A recap of the days news. And beyond. You had this growing up, what do you think . If you had this . Youre successful but i think early on i would have been able to start my path earlier in my life and start it a little bit later. But i dont even know if i would have this school if i didnt have the trials and tribulations i had when i was a kid and the upbringing that i had. It let me know when i was younger if i ever had the means or became successful or anything i want to be able to give back. Do you ever like look around and get down and depressed . I know you said you always want to be positive with dr. King and those guys when you see whats happening in the country, oh, man, were going backwards . Absolutely. Thats human nature. No way you can look at certain things and not feel like, why are we not pushing forward. For me, as one of the leaders of america or one of the leaders of my community, its my
responsibility to stay as positive as i can and let people know we can go further and up and not down even though we feel like were going backwards and going back to places of slavery or gjim crow and things of that nature you want to continue to move forward is important for all of us. Do you think we can get back from this craziness going on . I think so. Its not going to be today, not tomorrow, next month. It will be an ongoing thing. It might be after you and me are well gone but if we can look at the positive things we can figure it out. I see president james might be look whos in here. Did you see those faces . Do you guys know who this is . Yeah. Who is that . Lebron james. Come say hi. Oh, my gosh whats up . Give me five, give me five. Whats up . How yall doing . Are those my shoes . Yeah. You made my shoe, how you doing . Nice to meet you. Whats up. How you doing . Whats up, everybody. I want your autograph. How youre doing . Those are nice. I will have to put those on the wall. Did you see the tennis shoes on the wall. We have to make shows shoes and put them on the wall. What size shoe are you . Im a 9, my shoe is smaller than you. Size 6 . 5 . Do you love this guy . Yes. You think hes awesome . Do you watch him play . Yeah. Yeah . There you go. This is your first day, right . Are you guys excited . Youre at lebron james school. You did . I saw it on the video, my dad you saw it on the radio . You heard it on the radio. Did you know you were going to meet him, though . Did you think you were going to meet him . Now, you did. What does this do when you see this . This is what its all about. Whatever these guys want, man, whatever these guys want. One person knows me, lebron. She said, are you the news guy . I dont know. I like them all. These are cool. These are the foundation shoes, the i promise shoes right there. You made those . I made those, yes. You made this one . All those. Thank you, brother. You guys go ahead and get back to school now. Thank you, guys. Thank you. You guys are awesome. Look at you. A loss for words. Oh, boy, sorry about that. Hes really generous with his time. He was really generous. Thank you very much for that
amazing tour and those kids. Im bringing in cnn political commentators. I didnt think that would hit me like that. I saw the kids and i was so excited. I was thinking dealing with this whole race thing, those kids dont care what color he is. They just love him and in his school. Isnt that a lesson for all of us . It goes without saying. He said before me before we walked in with the kids, with all this rancor he thinks we may get back but it may not happen in our lifetime. I hope hes wrong about that. He also said he worries or thinks were moving backward. I think thats what all of us are concerned about during this presidency. I think its an important observation. We frequently talk and answer the questions since donald trump came along or was elected, has he ripped off and shown us ugliness that was always there. Hes done more than that. Hes actually bringing us backward and making us an uglier country than we were. Hes giving us permission for people to talk and feel in ways they shouldnt and encourage the wrong things. He is throwing bombs here and there to divide us. Its not just a matter we learned under trump things about our country we often ignored, yes, we have. Hes also making those things worse and exacerbating the situation. Several things lebron said during that tour of the school to you and in that interview touched on that an that was very wise. Thats why it upsets so many people. Lebron is doing great things. Other athletes do great things in their communities and you dont always see them on cnn. Lebron is a megastar doing this great thing, parents get geds, theres a food pantry and moving hours, 8 00 to 5 00. A long day. Amazing stuff. When you hear someone calling
