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Slammed the posts coverage of his administration. Much, much more on this story in just a moment. Also tonight, new developments in the case of Paul Manafort, President Trumps former campaign manager. Why a meeting between manafort and with a russian with ties to the kremlin is of special significance to Robert Muellers team. And President Trumps former lawyer, Michael Cohen, is headed to prison next month. What were learning the investigation into his Campaign Finance crimes is still ongoing. Theres lots to talk about. Were going to begin our coverage with mr. Shimon prokupecz who is up on all things russia and this investigation. Shimon, thank you for joining us. This post from jeff bezos, wow. Unbeliev unbeliev unbelievab unbelievable. What are you learning about this allegations against the National Enquirer . Pretty substantial here, don, really, you know, it was extraordinary if the way jeff bezos did this putting this all out there for everyone to see certainly admitting this was going to be embarrassing for him but he needed to do it because he says what the National Enquirer and executives were trying to do was blackmail him, extort and essentially it was to try to prevent the Washington Post from working on a story, an investigation, into the National Enquirer, theyve been working on an investigation. A couple of things these emails indicate and what bezos released from the enquirer is i guess the Washington Post was going to say some of these stories that the National Enquirer has been working on were political motivated, influenced by political views and decisions and it seems that ami was trying to get the Washington Post from not publishing some of this. From not saying that any of these stories were politically motivated and they tried to use nude photos that they somehow have obtained of jeff bezos and other photos of a relationship he had with a woman. They were trying to use these photos to what jeff bezos says blackmail him, try to prevent from any of this story from getting out and try to skew it somehow in their favor. Interesting. I wonder if day want to poke the bear with this one considering just how wealthy brkezos is. Hes coming out really strong. Why is he saying why is bezos saying he thinks it has something to do with ami, trump and the saudis . Again, hard ball hes playing, too, right . Yeah, and hes hired top investigators to do this. There are several investigations that are ongoing, bezos says. Whats interesting, obviously, that peckers connection to the president , longtime friend, they may be friends. He protected the president for many, many years. He was involved in some of the catch and kill stories. He was involved in the hush payments to women who accused the president of having an affair with the president , the president then paid. So hes been around a very long time. Certainly, in the president s circle. So there is that, perhaps, maybe somehow these stories are being done to try and hurt jeff bezos because of how critical the Washington Post, obviously, has been, of the administration and some of the stories that theyre been running. But theres this entire other connection, perhaps, that people have been looking into, and bezos says the Washington Post has been looking into it, and thats the saudis. At one point, bezos writes that, in particular, the david pecker ami, that pecker was apoplectic about their investigation, the Washington Posts investigations, for reasons still to be better understood, but there was a saudi angle that seemed to have hit a particular sensitive nerve of bezos writes. And of course, one of those reasons could be that the murder of jamal khashoggi, of course, and his relationship with the Washington Post. So theres still a lot here that needs to be developed, but these are things that according to bezos the Washington Post was working on and it appears that david pecker was concerned. Interesting. Also some new details tonight about the closeddoor Court Hearing between the special counsels office and Paul Manafort. What is mueller focusing on . Yeah, so this was interesting. This was a sealed hearing on monday. Today, we got ahold of the transcri transcripts. Some of it was redacted as we usually see in these hearings. What we did learn is the special counsels office was very interested, they called it at this hearing, the heart of their investigation, a meeting between Paul Manafort around august 2nd of 2016 and a russian operative, a name by the name of konstantin kalimnik. There was a lot of concern and lot of talk that theyve been trying to figure out exactly what was going on between this relationship between Paul Manafort and this russian operative and say that is part of the what is the heart of the mueller investigation. Were also learning that prosecutors are still investigating Michael Cohens Campaign Finance violations. What does that mean for President Trump . Well, it could be problematic, certainly for his organization. The Trump Organization. We know that people have been into the Southern District of new york, prosecutors in new york, regarding this investigation. That investigation, we learned, in a court filing today, is also still ongoing. There are aspects of the Michael Cohen investigation that are over, but this particular aspect of the investigation, it appears based on those court documents, that that is still ongoing. We had thought maybe prosecutors had come to some kind of an ending there after implicating the president in the hush money payment, but that investigation, according to this court filing, is still very much ongoing. That means that people in the Trump Organization can still be prosecuted if they find that they committed crimes. Shimon, thank you. Appreciate your time. I want to bring in now National Enquirers former l. A. Bureau chief, jerry george. Mr. George, im so happy that youre here. