To somebody else. Yeah. Whats your take . Well, like i said, if the fruit fits. But this is crazy times. I was sitting in my office watching your show with my my executive producer, and you were playing what the president was saying with macron today. And i said, that is the president of the United States saying things about other people, leaders in the country, calling them crazy and deranged. And i said, when have you ever heard a leader from any country speak of any other leader in the way that this person is speaking of other people . Its just unheard of. My 10yearold nephew does not do that, and if he did, if one of your children did, wouldnt you discipline them and tell them, dont do that . I dont understand whats going on with the Republican Party. If they want to go down this road and they want to be known as the party that allowed america to be derailed by someone who speaks and conducts themselves this way, then by all means let them do it because one day there will be a democratic president , and they will come into office, he or she, and hopefully they wont conduct themselves that way. But they will be able to get away with anything, and the Republican Partys hair will be on fire. Well, look, i hope that doesnt happen, right . Because i always hope that the course of correction is not one of retribution. I hope it doesnt happen, but it will. In politics. You know, the fix for them and, look, i was just having this argument with a lawyer on my show. In 1998, these people are making all the opposite arguments about what was going on with bill clinton. You know, they couldnt find a bar low enough to get that guy. It started about real estate, and it ended about an intern and him lying about sex. It was different because its different. Listen, what bill clinton did was wrong. No question about it. Dont get me wrong. No one is making an excuse for what bill clinton did. But what bill clinton did didnt have to do with foreign policy. No. Right . It wasnt even close. The way he conducted the business of his office, the way he handled his office. Right. He handled his business, right . It was a personal failing as a man and in his marriage, and it was an abuse of it was a power imbalance with someone who worked in his office. Not right, but different. Definitely wrong, and he lied about it, which made it arguably illegal and wrong. Right. However and its a big however. Its not a false equivalency. Its not making things okay. He cut more deals during impeachment than he did on either side of it. He had higher job approval numbers during that process for two reasons. One, it seemed a little ridiculous for people to be chasing after him over the kinds of things that they figure most of them are doing anyway, and most people in this country may be doing. The second thing was well, many people. Not most, but many. No, many. Many people. I think the hypocrisy level is high in this country when it comes to those kind of peccadil peccadillos. I think that wals part of it, a little holier than thou syndrome. The second part is they wanted things done. This president is taking a different course. Ill tell you what, people like Lindsey Graham are in a box. I know right now it seems like smooth sailing for him because hes in the popular embrace o. A thats when their answer gets easy. When somebody shows him hes at 94 in the party, you will get primaried, you may lose, things start to get to be a little bit of an easier choice. And what used to be your high dudgeon of the failure of character doesnt bother you so much anymore. Now its got to be treason. If its not treason, then you cant impeach, when it used to be Lindsey Graham saying, it doesnt even have to be a crime. Ill tell you what. Like the old folks used to say, youre living high on the hog now. But one day the hog gets slaughtered and the hog dies, and youre on the ground. What are you going to do then . You got to walk for yourself. When we look back at history, and theres videotape its digital now but when these folks look back and see the sound bites and they see the way history records them, they will be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves. You mark my words, they will be, history has shown. How will you be remembered because this time will be. Yes, yes, yes. Thank you, sir. This is cnn tonight. Im don lemon. We are just hours away from the next move in impeachment. The first public hearing in the Judiciary Committee. That coming as the Intel Committee releases its 300page impeachment report. Here it is. It is enormous. Got it right here. Were going to read it for you. No, were not going to read it for you. Were going to go through the important parts of this report. But lets be absolutely clear here about what this report says. It tells a story of conspiracy at the highest levels of our government. Conspiracy to extort. Thats what it is. This is not about quid pro quo, right . That cute little phrase or that phrase that they think is cute. No quid pro quo. This is about extortion, a conspiracy to extort a foreign power for the political benefit of the president of the United States. And it wasnt just the president acting alone. The report says the president s men, all of his yes men were in on it too. And it was about much, much, much more than that infamous ukraine phone call, and i quote here. This is from the report. This telephone call was neither the start nor the end of President Trumps efforts to bend u. S. Foreign policy for his personal gain. Rather, it was a dramatic crescendo within a monthslong campaign driven by President Trump in which senior u. S. Officials, including the Vice President , the secretary of state, the acting chief of staff, the secretary of energy, and others were either knowledgeable of or active participants in an effort to extract from a foreign nation the personal political benefits sought by the president. And the thing about all of this is the facts are not really in dispute. The facts that came out of the investigation and more than 130 hours of public and private testimony by 17 witnesses the facts are not in dispute. But the spin, well, thats a different story. The spin, whew, make you dizzy. The president s republican defenders will tell you there is nothing new in this. Theyll say, theres nothing to see here. Move along. Wrong. There is a big surprise in this report, something that we didnt know about before. Theres neverbeforeseen phone records for key players in the ukraine shakedown, including Rudy Giuliani, his indicted associate lev parnas, and devin nunes. Yes, that devin nunes, the Top Republican on the Intel Committee. The logs show