professional athletes so bs, right, thats why people get so upset about it. Good for you for doing the story and showing it. We all need to feel good about something and he is doing something to feel good about. Youre right, frank, there is permission for the rhetoric to become coarsened and negative and makes the responsibility of all of us to be beacons of light like lebron james really stand up. Donald trump is a president and he has the bully pulpit of the presidency and he can set the tone. Tone does come from the top. It makes it more incumbent on us, all of us in the Public Sphere and thats all of us, all have a Public Sphere. Like michelle obama, when they ngolo we go low, we go high. Youre appealing to our better angels. What i said before, isnt there a lesson in it for all of us, appealing to our better angels. Im really wondering, i hope youre right. Does it work that way in this day and age when everybody else seems to be playing by the rules except one person or a few people because the president doesnt play by the rules. These athletes or celebrities have individual agency. It is important for everyone to exercise their individual agency. What can i do here locally in my community that will make a difference for someone else . That is touched by the president but that is not governed by the president. When people say, you know, these guys should just be quiet all of these sports groups, Sports Teams Outside are basically in big cities, cities to which black people migrated during the great migration. They have these giant pockets of
community where these athletes are very often the most wellknown people in that community. Or they are among that group. They have a voice. Whether they decide to use it or decide to use their wealth or decide to, you know, use any of what they have access to is up to them. But if they should do it, they can play a giant role in those cities because there are giant clusters of black people in those cities and theyre often locked into circumstances like those kids, right . On one hand, its great hes doing that and on the other hand, it shows how poorly our educational system is set up in this country that someone should have to come in. You said you think he will be an education reformer. I said that with the cameras off but will say it with the cameras on. I think because he is sincere and his energy is there hell stay involved. I will be very curious to see
how this develops as it goes on. This is a project done in conjunction with akron Public Schools, and we have often seen in Public Schools versus some of the Charter Schools and opportunities where there is School Choice is there are disparities in terms of the outcomes and how well students do. I suspect heal stay engaged and suspect if there is any lack of progress or any educational standards that are not meeting lebrons high standards of education he will address that. He has the means to. He has the means to and that will be very interesting. In speaking to him, sue the full interview . I did. In speaking to him, he said the Turning Point was trayvon martin. Certainly, he was moved by charlottesville because he tweeted about it and talked about it and been vocal about these things. I said i was so impressed and it was so refreshing that he spoke with such candor, that he wasnt worried about, oh, my gosh, not
that hes a musician, im not going to sell another more albums to this demographic, this person is not going to watch my movie or this person wont buy a ticket to my ballgame, he doesnt care about that. Hes doing what he knows is right within him. Do you think that offers other athletes the agency or at least the freedom to be able to start doing the same thing . I think it gives them some encouragement. I was struck by all the things you said you were struck by. I was struck by his tone. He could have sounded angry. He sounded to me really sad and concerned. Sad and concerned i think is what defines all of us. Were worried about whats happening to our country under this president and hes clearly worried about it and realizing because he is lebron james he has a voice that will be heard. When he was giving you a tour of the school he used several times the word leader and asking what does leadership look like . Leadership is constructive and gives back. There is a certain human being in the white house that could learn a lot what he is saying and learn about leadership. And during the interview, there was no, excuse me, excuse me to jump in. If i said something and interrupted him he kept his train of thought. He knew what he wanted to talk about. Talked about the school and he said, yes. It goes beyond the school and kept going back to that. Quite frankly, i have to be honest, i was worried his pr folks would be like, you didnt talk about the school enough. Lebron james wasnt worried about that. He kept bringing it up because i think lebron james is smart enough to know the power of cnn and what impact this will have on the larger community, not just about this one school, about the overall community. I would also like to say that i liked the fact celebrities are going back to activist. You look at the number of
celebrities, including black celebrities active during the Civil Rights Movement risking everything. Harry belafonte and Sidney Portier jumped on a plane with a bag full of money to take to the kids in the south during Freedom Riders and finance them and when they got off the kkk entered the strip, they chased them down the dark road, shooting guns into the air, maybe at them, thats what people did. That is how active people were. They were at the height of their popularity and they did that. Right. Sidney pointier and ozzie davis, you name a celebrity, they were on board. They did it and they could have lost everything. Yep, certainly did. More than just twitter doing a hashtag or outraged on twitter. All those things are important but there has to be more action behind it. Stick around, everyone, when we come back, what could the mother