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me, don. Absolutely. Lets talk about the bezos thing, accusing the enquirer of extortion and blackmail. Is this how the enquirer does business . Well, you know, if youll excuse the ve knarnacular, for years, david donald trump has had a hardon for bezos. You know, professional jealousy. The acquisition of amazon. The New York Times. Hes taken shots at every chance he got. So its no surprise that he turned to his good buddy, david pecker, at the enquirer, you know, to do a hatchet job on him. The surprising thing, i think, is, though, that the enquirer would do such a story and play it up so big for, you know, for a name that while everyone in the world knows, you know, bezos, enquirer readers arent that familiar with him. Its not like hes george clooney. Uhhuh. So it just doesnt smell right, and for ami to have almost squeaked by this investigation unscathed and then to go back in to face more potential charges, is baffling. Yeah. So, listen, this was a bold move by bezos. Do you think david pecker and his attorneys, do you think theyre surprised, you think theyre worried . I i think that theyre i think i think that they thought they were smarter than they are, and i think now the reality is hitting them and theyre freaking out. Really . Go on. Do you think could bezos end up owning the whole thing . Suing them . It i think its possible. I mean, the techniques they used are nothing short of extortion. It is it is it is the reco act. I mean, theyve this looks like a crime. Why would there are other aspects i want to get why would someone who constantly calls out the alleged misdeeds of others, even often wrongly calls them out when many people think its just projection, and im speaking of donald trump, why would he be associated with someone like david pecker who, in your estimation, says uses uses, you know, actions that are akin to extortion and the reco act. Because i think he finds it irresistible. I think he feels hes above the law and hell use every tool that he has to achieve his goals. Lets talk about this saudi connection here. Bezos says that pecker was bothered by his investigation into amis ties with the saudis. Earlier in the evening, you mentioned how ami put out this glossy tourism special then the enquirer made a big acquisition. Do you think saudis are funding ami . I certainly think its within the realm. If you stand back and look at it, for them to put out a glossy magazine that was distributed at walmart and it was it was just a valentine to saudi arabia, it just country doesndoesnt ma what do you think ami is go i ing to do now . You said you think theyre worrieded. Right . What do you think theyll do now . In i thi think there will bef contrition and i think they will legal up and promise never to make those mistakes again, but they are an unpredictable bunch. Jerry george, i appreciate your candor. Thank you very much for coming on. My pleasure. Absolutely. So is the National Enquirer still doing the president s dirty work for him . Were going to dig into that, next. Heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. Girl, pepto ultra coating will treat your stomach right. Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. Try pepto with ultra coating. ready to juvederm it . 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Amazon founder jeff bezos accusing the National Enquirers publisher of blackmail and extortion. A very personal blog post, bezos writes the enquirers Participant Company has been threatening him with embarrassing pictures to get bezos to drop a Washington Post investigation into the enquirer. Ryan lizza, Renato Mariotti here to discuss. Wow. Wow. This story has it all. Yeah, this story has it all. Good evening. Its like the saturday night live skit, this story has it all, its got foul language, its got pictures, its got right . Money. The saudis. Its got saudis. Renato, bezos says this is blackmail and extortion. Is he right . Does he have a case . Well, hes right in our common understanding of those terms. I think its possible that he could certainly he could see the National Enquirer and ami and get some money out of them. Obviously, he has very deep pockets of his own. But i dont think a prosecutor would actually be able to bring this as an extortion case. You know, typical extortion case is where you say, look, im going to publish these dick pics and other embarrassing photos if you dont pay me money. Here this is the enquirers lawyers trying to settle legal claims between them and bezos and theyre throwing this into the settlement. Its much more complicated. Theres a bunch of legal issues. Its really awful, but i dont think its something that a prosecutor would bring. I have said and heard things on television tonight that i never in a million years thought. Okay. So, ryan, we know how close President Trump is with ami. We know how he despises jeff bezos. Is ami still doing trumps dirty work . What is going on here . I dont foe. I mean, the two leading theories seem to be that ami is either doing the saudis dirty work, President Trumps dirty work, o or a combination of the two. We know that trump hates bezos. We foe that know he attacks hi t frequently on twitter. He hates a lot of reporting at the Washington Post. We also know that the saudis are not very happy with the Washington Post because, frankly, the saudis killed one of their opinion columnists and they have been incredibly aggressive in investigating and getting to the bottom of what happened in that case. And on a parallel track, ami has reportedly been sucking up to the saudis, perhaps because they have some kind of financial relationship or want one. So, you know, theres a lot of Unanswered Questions about this and what the motivation here was, but just to go back to the question to renato, i think to a normal layperson, this was extortion. Right . This was you do x or were going to expose these pictures. And they did it in writing, though. Allegedly. They did it in writing. You know, a lot of smart lawyers have said this is not necessarily criminal, but it is about the sleaziest thing one can imagine, and kudos to jeff bezos for at a great personal sacrifice to his privacy for coming back and making their claim