This is cnn tonight. Im don lemon. Top aides to President Trump conceding tonight that the president s visits to hospitals in dayton and el paso to meet with survivors of the Mass Shootings did not go as planned. They were not successful. The president never publicly talked about how the victims were doing, how theyve recovered or theyre recovering especially in el paso where the gunman a white supremacist setout to stop what he called an hispanic invasion of texas echoing trumps own racist rhetoric. Instead a video has come out of the president escoruted on undocumented immigrants branding them as criminals and murderers. Is the el paso massacre a turning point not only for trump but for americans . Im going to look at the big picture now with douglas brinkley, tara setmeyer. Good evening to you all. Good to see all of you. Im going to start with you, tara. You think el paso was an Inflection Point. Tell me why. I think because it was just so obvious what was happening there and the juxtaposition to the president s language, what the reports have tied to what hes said about hispanic invasion and fox news about this replacement theory, all of that and what this killer wrote in his diatribe and posted and it was clear hispanics were being targeted. We say this all the time, words matter, words matter. Weir we saw words turn to action which turned to bloodshed. And there was this point, okay, at what point are we going to say enough is enough and thats where i think this was an Inflection Point because you really cant run away from it. As much as fox news and others are trying to say White Supremacy and its a hoax, thats not a problem, are you kidding me . Tell that to the families who have lost family members and loved ones at the hands of murderers who subscribe to this ideology. Its insane. And then you have President Trumps response to it which i said oh, my god, were looking at a charlottesville 2. 0. Yesterdays display was just embarrassing. I really enjoyed, by the way, the piece you wrote for cnn. Com where you were talking about Tucker Carlson. I wanted to mention that too since you brought it up. Are we a starting to look at President Trump and racism differently now that gunman writing about invasions of immigrants has killed people . One would hope so. When people voted for donald trump they were trying to test marketing him, kicking the tires, lets try something different. Now you know if youre going to wear the hat spiriting donald trump that racism comes with it. And, you know, you would think that el paso may have been a wakeup call and kind of a smelling salt to this president , that he behaved shabbily, terribly selfpromoting himself in a hospital where people were dealing with the injured and the mourning and the dying, and hes making jokes about crowd sizes. And beto orourke. And then not to call off i. C. E. Going into mississippi on the kids first day of school and apprehending their parents. This is president whose callus has an empathy deficit disorder. And for him this is not a losing proposition this week. Its another way to solidify his base. Always worried about if he angered the nra too much by dabbling with the idea of stronger background checks with guns. It looks like he may have in his phone call with wayne lepier, that may be a concern with his base going forward. Thats the concern of this president. Former Vice President joe biden campaigning at the iowa state fair was asked if he considers trump to be a white supremacist. Heres his answer. Why are you so hooked on that . You just want me to say the word so i sound like everybody else. He is encouraging white supremacists. You can determine what that means. I know everybody wants somebody to call somebody a liar. When you say they dont tell the truth. If you want to hear me say liar, you can put it out and say biden called someone a liar. Thats not who i am. Bidesen says encouraging white supremacists. Can you be racist but not a white supremacist . No, i think if youre a white supremacist youre clearly a racist. And i think we all need to be clear about it. I mean, people have already said earlier and i agree 100 but if youre racist are you clearly a white supremacist . Yes, i believe you are. If youre racist youre a white supremacist. Absolutely theres no question about it. And i think donald trump is a racist. I think hes very clear in his support for White Supremacy. Hes made it clear from the beginning of his campaign when he said came down the escalator and he said mexican immigrants are rapists and theyre criminals. He reiterated this at charlottesville when he clearly took a stand, said there are good people on both sides. He basically sided with the kkk. He sided with white supremacists. He sided with the american nazi party. He sided with a murderer of heather heyer. And so i think its clear, hes a racist, hes encouraging white supremacist. Hes a racist. I dont think we need to equivocate at all about that clear fact. The question is what should we do about it . And i think its time for every american including elected republican officials to