Comes to russia, how much credibility does the administration have . Lets get right to cnn Global Affairs analysts, a former counterterrorism official, and john siefer who served in moscow in the 1990s and later ran the cias Russia Program for three years. Good to have you all on. I cant wait to hear your expertise on this. Were now learning about the priviously undisclosed meeting at the end of the social dinner on the same day they had their twohour meeting. You say this is totally bazar. Why do you say that . I dont understand the incredible amount of time and focus he spends on russia. And russia just is not that critical. The road to economically and the road. The road to defeating terrorism isnt through moscow. Russia has the 12th largest economy in the world. Texas alone, california alone, each of those states has a larger economy than russia and maybe its innocent. Theres no clear evidence of collusion. Its strange he spends so much time on putin. If the conversation should be about anything, its about terrorism and medaling in the election. Thats what it should be about. Look, the war on syria should stop. We have arab allies that will help us stop with terrorism. Why so much focus on russia by this white house . John, the white house says when President Trump spoke to president putin, they used a russian translator, because they didn english translator didnt speak russian. This probably wouldnt be an issue under any other president but were concerned because president putin obviously has a good take on President Trump and has a lot of experience in the International Arena and President Trump doesnt. So having them one on one is of concern and politically, when vow all of our allies. And to spend all your time on russia, it sends a bad signal, especially when all of this is happening at home at the same time. Are you surprised they didnt disclose this second meeting sooner . I have a different perspective here. This is through translation. So he spent two plus hours with putin before hand. Thats three plus hours. Thats an hour 1 2 in translation. Presumably the Election Fraud issue. The medaling by the russians. Crim crimea. The iron nuclear deal. They discussed a deal, maybe they talked north korea. Thats a lot of turff to cover. We have a president you were talking about how little attention hes paid to health care with detame. I look at this and say why do we think its a bad thing the president had a lengthy discussion with Vladimir Putin if you actually discuss detail . So the summit occurred after north korea launched whats said to be an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile and that was the amount of time he spent with putin was vastly more than president xi of china. I dont understand the focus on russia all this time in terms of geo politics. Theres many other important issues. The president met president of china. He had never met president putin. 90 minutes to talk to one of the top leaders around the world, i say 90 minutes because its in translation. I dont see why were spending so much time on this. Lets talk about this donald trump jr. Meeting. They identified the eighth person in that meeting last june and he works for the Russian Oligarch connected to putin. He studied in moscow. And back in 2000 he was under congressional investigation. A possible billion dollar Money Laundering scheme. He claimed no wrong do and was never charged with a crime. Why are we just learning about him now . This could be the meeting that donald trump jr. Has described that nothing came out of it. But to start without a description that its about children being adopted. They said its not that important a meeting to them and now a close associate is atte attending the meeting as their associate. The drip, drip, drip of russias stories. Could they just disclose how many meetings, when they occurred. They could be innocent but by not disclosing these things, the story continues and continues. In that room we have a russian lawyer who may have ties to the kremlin, though she denies it. One accused of hacking of a company and that was later dropped. And one person accused of Money Laundering was dropped to rr all in the same room with kushner, manafort and don jr. And it wasnt disclosed. This is about dirt. A four letter word in washington d. C. , dirt. Sex, money, power. This is about power. Its not about adoptions. The lawyer who wanted to talk about adoptions knew that would never get her in the room. She said if i want access to power, ive got to promise them dirt. So she comes in with lobbyists who have credibility with don jr. And they say we have access with somebody whos the son of putensh that he will incoming president of the United States. We want as many people in that room as possible because theres a chance that access will grow over time. This is about power and dirt and it looks Pretty Simple to me. This to me has all the hallmarks of a russian intelligence operation. The blatantness of the email ing if this was the first reach out you would have to someone youre interested