zero because he said, you know, what im not scared of you to do this, im going to put out the information put it all out there myself. Before you, get ahead of it. David pecker, chairman and ceo of ami started cooperating with the sdnys investigation into Michael Cohene. That was in august. So if he did commit a crime here, what does that do to his deal . Oh, well, that deal is worthless at that point. And thats why i will tell you, to me, the real unanswered question here is why did ami and their attorneys take this big risk . I will tell you as an attorney, i advise clients all the time and i usually, when a client is in a situation like this where the federal government is already looking at them, here they have a deal with prosecutors. The downside of losing the trial is so tremendous. Anything that gives you a 1 chance of blowing up the deal is somewhere you dont go, you dont take that risk. They must have really been motivated to take a big risk here. I wonder why that is. One possibility is that, perhaps, crimes were committed to get this information of jeff bezos. I mean what, for example, they get his pictures and texts and so forth, a crime was committed and now that deal, if thats discovered, those crimes, then the whole deal gets blown up there. It has to be pretty pay jor fma them to get thtake this kind of mr. Legal export, i want to get your thoughts on this is 54 with chief Justice Roberts joining liberals. Does that surprise you . Well, its interesting, a 2016 decision of the supreme court, almost identical law, that essentially the court of appeals here was trying to say, hey, even though the court in 2016 said this law was unconstitutiu unconstitutional, were going to reverse that and second it up to the supreme court. Ev he upheld the rule of law here and essentially said were not going to let our precedents be overturned in that way. What does this mean for theru think . One political point on this, remember Susan Collins and some of the prochoice republicans who Susan Collins, specifically, decided to vote for kavanaugh in the end, and she argued strenuously that her private conversations with kavanaugh, her review of his record, led her to believe that she that he would be on the other side of decisions like this. And i think there are going to be a lot of questions for Susan Collins about whether she was correct or not in that judgment, but it also says that there have been previous abortion cases that didnt come down this way, but it does suggests that roberts is not a sure vote to overturn roe v. Wade. Hes been slightly more nuanced on this than i think some people expected. But watch people talking about Susan Collins in the coming days and her judgment about kavanaugh and what this decision says about that decision. Interesting. Renato, i also want to get your take on what you think of the special counsels investigation. Muellers team says the august 2016 meeting between the Trump Campaign manager Paul Manafort<\/a>, President Trump<\/a>s former campaign manager. Why a meeting between manafort and with a russian with ties to the kremlin is of special significance to Robert Muellers<\/a> team. And President Trump<\/a>s former lawyer, Michael Cohen<\/a>, is headed to prison next month. What were learning the investigation into his Campaign Finance<\/a> crimes is still ongoing. Theres lots to talk about. Were going to begin our coverage with mr. Shimon prokupecz who is up on all things russia and this investigation. Shimon, thank you for joining us. This post from jeff bezos, wow. Unbeliev unbeliev unbelievab unbelievable. What are you learning about this allegations against the National Enquirer<\/a> . Pretty substantial here, don, really, you know, it was extraordinary if the way jeff bezos did this putting this all out there for everyone to see certainly admitting this was going to be embarrassing for him but he needed to do it because he says what the National Enquirer<\/a> and executives were trying to do was blackmail him, extort and essentially it was to try to prevent the Washington Post<\/a> from working on a story, an investigation, into the National Enquirer<\/a>, theyve been working on an investigation. A couple of things these emails indicate and what bezos released from the enquirer is i guess the Washington Post<\/a> was going to say some of these stories that the National Enquirer<\/a> has been working on were political motivated, influenced by political views and decisions and it seems that ami was trying to get the Washington Post<\/a> from not publishing some of this. From not saying that any of these stories were politically motivated and they tried to use nude photos that they somehow have obtained of jeff bezos and other photos of a relationship he had with a woman. They were trying to use these photos to what jeff bezos says blackmail him, try to prevent from any of this story from getting out and try to skew it somehow in their favor. Interesting. I wonder if day want to poke the bear with this one considering just how wealthy brkezos is. Hes coming out really strong. Why is he saying why is bezos saying he thinks it has something to do with ami, trump and the saudis . Again, hard ball hes playing, too, right . Yeah, and hes hired top investigators to do this. There are several investigations that are ongoing, bezos says. Whats interesting, obviously, that peckers connection to the president , longtime friend, they may be friends. He protected the president for many, many years. He was involved in some of the catch and kill stories. He was involved in the hush payments to women who accused the president of having an affair with the president , the president then paid. So hes been around a very long time. Certainly, in the president s circle. So there is that, perhaps, maybe somehow these stories are being done to try and hurt jeff bezos because of how critical the Washington Post<\/a>, obviously, has been, of the administration and some of the stories that theyre been running. But theres this entire other connection, perhaps, that people have been looking into, and bezos