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CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon August 17, 2017

Manufacturing enterprises work, he doesnt understand how Global Corporations work. He doesnt understand how jobs are created. This is a guy who is not a great businessman and he doesnt relate to great businessmen and women. Thank you both. I appreciate it. At the top of the hour, President Trump defiant in the face of national outrage. Sources telling cnn that he has no regret saying they share the blame for the violence in charlottesville. That violence took the life of heather hire. Well hear from her mother and im going to talk to her pastor in just a few moments right here on cnn tonight. Its easy to over look the fact that the Charlottesville Violence began after White Nationalists began to march the protest the aremoouvl of a state of robert e. Lee. President trump. This week its robert e. Lee. I notice stonewall jacksons coming down. I wonder is it George Washington next week and Thomas Jefferson the week after . You have to ask yourself where does it stop . The debate about what to do with confederate memorials taking place overnight. Gainesville taking down a statue that stood over 100 years. Birmingham, alabama covering a monument until they figure out what to do with it. And the forever cemetery removing a monument early this morning and in some cases some toppling a confederate statue in North Carolina and vandalized and defaced in wilmington, North Carolina. If confederate symbols are going to come down or be removed, according to the southern poverty law center, there are more than 700 monuments. Over 100 Public Schools named after prominent members of the confederacy and 10 major u. S. Military bases named in honor of confederate leaders and theyre questioning statues sitting inside the u. S. Capitol building. There are 12 of them. And only four statues honoring African Americans are there. For more we turn to cnns ryan nobles with more. Ryan. Don, every state in the union is given the opportunity to honor two of its most famous residents with a statue here at the u. S. Capitol. And at least nine of those states have chosen to honor someone with a tie to the confederacy. Among them the former president of the Confederate States of america, Jefferson Davis of a mississippi. And a statue honoring perhaps the most famous confederate general and the same in the center of the controversy in charlottesville. Each state gets to pick who is rchted that capitocapitol. Its not without controversy. Like this statue honoring the confederate war general, kirby smith. Hes from florida. And congresswoman has called for its removal. And there are civil rights leaders honored as well, among them rosa parks who is positioned right across from the former Vice President of the confederate stalts of america. Alexander hamilton. No full size statues of black americans were placed until Fredric Douglas and rosa parks were added. Theyve been part of the monument collection for over 100 years. Joining me is burtroom haze davis. A great grandson of Jefferson Davis, who was the president of the confederacy. Ive been wanting to have this conversation with you all day. Thank you very much. What do these confederate statues represent to you as a direct descendant as a president of the confederacy . I think the statues absolutely represent history and its a very interesting position to say when we look at a statue it represents the history of the person from birth to death, not just a portion of their life. As we look at the monuments to the confederate soldier, they probably represent the soldiers that fought in the civil war for the south. So they are representative of history and its important that we understand that history as we go forward. Do you think that they belong on capitol hill . I think they that were place there had for a reason, not only honoring the person in washington d. C. Specifically if you look at Jefferson Daviss accomplishments. Secretary of defense, senator representative, west point graduate. I think you have to look at the entire individual before you making a decision whether they belong at the capitol of the United States or not. Do you think they belong in public buildings paid for by taxpayer money . I will say this if there is a statue thats offensive to a large majority of the public, it should be placed in a museum or it should be appropriately mark would the accomplishments of the individual. Such as the capitol, which is not only a public building but offers that opportunity to be a museum as we honor these museums in stat ware hall. A woman is dead because people felt so strongly about the statue of robert e. Lee that they rallied a white supremacist rally around that. I believe exactly as i just said. You have to have the history of the entire individual before you so you understand what that statue means. However, it is offensive and people are taking issue with it, lets move it, lets put it somewhere where historically it fits with the area around it so you can have people come to see it who want to understand that history and that individual. I want to know what you think about what the president said about the statues yesterday. Im going to play a bit of it again and then well discuss. Here it is. George washington was a slave owner. Was he a slave owner . So will George Washington now lose his status . Are we going to take down are we going to take down statues to George Washington . How about Thomas Jefferson . You like him . He was a major slave owner. Are we going to take down his statue . So its fine. Youre changing history, youre changing culture. Youre changing history, changing culture. What do you think about that argument and how the president has handled this overall . I think again we have to realize the history is the important part of this discussion. If we have a complete understanding of the history, then we can have a very good discussion about that and put it in context of what is important in that individuals life and what little bit of it we may not like. Do you think that we have a complete understanding . Enough understanding of history in this country . Because you know what happened with the holocaust. Elementary school kids have to go to monuments and places of remembrance for the holocaust. You dont have that in this country. I believe exactly what you said. I dont think we have a great understanding of american history. I think if you ask the man on the street who Jefferson Davis is, a large percentage wont know and if so, they only know one sentence in a history book. So we eliminate a lot of peoples history by teaching that one line. As a president was saying that and as i thought about it and what youre saying here. Are you going to take down this and take down this . Maybe its a matter of moving it to a more appropriate place. I agree with that fully and to include the entire history of whatever individual youre talking about. Soy you have a clear place to understand not only that person in that context but also the rest of his life. I want to play i want to read to you what the grade grandchildren of robert e. Lee said. General lees life was about duty, honor and country. At the end of the civil war, he implored the nation to come together and heal our wounds