President granted the clearance on his own. By the way, keep in mind that he said he had nothing to do with it, didnt know anything about it. So that was a lie. Also breaking tonight, the Washington Post reporting that Michael Caputo, a former Trump Campaign aide, will not cooperate with the expansive investigation launched by the House Judiciary Committee with a twoweek deadline for documents. Caputo is one of 81 individuals and entities to receive a letter requesting documents and testimony about the administration, the campaign, the transition, and the trump family and its business. The president s red lines. President trump himself digging in his heels today in the wake of the house judiciary action. The witch hunt continues. The fact is that i guess we got 81 letters. There was no collusion. That was a hoax. There was no anything. And they want to do that instead of getting legislation passed. Its a disgrace to our country. The people understand that when they look at it, they just say president ial harassment. President trump long warning that investigators would be crossing red lines if they started looking into his finances and his family. Well, we are over that red line. Trump not only has to deal with the, you know, the very broad set of requests for information from the House Judiciary Committee. Tonight we are learning that a new york State Government agency is opening an investigation into the Trump Organizations insurance practices. That ninepage subpoena sent to the companys insurance broker, looking into the possibility of fraud and asset inflation. Last week during his congressional testimony, trumps former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen said he accused trumps company of doing just that. And now Michael Cohen is back again tomorrow. Hell be answering more questions behind closed doors before the house intelligence committee. The chairman of the committee responding tonight to the president s tweet accusing democrats of overreaching and obstructing justice. The president has had two years of a Republican Congress that did no oversight whatsoever, so he doesnt know what oversight looks like. There are all too many serious allegations of impropriety in the administration, and they have multiplied every day. So im not surprised he doesnt like the idea of oversight because i think hes all too conscious of the corruption large and small in the administration. Okay. Theres so much happening and breaking late this evening. I want to turn to ellie honig, shimon prokupecz, and David Cay Johnst johnston. Let me start with you, shimon. Look, we had at a place that the president hoped we would never be. The entire trump world seems to be under investigation, right . And you have the family as part of that. The president s finances. Now youve got insurance as another level of that. We understand that the House Democrats could be about ready to get formally request those tax returns from the treasury secretary. And now youve got this whole the president giving ivanka security clearance, overriding security concerns, Jared Kushner too, and he lied about it. All of his red lines seem to be obliterated now, shimon. Yeah, absolutely. When you look at it, its every aspect now of the president s life pretty much is under investigation in some way. A lot of it now centered in congress and obviously new york, where you now have multiple investigative bodies, for lack of a better word, that are really looking at every aspect of the president s life, his business dealings, his personal dealings, people close to him, his family. Hes now opened himself up to issues within congress, with the security clearances. So certainly when you think about what the president said to the New York Times in that interview about the red line, i mean we are far beyond that, right . We were at a point where everyone was so worried about what mueller was going to do. Well, if you look at everything that weve learned really through today in the last few days, we are so much farther ahead than we ever thought with every, every aspect of the president s life under investigation. Ellie, its incredible. We dont even know what mueller does or does not have, right . This is all full speed ahead. Southern district of new york, we know the president is more concerned about that than anything else. When it comes to the security clearances, the new reporting tonight on ivanka trump that he overruled security concerns on that. He also did so of course for Jared Kushner. And today the white House Counsel fighting all these documents related to that. How long can they drag this out . Will they lose on the document fight. I think they can drag it out quite a while, and i think the white house ultimately will lose. I think were about to see a strategic chess game. Heres how it goes. It starts with a request for congress, request for documents, not a subpoena. Theyre holding that back strategically. Today we saw the response from the white house objecting on sort of technical grounds. Its too overbroad, that kind of thing. The next step from congress, if they want to push the issue, is now heres a subpoena. Now you have to hand over the documents. Its compulsory. Its not optional. Then the ball goes back to the white house and they may invoke executive privilege. They want to get through this term. Obviously he hopes he wins a