says the Washington Post<\/a> has been looking into it, and thats the saudis. At one point, bezos writes that, in particular, the david pecker ami, that pecker was apoplectic about their investigation, the Washington Post<\/a>s investigations, for reasons still to be better understood, but there was a saudi angle that seemed to have hit a particular sensitive nerve of bezos writes. And of course, one of those reasons could be that the murder of jamal khashoggi, of course, and his relationship with the Washington Post<\/a>. So theres still a lot here that needs to be developed, but these are things that according to bezos the Washington Post<\/a> was working on and it appears that david pecker was concerned. Interesting. Also some new details tonight about the closeddoor Court Hearing<\/a> between the special counsels office and Paul Manafort<\/a>. What is mueller focusing on . Yeah, so this was interesting. This was a sealed hearing on monday. Today, we got ahold of the transcri transcripts. Some of it was redacted as we usually see in these hearings. What we did learn is the special counsels office was very interested, they called it at this hearing, the heart of their investigation, a meeting between Paul Manafort<\/a> around august 2nd of 2016 and a russian operative, a name by the name of konstantin kalimnik. There was a lot of concern and lot of talk that theyve been trying to figure out exactly what was going on between this relationship between Paul Manafort<\/a> and this russian operative and say that is part of the what is the heart of the mueller investigation. Were also learning that prosecutors are still investigating Michael Cohens<\/a> Campaign Finance<\/a> violations. What does that mean for President Trump<\/a> . Well, it could be problematic, certainly for his organization. The Trump Organization<\/a>. We know that people have been into the Southern District<\/a> of new york, prosecutors in new york, regarding this investigation. That investigation, we learned, in a court filing today, is also still ongoing. There are aspects of the Michael Cohen<\/a> investigation that are over, but this particular aspect of the investigation, it appears based on those court documents, that that is still ongoing. We had thought maybe prosecutors had come to some kind of an ending there after implicating the president in the hush money payment, but that investigation, according to this court filing, is still very much ongoing. That means that people in the Trump Organization<\/a> can still be prosecuted if they find that they committed crimes. Shimon, thank you. Appreciate your time. I want to bring in now National Enquirer<\/a>s former l. A. Bureau chief, jerry george. Mr. George, im so happy that youre here. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me, don. Absolutely. Lets talk about the bezos thing, accusing the enquirer of extortion and blackmail. Is this how the enquirer does business . Well, you know, if youll excuse the ve knarnacular, for years, david donald trump has had a hardon for bezos. You know, professional jealousy. The acquisition of amazon. The New York Times<\/a>. Hes taken shots at every chance he got. So its no surprise that he turned to his good buddy, david pecker, at the enquirer, you know, to do a hatchet job on him. The surprising thing, i think, is, though, that the enquirer would do such a story and play it up so big for, you know, for a name that while everyone in the world knows, you know, bezos, enquirer readers arent that familiar with him. Its not like hes george clooney. Uhhuh. So it just doesnt smell right, and for ami to have almost squeaked by this investigation unscathed and then to go back in to face more potential charges, is baffling. Yeah. So, listen, this was a bold move by bezos. Do you think david pecker and his attorneys, do you think theyre surprised, you think theyre worried . I i think that theyre i think i think that they thought they were smarter than they are, and i think now the reality is hitting them and theyre freaking out. Really . Go on. Do you think could bezos end up owning the whole thing . Suing them . It i think its possible. I mean, the techniques they used are nothing short of extortion. It is it is it is the reco act. I mean, theyve this looks like a crime. Why would there are other aspects i want to get why would someone who constantly calls out the alleged misdeeds of others, even often wrongly calls them out when many people think its just projection, and im speaking of donald trump, why would he be associated with someone like david pecker who, in your estimation, says uses uses, you know, actions that are akin to extortion and the reco act. Because i think he finds it irresistible. I think he feels hes above the law and hell use every tool that he has to achieve his goals. Lets talk about this saudi connection here. Bezos says that pecker was bothered by his investigation into amis ties with the saudis. Earlier in the evening, you mentioned how ami put out this glossy tourism special then the enquirer made a big acquisition. Do you think saudis are funding ami . I certainly think its within the realm. If you stand back and look at it, for them to put out a glossy magazine that was distributed at walmart and it was it was just a valentine to saudi arabia, it just country doesndoesnt ma what do you think ami is go i ing to do now . You said you think theyre worrieded. Right . What do you think theyll do now . In i thi think there will bef contrition and i think they will legal up and promise never to make those mistakes again, but they are an unpredictable bunch. Jerry george, i appreciate your candor. Thank you very much for coming on. My pleasure. Absolutely. So is the National Enquirer<\/a> still doing the president s dirty work for him . Were going to dig into that, next. 