take a clear stance, to say this is wrong. And thats why i believe that el paso is a game changer. Heres why i think people are hesitant to say trump is white supremacist whether definitionally maybe he is, colloquially we think of kkk and people in hoods and neonazis marching with tiki torches. And it seams as though some of the main streaming of the language they use has now injected White Supremacy into the conversation and mainstreamed it in a way i dont think most americans want to admit. And because now White Supremacy doesnt mean you have to be torches and a hood, you can be in khakis and i think there are Trump Supporters okay with the language he uses and okay with the fact it seems to fix this narrative but they dont want to admit that what theyre advocating is White Supremacy. They just dont want to admit that because if they do they have to selfreflect. And i just think thats the reason why so many of these Trump Supporters wont even acknowledge what we see right in front of us. I want to talk a bit about strategy here because, you know, whether its i think people you have to call it for what it is. I think we can all agree to that. And Anthony Scaramucci tweeted this out today. He said if he isnt a white nationalist. If you want to best him at the ballot box labeling him is further demonization of our leaders. The president s 2020 strategy is race baiting and up until this week hisviders thought it was a good strategy. If you look at u. S. President ial history, i mean the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s they called it the childrens crusade when dr. Martin luther king had kids and were arrested protesting in birmingham and we had visual imagery and it shamed the country. Whats shaping america now and making some of Donald Trumps supporters queasy i think are the children. The little girl screaming for her mother in mississippi, a dead, you know, mexican girl on the border, you know, along the rio grande river, looking at the separation in the cages there. And though no sane american wants a president thats okay with those things. So i think attacking trump as putting the ark of justice in the wrong direction, john mccain didnt act with a bigoted fashion the way that trump did does. Nor did mitt romney, nor did, you know, bob dole. So i think beating up on trump on race is a winning issue for the democrats because of the children and the separation policy. Thank you all. I appreciate it. An update tonight on fox news with Tucker Carlson who falsely claimed this week that White Supremacy is not a real problem in america, its a hoax. 22 people murdered by a white supremacist who wanted to stop what he called a hispanic invasion of america. Heres what carlson said. But the whole thing is a lie. If you were to assemble a list, a hierarchy of concerns this country faces where would White Supremacy be on the list . Right up there with russia probably. Its actually not a real problem in america. I mean, seriously. This is country where the average person is getting poorer, where the suicide rate is spiking. White supremacy, thats the problem. This is hoax. Just like the russia hoax. Its a Conspiracy Theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power. Thats exactly whats going on. It has been two days since then and the Seven Members of fox corporations board of directors are still silent including Company Chairman rupert murdock. But al roker of the today show is weighing in tweeting the former head of the kkk supports Tucker Carlson for his White Supremacy hoax. Tucker carlson must be so proud and attaching an article from news week about david dukes support. Tucker carlson is on vacation as of tonight, due back on the 19th. Fox news has a long history of their hosts heading out on vacation after they become engulfed in controversy over inflammatory comments. Up next, why some defendants are embracing the trump defense. What is it . Well find out. E fr und the world better than olay . Olay regenerist faced 131 premium products, from 12 countries, over 10 years. Olays hydration was unbeaten every time. Olay, face anything. Be right there baby. 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Lawyers for all three said their clients mental state made them more susceptible to outside influence. Lets discuss now. So good to have you on. I wish we were discussing something better. This is, wow, what a story. Areva, you first. The lawyer for kirk James Brockway says his client is disabled veteran with a severe injury, problems with impulse control in addition to being uber patriotic. And this is a quote. Kirk takes that literally and views the president as the commander in chief, and he sees it happening he feels he needs to do something about it. Is this a viable Legal Defense . No, don. Unfortunately, you know, i feel sorry for this veteran if he has the medical conditions that his lawyer says he has. Then obviously he needs help. He needs mental help assistance. But that is no justification. Thats no excuse. Thats not going to be a viable Legal Defense for him, body slamming a 13yearold boy simply