in. You wouldnt want them to be that aggressive for fear they back off or say no. Its not so much what happened in the meeting or that it took place, its that it took place and don jr. And manafort did not bring the fbi. That sent a powerful signal to moscow. You had a chance to tell the fbi thats why you would send people who were access agents in case theres the fbi there. The fact they didnt tell the fbi, youve sent a powerful signal youre willing to compromise yourself and the russians would think about how to move forward from there. Is it the hallmarks of trying to see if youre susceptible to this . John . Oh, youre asking me . Oh, yes, sir. I use a dating analogy but this is sort of what an Intelligence Officer does. Theyre trying to see if they can move that relationship increasingly in a conspear torrial way so eventually your source and theyre helpful to you or they put out information to embarrass you and the russian in this case could have gone either way. They sent that email. Most people would either run away or invite the fbi. The fact they agreed to the meeting and had the meeting, nobody got arrested, nobody got in trouble sent a powerful signal its worth taking the next step to see if these people are willing to work against the interest of the next country. It sounds like youre saying the same thing. But they needed dirt. Mud is saying they only needed dirt. Yeah. Im halfway there with john. Regardless whether you think they orchestrated this as an intelligence operation. He said nothing illegal happened here. Thats not the point. Even if they heard about the meeting afterwards, that a political player, the potential president is willing to accept dirt from hostile foreign intelligence power. If you got that message in moscow, the lesson might be let me direct my intelligence resources to collect information so that i can feed that into a campaign. I dont care if thats legal or not, thats not what we want in american politics. The inside story of team trump. What Chris Christie did on Election Night that may have cost him a job in the trump white house. Wildcats til we die weekenders. The watch me let if fly. This i gotta try weekenders. Then weve got the bendy. Spendy weekenders. The tranquility awaits. Hanging with our mates weekenders and the its been quite a day. So glad we got away weekenders. Whatever kind of weekender you are, theres a hilton for you. Book your weekend break direct at hilton. Com and join the weekenders. With a stunning 4k displaydow and graphics thates. Bring them to life. 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An explosive new book goes inhadside the relationship between President Trump and his chief strategist, steve bannon. Steve bannon, donald trump and the storming of the presidency. Here to discuss, bryan stelter. Cnn political commentator, matt lewis. And curt bar dellau, former spokesman for breitbart news. This is juicy. Lets talk. Joshua greens book is full of anecdotes from the campaign. Heres what he told about new jersey governor got chewed out on Election Night. Christy had been working a lot of people in trumps circles. Christie was smothering the president and christie had somehow arranged with obamas people that if trump won, obama was supposed to call christies cell phone and he would hand it to trump. Trump didnt like he was exerting himself and hes a germophobe and didnt want to take Chris Christies cell phone. He disappeared pretty quickly that moment in the days that followed, he wound up going from being in charge of the transition and maybe ticketed for some high level job to being completely on the outs sent back to new jersey. So Chris Christie is trying to dominate. And a germ latent phone to a president whos a germophobe. This explains the mystery on Election Night. And joshua green is very well resourc resourced. Its number one on amazon today. I think theyre taking us behind the scenes of what really happened. I saw christie disputing this specific story and his argument rings true. This is going to be barack obama calling donald trump if he won. Basically about a conses sess n session. I dont know. Sounds like a great book. Im inclined to think but i dont want to touch your phone. I have to ask you. This one is about House Speaker paul ryan who bannon feared would try to take the nomination from trump and green writes in his book bannon used his role to trash him calling hame limp dmf erborn in a petri dish. The limp and the mf thing are contradictory. I dont think you can do both. Having said that, this one actually rings true to me. We know this is bannon. Sounds like steve bannon. He doesnt like paul ryan. And the thing that interested me is it supposedly happened at the heritage foundation. Thats a weird place to be dropping this kind of language. A peatry dish right. But when we think about all the rivalries in the republican party. Bannon verses ryan is something to keep an eye on as they try to get the Health Care Bill through. Curt, you worked there. What do you think . This is vintage steve bannon and if you