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[birds chirping] [brakes squealing] accidents can happen anytime thats why geico is here 24 hours a day everyday. Geico, fifteen minutes could save you 15 or more on car insurance. So heres our breaking news that were discussing. Amazon founder jeff bezos accusing the National Enquirer<\/a>s publisher of blackmail and extortion. A very personal blog post, bezos writes the enquirers Participant Company<\/a> has been threatening him with embarrassing pictures to get bezos to drop a Washington Post<\/a> investigation into the enquirer. Ryan lizza, Renato Mariotti<\/a> here to discuss. Wow. Wow. This story has it all. Yeah, this story has it all. Good evening. Its like the saturday night live skit, this story has it all, its got foul language, its got pictures, its got right . Money. The saudis. Its got saudis. Renato, bezos says this is blackmail and extortion. Is he right . Does he have a case . Well, hes right in our common understanding of those terms. I think its possible that he could certainly he could see the National Enquirer<\/a> and ami and get some money out of them. Obviously, he has very deep pockets of his own. But i dont think a prosecutor would actually be able to bring this as an extortion case. You know, typical extortion case is where you say, look, im going to publish these dick pics and other embarrassing photos if you dont pay me money. Here this is the enquirers lawyers trying to settle legal claims between them and bezos and theyre throwing this into the settlement. Its much more complicated. Theres a bunch of legal issues. Its really awful, but i dont think its something that a prosecutor would bring. I have said and heard things on television tonight that i never in a million years thought. Okay. So, ryan, we know how close President Trump<\/a> is with ami. We know how he despises jeff bezos. Is ami still doing trumps dirty work . What is going on here . I dont foe. I mean, the two leading theories seem to be that ami is either doing the saudis dirty work, President Trump<\/a>s dirty work, o or a combination of the two. We know that trump hates bezos. We foe that know he attacks hi t frequently on twitter. He hates a lot of reporting at the Washington Post<\/a>. We also know that the saudis are not very happy with the Washington Post<\/a> because, frankly, the saudis killed one of their opinion columnists and they have been incredibly aggressive in investigating and getting to the bottom of what happened in that case. And on a parallel track, ami has reportedly been sucking up to the saudis, perhaps because they have some kind of financial relationship or want one. So, you know, theres a lot of Unanswered Questions<\/a> about this and what the motivation here was, but just to go back to the question to renato, i think to a normal layperson, this was extortion. Right . This was you do x or were going to expose these pictures. And they did it in writing, though. Allegedly. They did it in writing. You know, a lot of smart lawyers have said this is not necessarily criminal, but it is about the sleaziest thing one can imagine, and kudos to jeff bezos for at a great personal sacrifice to his privacy for coming back and making their claim zero because he said, you know, what im not scared of you to do this, im going to put out the information put it all out there myself. Before you, get ahead of it. David pecker, chairman and ceo of ami started cooperating with the sdnys investigation into Michael Cohen<\/a>e. That was in august. So if he did commit a crime here, what does that do to his deal . Oh, well, that deal is worthless at that point. And thats why i will tell you, to me, the real unanswered question here is why did ami and their attorneys take this big risk . I will tell you as an attorney, i advise clients all the time and i usually, when a client is in a situation like this where the federal government is already looking at them, here they have a deal with prosecutors. The downside of losing the trial is so tremendous. Anything that gives you a 1 chance of blowing up the deal is somewhere you dont go, you dont take that risk. They must have really been motivated to take a big risk here. I wonder why that is. One possibility is that, perhaps, crimes were committed to get this information of jeff bezos. I mean what, for example, they get his pictures and texts and so forth, a crime was committed and now that deal, if thats discovered, those crimes, then the whole deal gets blown up there. It has to be pretty pay jor fma them to get thtake this kind of mr. Legal export, i want to get your thoughts on this is 54 with chief Justice Roberts<\/a> joining liberals. Does that surprise you . Well, its interesting, a 2016 decision of the supreme court, almost identical law, that essentially the court of appeals here was trying to say, hey, even though the court in 2016 said this law was unconstitutiu unconstitutional, were going to reverse that and second it up to the supreme court. Ev he upheld the rule of law here and essentially said were not going to let our precedents be overturned in that way. What does this mean for theru think . One political point on this, remember Susan Collins<\/a> and some of the prochoice republicans who Susan Collins<\/a>, specifically, decided to vote for kavanaugh in the end, and she argued strenuously that her private conversations with kavanaugh, her review of his record, led her to believe that she that he would be on the other side of decisions like this. And i think there are going to be a lot of questions for Susan Collins<\/a> about whether she was correct or not in that judgment, but it also says that there have been previous abortion cases that didnt come down this way, but it does suggests that roberts is not a sure vote to overturn roe v. Wade. Hes been slightly more nuanced on this than i think some people expected. But watch people talking about Susan Collins<\/a> in the coming days and her judgment about kavanaugh and what this decision says about that decision. Interesting. Renato, i also want to get your take on what you think of the special counsels investigation. Muellers team says the august 2016 meeting between the Trump Campaign<\/a> manager Paul Manafort<\/a>, his russian associate Konstantin Kilimnik<\/a> goes to the heart of what the special counsel is