost year by year. Its a very one sided russian account of how the west has basically pushed russia around. But its all based on facts. Very carefully, imagine a lawyer presenting the best brief he could, bullet by bullet. Trump is a, shall we say a lightly briefed person without muj knowledge about that history and facts, who believes that the most important thing is the eq, the kind of relationship, how it feels, how it looks. Who loses right. Its theater. Itll be interesting to see whether these two end up running each other owner. I cant tell, all i can tell is p. M. ,ty wise you cant find two people different. Trump tells jokes, hes funny, charming. Putin does not. He uses his time efficiently. I got to run. But if he didnt ask about hacking its a it means that he is scared or he has no problem with it for his reelect, no third option. Do you agree with that . Well, i would put it differently. If you put a positive spin on it it would be such appear act of state manship for donald trump to say look, i may have benefited this time but as president of the United States my job is to protect this country, tugss of government, democracy, we cannot have this happened. Just imagine how it would be luke for trump and i think how it would help him politically. I think hes herring himself politically but getting into this defensive crouch where he sees any discussion of this somehow de la legitimate mizes, get over it, you won. Now be president. Yeah. Good luck with that. Thank y very much fareed. Breaking news to tell you about tonight. Congressman Steve Scalise back in the intensive care unit. 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