remember at the campaign was heading to the closing sides, there was story after story that paul ryan was colluding with Hillary Clinton to help her win at the expense of donald trump. And i think bryan is right this is one of the more cons wengsal relationships to watch and i foul ey expect a full tilt turn against paul ryan. Theyve made it no secret they dont want paul ryan in as a secret. They had the idea they would replace those leadership figures with people aligned like them as steve has artfully put it. Paul ryan is part of the very establishment that steve wants to destroy. Interesting. I have to say we have invited steve bannon on but he always declined. Steve bannon came in to lead the campaign after Paul Manafort got fouled. He tell as story about a negative article said. You treat me like baby. Am i like a baby to you . I sit there like a little baby and and watch tv and you talk to me. Am i a fing baby. All im thinking is nobody puts baby in a corner. Am i funny haha . But its well known that aids talking to the president via tv. Sure. They want to get their message across, they tend to speak to him on television because they know hes watching. Ive heard from many aids that trump does have a salty mouth and hes used that foul language not just on Paul Manafort but on steve bannon himself. Hes undressed him in front of aids as well. Hes done this to reince priebus. He has a very direct way of speaking to his staff and steve bannon has the same sort of style as well. At the end of the day aids say they feel they have to manage trump in some ways and the only way to plant an idea is to say it through the media or to make it seem like his idea which is very typical when youre dealing with someone who tends to think they have the best ideas. But trump does rely on steve bannon. He carries the torch for his bait. He has the heart of the people hes supposed to be delivering his Campaign Promises for. And at the end of the day i think steve knows and trump knows they need eachither and steve actually does need steve and he could turn the entire breitbart apparatus on trump and that could be damaging to him. Are we surprised foul language is used in a campaign . Does gambling happen in vegas . But its helpful to hear. The Hillary Clinton campaign book, the clinton people were not happy. But were not done yet because were going to talk about megyn kelly, his treatment of women. All of that was written about in this book. Well be right back. Last year, he said he was going to dig a hole to china. At t is working with farmers to improve irrigation techniques. Remote moisture sensors use a Reliable Network to tell them when and where to water. So that farmers like ray can compete in big ways. China. Oh. He got there. 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Xfinity mobile. Were talking about the explosive new book about President Trump and his chief strategist. So it was on full display during the campaign, especially where kelly pressed him. And bannon called her pure eval. Pure eval. This would partly explain why breitbart is very frequently very critical of megyn kelly. They still publish stories about ratings. Never skips an opportunity to criticize megyn. Speaks to ban and his idea to seek media targets. She was an early preview of what the presidency was going to be like with these attacks against the media. This book has fresh insight about how bannon thinks about the press. He doesnt think much about but his attacks on the media. And shows you steve bannon is more interested in attacking figures more center right than the left. Theres nothing bad about nancy pelosi but attacks on paul ryan, megyn kelly. I think thats one of the big things breitbart has done is this struggle between the paul ryans of the world sdh Donald Trumps of the world. And what did we see today . Donate a dollar well give you a fake media, fake news bumper sticker. Youre also going of a jeff black. O vifrts not really the left that much. It reminds me of my dad when i hear him say fake news and then he said bozanga and youre like youve said that 14 times. Every time i come home youve been telling me the same story. I dont care. We shouldnt care. Go on. Whos that . Curt . It reveals theres a certain amount of petiness in that they are so consumed and obsessed with demeaning and beating down anyone they feel has slighted them in life and they crave and want the acsoeptance so much. They want theed aeration from all these people that have shuned them. Breitbart was a laughing stock and it almost served to motivate them even more because they feel so slighted that they are obsessed with trying to get everyone else to come around to the idea theyve been right all along. Well, thats what people in the middle of the country may not understand or people not in new york city or a media center is that he craves media attention. Thats part of the reason hes so upset with cnn because cnn should do all positive stories. He sees cnn as a institution like coca cola and he loves star said. So someone who does ntd just shower love