investigating. What does that tell you about where mueller is heading at this point . Well, mueller has been trying to put together a case of russians and americans working together to commit crimes related to the election. And really, the closest we came to that were some of what weve seen reported and particularly the unredacted portions that were mistakenly revealed by manaforts attorneys about his dealings with kilimnik, where, for example, he was giving internal polling data to kilimnik. Ill tell you this doesnt surprise me. What im interested in, whether reading a report or seeing in charges, what more there was in terms of the dealings between manafort and kilimnik. Thank you, gentlemen, i appreciate it. President is furious the House Intelligence Committee<\/a> hired former National Security<\/a> counsel staffers. A member of that committee, congressman mike quigley, responds next. King too loud. Sorry, is that too loud . You dont need any more hormones in your house. Thats why you chose kraft natural cheese. Made with fresh milk without the added hormone rbst. 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And that goes way beyond the phone records, all the other apps and social media platforms in which they were communicating. The fact that we couldnt do that in the last two years under republican control, where they tanked the investigation then shut it down, made the investigation nearly impossible and it made the questioning of people who appeared before us much more difficult. I guess you can compare it to a civil case or a criminal case where you dont have any of the discovery beforehand. So youre flying blind. The fact is we now know there are at least 18 Trump Associates<\/a> communicating with russians or their cutouts and at least 100 meetings 28 meetings and 100 contacts. I believe its possible that there are many, many more. For us to fully appreciate what the russians did and whether there was a conspiracy to work with them, we need to know who was communicating with whom and what exactly when those communications took place. Representative, also tonight, were learning that special counsels team says that the august 2016 meeting between the Trump Campaign<\/a> chairman Paul Manafort<\/a> and his russian associate Konstantin Kilimnik<\/a> is of significance to mueller. What does that say to you . It is one or more i believe that that communication, the ongoing communication between mr. Manafort and other key russians is absolutely critical to understanding what was taking place. Obviously, mr. Stone, mr. Manafort, mr. Flynn, mr. Cohen, those are all people who are sort of in the same bailiwick when theyre having communications with russians at critical times. Its just one example. A pattern of behavior, if you will, which were trying to get ahold of and understand more fully. Let me ask you about the president s former attorney, Michael Cohen<\/a>. Hes supposed to testify before you committee tomorrow but the chairman, adam schiff, says its been postponed to the end of the month. This is a quote, in the interest of the investigation. What does that mean . Whats happening between now and the 28th . I think that this is a complicated investigation for the special counsel. Its equally complicated investigation for the house and Senate Committees<\/a> that are involved. Our job is to find out what took place, but not to trample or impair what the special counsel may or may not be doing. There will be an open hearing. I believe thats what Everyone Wants<\/a> and i do believe that mr. Cohen your committee has hired the former National Security<\/a> counsel aides to help with oversight efforts. What are you hoping to gain by bringing on these former officials . I think theres a wealth of experth te exper feet that co pepe pep. This is a complicated investigation. I compared it to watergate calling it calculous to watergates algebra. So their expertise, specific areas involving other countries will help us not just with the russian investigation, but remember, you know, 90 of what we do is protect this country. You know, there are the 17 agencies that keep this country safe from the cia, the fbi, and others. They have a world of expertise in the countries that were concerned about. Can i ask yes . Reportedly, the president is furious, really mad about this. Why do you think hes so mad . You know, i think the president is showing flashes of desperation. The fact that you would hire career professionals to do the work of the house intellect committee on intelligence, shouldnt concern the president of the united states. I think some of the people were talking about are career workers who were involved in the obama administration. I think to believe the president and any of his concerns are to believe some sort of deepstate conspiracy. Were not hes implying that theyre snatching people from his inner circle who are going to reveal critical information about the president of the united states. Yeah. Its simply not true. Its the committee doing its work, bringing on qualified people. Representative mike quigley, i appreciate your time. Thank withdryou. Thank you. Take care. House democrats are preparing a Major Investigation<\/a> of the president s finances and he is lashing back at them. How worried should he be . Ing on. Oh really . Thank you clients . Well jd power did just rank them highest in Investor Satisfaction<\/a> with full Service Brokerage<\/a> firms. Again. And online equity trades are only 4. 95. I mean you cant have low cost and be full service. Its impossible. Its like having your cake and eating it too. Ask your broker if they offer awardwinning full service and low costs. How am i going to explain this . If you dont like their answer, ask again at schwab. 