because the boy wouldnt take his cap off at the rodeo at the request of mr. Brockway. A judge may look at his near logical condition, the trauma hes experienced when he gets to the sentencing stage but we dont want to send a message to anyone out there they can rely on these hateful statements of trump as justification for engaging in criminal conduct. Quite frankly im really perturbed the judge released him without holding him given the condition his lawyer says he has and given he has a prior history. I think its alleged in 2010 that he pulled ogun out on a family. So this man obviously has some history of potentially engaging in violent conduct and obviously he was violent with this young boy and still he was out on the street. Hes a danger person and we should take that seriously. In the case of ceasar sayoc. Hes the one who sent things in the mail to others and prominent democrats. Hes the one his attorney said was a trump super fan. Is this exactly what the president s critics mean when they say his words are irresponsible . Well, yes its what his critics claim are going to happen and these are the natural consequences of what his critics say are coming out of his mouth. The issue though is if in fact youre a defense lawyer and youre trying to create a defense, sometimes its all that you have. I agree completely with the position its really not a Legal Defense. Although some states recognize diminished capacity. And some may be susceptible to these types of messages. Then it really could turn out to be where a judge will take consideration and will consider the point of mitigation if somebody is really mentally unbalanced and mentally unstable and theyre getting these messages to prove forward. Because the commander in chief of the president of the United States is by their accounts suggesting they should. And his lawyer cites his belief in a deep state he says of far right Conspiracy Theory as reason for killing a suspected crime boss. He thought he was part of some gang against President Trump. Are unstable people more susceptible to acting out than they would maybe would have been otherwise given the spread of conspiracy theories . Thats whats so frustrating. We all know that words matter. You say that quite often. And it states the obvious. And when have words not mattered . People go to war over words. They make peace over words. We dont communicate telepathically. Words of course matter, and they especially matter for leaders. And the issue is that those who are sane and stable theyre not going to act out and be guided by a moral compass. However, were speaking to everybody and some significant portion of every population are going to be unbalanced and theyre going to take those words literally. Weve seen it. Unfortunately were going to continue to see it if everybody on all sides do not simply monitor what comes out of their mouths. What do you say to this . I say anybody who engages in the kind of criminal conduct mr. Brockway engages in they should be held accountable. We do not want to send the message that some may think is encouraging to commit violent acts, theyre somehow going to get a pass. The criminal Justice System needs to hold these people accountable and, you know, prayers for this young man who was body slammed, skull fractured because he didnt take his cap off at a rodeo. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. 680 people arrested in massive i. C. E. Raids in mississippi. The raids happening on the first day of school there. Leaving a lot of kids worried about their parents. I need my dad. My dad didnt do nothing. Hes not a criminal. Theres brushing and theres oralb power brushing. Oralb just cleans better. Its the one inspired by dentists. With the round brush head. Oralbs gentle rounded brush head removes more plaque along the gumline. For cleaner teeth and healthier gums. Oralb. Brush like a pro. A cockroach can survive heresubmerged ttle guy. Underwater for 30 minutes. Wow. Yeah. 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This separation of families played out for hundreds of migrants picked up in massive raids carried out by i. C. E. Throughout mississippi yesterday. Heres cnns nick valencia. If i could see my mother, please. Reporter an emotional plea from one of the many children left behind after a massive i. C. E. Raid on undocumented workers on the outskirts of jackson, mississippi. Government let my parents be free and free everybody else, please. Dont leave the childs and everything. Reporter this 11yearold like so many others doesnt understand why her parents were taken away from her. My dad, hes not a criminal. Desiree works at one of the seven plants across the six mississippi cities targeted by i. C. E. Very hard seeing many kids cry, scream for their loved ones because theyre gone, they dont know when theyll see them again. Reporter kids who would have had to fend for themselves if not for the compassion of locals like jordan barns. Were going to have a bed available for them and food for them just to get through the night. And if they need transport to school in