second term but theyre trying to drag this at least through the first term. Could be. Ultimately when they invoke executive privilege, they could end up in the courts. This could take month. With the new reporting on ivanka trump specifically, i think its worth playing again what she told abc news just last month, specifically about the issue of security clearances and whether her father, the president , had anything to do with her and her husband getting them. Here she is. The president had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husbands clearance. Okay. Look, david, its possible she didnt know what he was doing. Totally possible. Its also possible shes completely lying. Will we ever know which it is . Oh, i think so. Interestingly, she didnt say, i dont know anything about that. She offered an affirmative action. The president had nothing to do with it. Now, how would she know that . So i think its more likely that shes lied about this. And of course President Trump himself said he did not intervene in any way, and we have these two memos written by kelly and mcgahn that pretty clearly are designed to make sure if this all goes south, they dont end up living in leavenworth. Right. Theres a record, right, that they somehow made that record. Right. Its interesting ivankas name coming up in this because i know that the chairman of the house judiciary, you know, Jerrold Nadler made it very clear to me, okay, her name is probably going to be on the next list. But she wasnt on the first 81, and everyone else in the trump family was. I just want to play something Rudy Giuliani said about ivanka last year because im wondering if this is relevant. Here he is. If they do do ivanka, which i doubt they will, the whole country will turn on him. Theyre going after his daugh r daughter. Jared is a fine man. You know that. But men are, you know, disposable. But a fine woman like ivanka . Come on. David, just putting aside those many offensive things, what do you make of that . Is that the way it is . Well, i think this is strategic. One of the things that youre going to want to do here is split up the family and get them to not be with each other. And if ivanka gets in a position choosing between her husband and her father, what is she going to do . So i think this is just part of the strategy of how you approach these things, and part of that is, you know, theyre not being overly toughhanded here. At the end of the day, congress can literally send the sergeant at arms out to arrest people and bring them before congress to testify. I dont think youll see that. Pretty incredible if it got to that point. Shimon, we talk about all these lines being crossed and now the family. You also have all of the money, right . The money thats being investigated, tax returns about to be requested, on and on. Now, of course, reporting that an agency in new york writes a ninepage subpoena to the Trump Organization requesting information on an Insurance Brokerage after Michael Cohen, when he was asked directly by alexandria ocasiocortez if the president had inflated the value of the Trump Organization, inflated the value of assets for insurance purposes. I want to be clear that would be fraud. Categorically he answered yes that had happened. What else do we know . So this ninepage subpoena was delivered to the Trump Organization, to actually the Insurance Company for the Trump Organization on monday. Whats interesting about this is that the subpoena goes back ten years. Theyre looking for information from 2009 forward. They want to know about communications. They want documents relating to the Insurance Company and their business dealings with the Trump Organization. The one thing that is interesting about this, right, so this organization, its the new York Department of financial services. Its not well known, but certainly they oversee a lot of lenders. They oversee insurance companies. They oversee banks that deal with business in new york. And one of the things they look for is financial fraud and also obviously fair business practice. They are not a criminal body, so they cant necessarily themselves pursue criminal charges. But if they find some kind of fraud, they can refer to a state prosecutor, and that is much different obviously because a state prosecutor, theres no pardon for the president or anyone who may be involved in this. So it could present potentially different challenges. Certainly these charges could be either if there are criminal charges, they could be referred to the attorney general in new york, which has already launched its own investigation. But then we may also have a new opening here for the New York County d. A. , the manhattan d. A. s office, which could begin looking into something related to this. And of course, you know, again it would be fraud, which leads to the point if Michael Cohen is going to be testifying again tomorrow, its behind closed doors. This is one thing that certainly they would want to drill down on, and i would presume hed be cooperating with any other authorities who are asking questions. But what else do you think is going to be of utmost focus tomorrow behind closed doors . Remember that what we saw last week in public from Michael Cohen was seven hours or so, and the reporting is that he spent, according to mueller and Southern District, he spent ten times that amount of