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Democrats on the house ways and Means Committee<\/a> taking the first steps today to try to get President Trump<\/a>s tax returns. Can you believe that . The Committee Hearing<\/a> from experts on how an obscure provision in the tax code could potentially give the chairman access to trumps returns. Lets discuss. Michael dantonio here, the a thundershow author of the truth about trump. And andrea, podcast of trump inc from wnyc and pro publica. You won for this podcast . A dupont. Congratulations. Michael, you covered trump for years, adamant about not releasing personal financial deta details. What is he trying to hide . First of all, he lies a lot. No matter whats in the tax returns, were going to discover he lied about something. Hes either lied about how wealthy wealthy he is and how much money he makes and the claim to being a billionaire is not quite proven or perhaps hes lied about his connections to foreign interests. Maybe hes lied about how he acquired his wealth. The inheritance is from his father. Theres so many possibilities here for deception. And i think also, he could wind up being exhibit 1a for whats wrong with the tax system. We may discover that he hasnt paid much in taxes at all for a very long time. And the publics going to see this and think, well, wait a minute, how is this person whos ostensibly so rich not paying taxes the way that im paying taxes . So theres nothing good in this for him. And you have said and others that theres absolutely no evidence that hes presented actual evidence that has been presented that hes a billionaire. Im not sure that he is. You know, hes one of these people who has hectored the various lists insisting that he be put on them as a billionaire. You know, i think during the campaign, it was 10 billion or 12 billion he was worth, but when he and tim obrien were in court over this, we had trouble proving that he even possessed 1 billion in wealth. Interesting. So, andrea, when he hosted the apprentice, he was able to present himself, right, as a businessman, consummate businessman, who has it all together. Do you think that, you know, was thatting a ing ting accurate happening behind the scenes at the Trump Organization<\/a> . Well, from what we know now just from the reporting that weve done, that others have done, there were a lot of problems. There was, i mean, for example, look at the Michael Cohen<\/a> guilty plea. Well, that involved the Trump Organization<\/a> participating in making elicit payments, or theres an investigation of the trump foundation, whether there was appropriate walls between the campaign, the foundation, and the Trump Organization<\/a>. So from what we have learned already, there are theres been a tremendous amount of problematic behavior. So we dont know why the president is so upset. We dont know what there is left to find. Its unknowable until we actually find it. We do know when we examine deals, when we examine financial transaction, when we examine business partners, we find a lot of problematic people and some of the people he was working with are now, we know, outright crooks. Well wow. You know, what do you think we would think if it were shown that Donald Trumps<\/a> business tax returns indicated payments to ami . So how is it that hes gotten such great publicity from the National Enquirer<\/a> for so many years . Was was he buying the publicity . His assumptions about everyobod being corrupt, the way he attacks bezos, for example, are based on his own experience. And projection. Right. So we know that these returns, and if they dig deep enough, get into his business activities, could reveal all kinds of procescross currents that no one has imagined. In fact, the New York Times<\/a> got some of his fathers tax returns. Right. They concluded that there was outright fraud. That was their language. In the way that the trump Family Business<\/a> had not declared taxes. Not made clear the transfer of wealth from one generation to the next. 413 million, they say, trumps father gave him that he has not declared. He said, oh, no, it was a million. I think obviously what all this is building to is the sort of question is what was he doing in moscow . It was amazing to many people that that story in the New York Times<\/a> that you referenced was kind of a big shrug, and thats a huge story. Right. I mean, its hard to know because these things have a way of coming back around with trump, but it does show that when you start looking even at something that people thought was old and long ago, a lot of questions are raised about possible criminal behavior. When it comes to doing business in russia, hes always maintained that he has nothing to hide. Listen to this. By the way, i would say, i dont i dont i mean, its possible that its a condo or something. I sell a lot of condo units. Somebody from russia buys a condo. Who knows. I dont make money from russia. I dont have buildings in russia. They said i own buildings in russia. I dont. They said i made money from russia. Its not my thing. I dont i dont do that. Over the years, ive looked at maybe doing a deal in russia, but i never did one. You think that that debt could also be something that hes trying to hide . Well, i mean, what we know from Michael Cohens<\/a> guilty plea before the special counsel was that the Trump Organization<\/a> was trying to get a trump Tower Building<\/a> built up until the time practically that president nowPresident Trump<\/a> accepted the nomination of his party, even though he denied. So, again, this question is, if its all fine, and if its something as he now says, oh, this is something any businessperson would do, i was running a business, i might not have won, i was entitled to make money. The question is, why did he say all this time that he wasnt when he was if it wasnt problematic . Theres a question here about how things add up and fit together. I think what were having now with the house various oversight committees looking into that is the possibility of actually getting some answers to these questions. I got to run. Thats got to be the last word. Thank you, both. I appreciate, boy, oh, boy, appreciate your time. A republican congressman tried to have the fathers of two parkland victims kicked out of a gun violence hearing when they interrupted him. He told chris cuomo his side of the story tonight. And one of the fathers tells me his