and move forward to become a more unified nation. He never would have tolerated the hateful words of kkk or neonazis. A lot of people take issue with that characterization given he fought to preserve a way of life that depended on slavery. Do you agree with that comment . Absolutely. Matter of fact, davis made the same remarks over and over again in the 1880s as he travelled through the country. Reunite, be part of this country and move forward. Forget about the past. It is done. And i think we have to look at that and say we need also do the same thing. Understand our history, have a conversation about it, find out how to reconcile our issues and move forward as americans. You understand why some people are so upset by that by the Confederate Flag and by neonazis and some of these statues that there there . I absolutely do. Matter of fact the confederate battle flag in my estimation has been hijacked by that group of racist individuals and should be in a museum which indicates its a military flag and not of the Confederate States of america and i understand that feeling as its always been approached by that group. One tofrp and thats a torch on the statue of liberty. Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. When we come back the president has one account of what happened and an account by vice news shows a different account. Thats next. But heres some of what he told her. What do you think this means for the next altright protest . 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I came pretty well prepared to this thing today. Cal tech pta 3. Glock 19. Also. 09 millimeter and theres a knife. I aint saying it was worth it. We knew we were going to meet a lot of resistance. The fact nobody on our side died, id call that points for us. The fact that none of our People Killed anybody unjustly i think is a plus for us. And i think that we showed our rivals that we wont be cowed. So you think it was justify snd. I think it was more than justified. The amount of restraint that our people showed out there i think was astounding. What do you think this means for the next altright protest . I say its going to be really tough to top but were up to the challenge . Why . Tough to top . I mean someone died. I think a lot more people are going to die before were done here frankly. What a coward. The producer at vice media who worked on that piece we just saw. So good to have you on. You were sitting in the room for the interview with this white supremacist. Walk us through what was going through your mind. I was in there. I mean we wanted to do a followup interview with him to round out our piece and its a story we were telling through him and when we got there, we werent really sure what to expect and so we sat down to do an interview with this guy. He was highly emotional during the interview. Afterwards is when he started taking out guns from different parts of his body. It was scary and telling, i think. These were the very nice people. Very fine people the president described who were marching peacefully through the streets of charlottesville. I have to say you were the only person of colorer in that room. Did you feel any sort of fear because you were African American . I think that we all felt fear. It wasnt lost on me that i was the own lee person of colorer in the room but anytime you are locked in a room with a person with a lot of guns, its going to be scary. So the racist part of it it, but thats a scary experience for anyone. Part of why this president is facing such back lash is because of the massive gap between what he sees in charlottesville and how things really played out. What has it been like being there . Explain to us what you have been seeing out there. Well, i think its very clear that Chris Cantwell and the other people hes involved with have a clear agenda. They told us in the interview that they want a space that is just for them. They think other people are subhuman, not as good as them. And thats a real thought, a real agenda they have. And i think theres no hiding his intentions here. Uhhuh. There wasnt much talk in what we saw about coming there to stand up for the statue to protest the taking down of the statue. What we heard was that they came there because basically saying they wanted to take their country back. They wanted to have a white country. Yes. And i think that to Chris Cantwell thats very important. When we were talking to him at one point he started to tear up and tell us that he didnt want to be viewed as a racist. He didnt want to have this life but that hes fighting for his people and what they deserve and its a responsibility he takes very seriously. Hes very emotional about that and clear about the fact thats important to him and what he wants to do. Watch this video. I want to be peaceful, law abiding. That was the whole entire point of this. And im watching cnn talk about this as violent White Nationalist protests. We have done everything in our power to keep this peaceful and they wont stop. We have done everything in our power. We have used every peaceful and lawful means by which to redress our grievances. And our enemies will not stop. Weve been [ bleep] theyre threatening us all over the place. Whats your reaction to that, tracy . I think that chris is obviously a very emotional person. He gets very worked up. I a also think a lot of White Nationalists and the altright enjoy being able to have people scared of them so they can paint themselves as victims and that reinforces their message that people are scared to let us spread our ideas because theyre true and theyll spread like wild fire if were able to have what they consider freedom of speech and spread what they believe. Theres Something Else i want to play with you. Because vice also spoke to a White Nationalist about the death of heather hire who was killed when a car was rammed into a crowd of counterprotesters. He saw no way to get away from them except to hit the gas and sadly because our rivals are a bunch of stupid animals who dont pay attention, they couldnt just get out of the way of his car and some people got hurt and thats unfortunate. So you think it was justified . I think it was more than justified. That was actually Chris Cantwell as well. The president has said this is murder. Do you think that is a message these White Supremacists will hear . Or he had had no other choice but to hit the gas and go . We were all really shocked to hear chris say that. I think we thought they would say there are extremists in every crowd, every situation. I think we were taken aback to hear him the say this was justified in an act of retaliation, rather than murder or anything else. Great work. Thank you. We appreciate it it. When we come back, crowds were going to tell you about crowds out remembering heather hire tonight and the other people injured and the officers as well who were killed when they were monitoring the situation. Were going to bring you the stuching moments from her funeral and the pastor who spoke at the service. Heres to the safety first. I think i might burst. Totally immersed weekenders. Whatever kind of weekender you are, theres a hilton for you. Book your weekend break direct with hilton. Com and join the summer weekenders. Dj hey siri, take a selfie. 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