time with them. So i think theyre going to dig deep into a lot of things we heard about in a superficial level. The hush money payments, theres so much more to that story. I think theyre going to want to hear about that. I think theyre going to dig deep into the trump org, into his false testimony, how did he come about this false testimony to the senate. These behind closed door sessions are much different. The questioners are not limited to five minutes. The tv cameras are there, so i think you can get a lot deeper into the substance in these closed door sessions. David, you know, then weve got new reporting because elie just mentioned the hush money payments. The New York Times says they have six more of the checks that trump or his trust wrote to Michael Cohen. Oddly the president started doing this himself via his trust. His name on every one of these. You know, the times did a really good job on this because they go through each of these checks that you see on your screen, and they show the date that the check was written. And then they check against the public schedule of what the president was doing that day. So, you know, on one day he makes a condolence call to a soldiers widow, and then he writes a check on that same day. On another day, he has a meeting with netanyahu, and he meets with president abbas in bethlehem. He flies to rome. He writes another check. Another day he goes to the Prime Minister of malaysia. He writes a check. Another day, he pardons a turkey. He cuts a check. It does, the way they do it, make the point, right . In the midst of all these other things hes doing as president of the united states, he is every single month writing a check for stormy daniels. There are, im sure im sure theres going to be more checks. But what was significant to me about the checks is the initial ones were written from his trust account, and those checks were signed by Allen Weisselberg and don trump jr. All of a sudden donald trump is personally signing the checks. What that suggests to me is that when Allen Weisselberg was approached by the fbi, he suddenly realized he could be culpable and said, im sorry. Youre going to have to sign your own checks, donald, going forward. And im sure that is a question that will be pursued behind closed doors. Yeah, and certainly you do see that shift on these checks. All right. Thank you all very much. A lot more to get to this hour. A former Campaign Staffer for trump or adviser says he will not cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee despite being on that list, the initial list as they emphasize of 81 people they want to speak to. A member of that committee, congressman David Cicilline, reacts next. I remember setting up shipstation. One or two clicks and everything was up and running. I was printing out labels and saving money. Shipstation saves us so much time. It makes it really easy and seamless. Pick an order, print everything you need, slap the label onto the box, and its ready to go. Our costs for shipping were cut in half. Just like that. Shipstation. The 1 choice of online sellers. Go to shipstation. Com tv and get 2 months free. Shipstation. The 1 choice of online sellers. 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He was on that list of people and entities getting letters. Twoweek deadline for information. Says no way. Joining me now, democratic congressman David Cicilline of rhode island, who sits on the house judiciary and Foreign Affairs committees. I appreciate your time, congressman. My pleasure. Michael caputo says hes not going to cooperate with the request for information from your committee. What will you do . Well, i think with respect to all of the document requests that weve made, we intend to get the materials that we need to conduct our oversight. We sent out correspondence requesting these documents, particularly documents that have already been furnished to either the special counsel or the Southern District of new york. To the extent that individuals refuse to provide those documents, we obviously have other mechanisms, including a subpoena, to force the production of the documents. But we have oversight responsibility, and that is contingent on our ability to collect information, to collect evidence, both documents and testimony. And we intend to do that. Its an important responsibility we have. We expect most of the witnesses will cooperate and produce the documents. But to the extent that we have to use Court Process or subpoena, we will do it. So caputo told the Washington Post that hes already begun coordinating with four other Trump Associates who received requests from the committee, and theyre going to be working on some sort of a joint strategy to resist requests. They think its a perjury trap. What do you say to that when they say, youre just trying toito impeach the president . Look, these investigations which really center around three principal areas, corruption, obstruction of justice, and abuse of power, they involve a whole range of activities of this administration that we have a responsibility to conduct oversight for. Thats one of the duties the constitution requires us to engage in. The republicans have refused to do it for the last two years. We have a 500page documents with all of the times we attempted to persuade them to conduct oversight. They never did it. But this is the resp