side, next. To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best to make you everybody else. Means to fight the hardest battle, which any human being can fight and never stop. Does this sound dismal . It isnt. Its the most wonderful life on earth. Its the most wonderful life on earth. Run with us on a john deere 1 series tractor. Beacuse changing your attachments, should be as easy as. What about this . Changing your plans. Yeah. Run with us. Search john deere 1 series for more. The father of a parkland shooting victim is speaking out tonight about a raw and emotional l encounter on capitol hill. Congressman matt gaetz interrupted by two parkland fathers when he tried to use a hearing on gun violence yesterday to discuss illegal immigration and the need for a border wall. Well, the congressman then tried to kick the fathers out of the hearing. Heres that incredible confrontation. Hr8 would not have stopped many of the circumstances i raised, but a wall, a barrier on the southern border, may have and thats what were fighting for. Mr. Chairman i hope well deal with all of the drivers of violence. The greatest driver of violence in the circumstances that i indicated was not the firearm. It was the fact that we have an immigration system that allows people to come here violently. We engage there will be no comments or demonstrati demonstrations, please. Mr. Chairman, is there a process in the committee whereby if the very same people are repeatedly interrupting the time of the members, that those people will be asked to depart the subcommittcommittee or is t i will. Excuse me. If the gentleman repeats that or any other comment, i will direct he be removed. Joining me now, one of those fathers, manuel oliver. Mr. Oliver, thank you for joining us. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me here. We were watching Fred Guttenberg<\/a> interrupting representative matt your son was 17 years old. Jamie guttenberg was 14. Why did you interrupt the congressman . What were you trying to say to him . I was trying to stop him from what he was starting to say and the point he was trying to make, which was out of context in that room. The reason why we are there is because we lost loved ones. There were 100 kids behind us. Theyre there because they have concerns about gun violence. And lets keep in mind of what really matters here, and thats keeping people alive. He was trying to make a point that was totally unrelated to what the purpose of that meeting was. And i prevent him, in a way, to just go back to the main point here. Dont sell an idea that is just not it wont belong to this discussion. That was the whole point. I reacted as a father. Thats my position. Yeah. I want you to listen. This is congressman gaetz, on with my colleague, chris, a short time ago. This is what he had to say about the hearing. Here it is. I wanted to highlight the fact there are victims of gun violence that would be in a better position today if we didnt have Illegal Immigrants<\/a> coming in to kill people. Why does your Network Slice<\/a> and dice the audio to make it look like i was trying to throw a guy out. What is your reaction to that . Well, he did try to throw us out. He wasnt able to. I think he didnt i dont know if he knew who we were. I think he did. But sometimes when you have something in your head, that is the only solution, which is what i think in this case, this person has, he wont listen to anything else. He was in that room to make his point, to sell his project. And i was in that room along with another hundred people, asking for answers that will defeat gun violence. He had five minutes to make his point, according to the rules in the room. For me, those were five minutes that we wasted. And this is an emergency. We need to make sure that every minute counts. We need to work faster than hes planning to work. Hes part of that committee. And im disappointed about that because i dont see him qualified for that. You said he was trying to sell his point. You have called him, respective qualifications to talk about gun violence. What do you mean about that, that hes not qualified to be on the committee . Once you have your mind made up, its hard to get from you another point of view. And i get that. But it makes no sense. You can be concerned about some people dying and not concerned about the other amount of people that dies in this nation. 40,000 people. Let me tell you something, i came to this country looking for a safety place to raise my kids. That makes me an immigrant, that decided to move here because i wanted it to be here. I wanted to live here because i love this nation. Now, im staying here and i lost my son because he was shot inside his school, by an american citizen, by a white male american citizen. So, its hard for me to be in a serious conversation when were trying to move forward and defeat gun violence and receive as an argument from the other side that we need to build a wall so no more illegal aliens are committing crimes in our nation. I think thats another discussion, again. Actually, to be honest, i want to go back to where i was before this. I didnt know who this guy was and the name that really matters to me is my sons name and the other 40,000 people that, every single year are not with us. We should all be concerned about that. Thats the other thing. If we have something in common here, we are parents. We dont want to lose our kids. I dont want anybody to lose you dont have to be where i am to understand this point. So, any congressman from any party, any color, should understand this. Why is it why is it so hard for everyone to get the number of a hundred people dying per day because of gun violence and not doing anything is an option . How come we are concerned about everybody but apparently a group of people, a Certain Group<\/a> of people, it will keep defending the crazy idea that by arming more and more and more of the nation, we can solve the problem. Yeah. Well, you are honoring your son by what youre doing. Again, your son is joaquin. 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