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book . Credit i dont thi i dont think he will worry that much because he spent his entire presidency telling his supporters anything they hear about him they dont like is fake and made up. If its interviews with people not consistently named it will be a he saidthey said thing. As i also heard there are documents and things in trumps own handwriting, thats a lot harder to say thats made up and to get away from. Whats actually in this book matters so much because donald trump has done such a thorough job telling people his critics is making things up. You remember how he reacted to fire and fury, you think it will be the same thing . Ive given up to engage on how i think he will react on things like this and people who follow him off the ledge. I dont know how theyre reacting to it or processing things like this. If its just falling into the tribalism were used to, people who hate him love this sort of thing and people who love him
discount it completely, then i dont know where it takes us on the political spectrum, if it matters in that way. It may be good juice, were in this and cover this all the time and you talk about it all the time, it will be good for us, it will be fun to read. Fire and fury i think it has to do with what youre going to say, its just weeks before the midterm but wondering if republicans should be worried about it. Sorry. Most things with trump end up fallen his favor, his base loves it. Heres the thing. First of all, the definition of fear comes because the question is how you derive power. The answer is through fear, right . This is a fundamentally different and deeply starkly contrasting philosophical difference in leadership than what we were talking about in the last segment. His supporters will excuse this
but we as americans and Everybody Needs to think through how the president of the United States thinks his fear is derived from fear rather than citizenry actively bestowing on him the right and privilege to lead. We live in a Representative Democracy that has certain values and should be reflective of that. It explain as lot psychologically. This is a man who compliments putin and dictators who Murder Millions or jail millions of their civilians without fair trials, im looking at you china and north korea and russia. Duarte of the philippines. It tells us a lot about how the president if you didnt already know and paying attention cares and thinks about authoritarians and admires them while having much less respect for leaders of democracies and our allies around the world. Its also him prioritizing emotional responses over
intellectual ones. We often dont talk about that enough that hes not an intellectual person. All emotion. Because he doesnt have that, falls back on the emotional part, understands it and knows how to work that system rather than cerebral system. Not just emotions but negative emotions. We have gone from a president if you associated one noun with him it was hope to a president who now has a bob woodward book about him titled i think hugely appropriately fear. Hope to fear. Says it all. The president tweeted about the July 20th Meeting he had with salzburger and salzburger urged the president to stop attacking the media and he tweeted they spend much time talking about the vast amounts of Fake News Being put out by the media and how the fake news has morphed into a phrase enemy of the people, sad. He has his definition of what
fake news is, wrong, right . The question is, i mean, why do this . It was an off the record meeting, right . He puts it on the record by doing this. Hes the one who started calling people the enemy, the press the enemy of the people and hes the one that twisted the definition of fake news. Why is he now doing this . When i read that tweet, who knows donald trump is not much of a wordsmith so reading tone into a cluster of donald trump words is a very dangerous game, i thought that tweet had a sort of proud tone to it. Ive invented these terms, fake news and enemy of the people, by god the chief representatives of the new yorkers came in and we got to talk about my vocabulary. Left out of that tweet is what they were talking object, our representatives, charles and i work for the times, you created a Climate Journalists are in danger and have to worry about doing their jobs and there are Security Guards. Fascinating because if you read our publishers account of the meeting only after donald trump had broken the off the record agreement, they said mr. President , you have to recognize there are now Security Guards outside Newspaper Stations where there werent before rather than him saying its terrible to here, oh, they werent there already . Like a childs fascination he thinks weve been living in this climate a long time. No, President Trump, you created this climate of fear. You created this climate. There we