him in multiple calls with the president s attorney and with parnas this past april in the weeks before ambassador Marie Yovanovich was forced out. I want you to take a look at this is nunes call log for april 10th. Five calls with giuliani in the space of 15 minutes. Five calls. Two days later, nunes has four calls with parnas, who has been charged with illegally funneling foreign donations to republicans in 2018. We dont know what was said on those calls. Nunes has refused multiple requests for comment from cnn, including dodging a question from our very own manu raju. Look. Reporter what is your reaction to being named in the report, sir . Hmm . Somebody Say Something . Just kept walking. Now, take a look at this. Rudy giulianis phone records for april 24th. See those highlighted calls there on the screen . Theyre all calls between giuliani and the white house, eight of them, on the very day ambassador yovanovich was told to get on the next plane and get out of ukraine. You remember giuliani waged a Public Campaign against the ambassador. So the timing of all those calls is interesting to say the least. And speaking of the timing, the report indicates that house investigators got hold of those phone records in september. That was well before the public impeachment hearings began. So they knew about nunes possible involvement. Is this something he maybe should have disclosed during those hearings . You think . Adam schiff saying this today. It is, i think, deeply concerning that at a time when the president of the United States was using the power of his office to dig up dirt on a political rival, that there may be evidence that there were members of Congress Complicit in that activity. Now, theres a lot more to learn about that, and i dont want to state that that is an unequivocal fact. But the allegations are deeply concerning. Well, the white house reaction to all of this, playing the role of press secretary stephanie grisham, who has still never held a press briefing, comparing the report to what she calls the ramblings of a basement blogger. Hmm. Where have we heard Something Like that before . Oh, yeah, this. I dont think anybody knows it was russia that broke into the dnc. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay . Kind of makes you wonder who wrote that statement, doesnt it . My guest here. This is a president who always wants to ignore inconvenient facts. I want you to just listen to how he tried to explain away the impeachment inquiry. This was just this morning. Youll have a democrat president. Youll have a republican house, and theyll do the same thing because somebody picked an orange out of a refrigerator, and you dont like it, so lets go and impeach him. Orange, refrigerator. Exactly the same thing. He has a habit of ignoring inconvenient facts, even pretending im going to give you some proof, okay, to stand by. Even pretending that he doesnt know central figures in the investigation, like gordon sondland, the Million Dollar trump donor who and this is probably just a big old coincidence was appointed by the president to be the ambassador to the eu. Roll it. I i hardly know the gentleman. Well, you knew him well enough to tweet that he was a really good man and great american. Of course that was before his inconvenient testimony in the impeachment inquiry. But thats the kind of, you know thats this president s m. O. He did it with his Campaign Chairman paul manafort. Here it is. I didnt know manafort well. He wasnt with the campaign long. I told you, some evidence. He did it with his own personal lawyer, former trump fixer and keeper of secrets, michael cohen. But hes been a lawyer for me, didnt do big deals, did small deals. Not somebody that was with me that much. He did it with his other personal lawyers clients, claiming he doesnt know two indicted associates of Rudy Giuliani, igor fruman and lev parnas. I dont know those gentlemen. Now, its possible i have a picture with them because i have a picture with everybody. I have a picture with everybody here. But somebody said there may be a picture or something at a fundraiser or somewhere. But i have pictures with everybody. I have i dont know if theres anybody i dont have pictures i dont know them. I dont know about them. I dont know what they do. Interesting that he says there might be a picture because guess what . There is. Actually there are quite a few pictures, more than youd think if you didnt know those gentlemen, gentlemen who have been indicted for Campaign Finance violations and federal prosecutors in new york say are likely to face additional charges. Like i said, its the president s m. O. Remember this. I said this before to you. That indicates hes thinking, hes thinking, i dont know. Remember that. I dont know prince andrew, but its thats a tough story. Its a very tough story. That was prince andrew. He doesnt know the prince. The prince that he shook hands with during his state visit to the uk. This was in june. The prince he met with along with thenprime minister theresa may, the prince he was photographed with. This was at maralago back in 2000. Nope, doesnt know him. Inconvenient. Like i said, this president ignores inconvenient people. He ignores inconvenient facts. But there are a lot of facts coming out of this impeachment investigation that are really inconvenient, and he wont be able to ignore those. 300 pages. 300. 17 witnesses. 130 hours of public and private testimony. Just how strong is the democrats case against the president . Thats a question for jamie gangel, frank bruni, guy smith, next. [narrator] meet the ninja foodi air fry oven. Make familysized meals fast, and because its a ninja foodi, it can do things no other oven can, like flip away. The ninja foodi air fry oven, the oven that crisps and flips away. Says they can save you dollars. Which makes it hard to believe, especially coming from a talking lizard. Cheerio esurance is built to save you dollars. And when they save dollars, you save dollars. So get a quote. When insurance is affordable, its surprisingly painless. The House Intelligence Committee releasing its damning impeachment report, finding what it calls overwhelming evidence of President Trumps misconduct and obstruction of congress, and it concludes the president s top aides knew about the scheme to shake down ukraine for dirt on joe biden. Lets discuss now. Jamie gangel is here, frank bruni, guy smith. So good to have you all here onset with me. Good evening, one and all. Guy, the intel report paints a picture of conspiracy at the highest levels of government. How strong do you think is the democrats case against the president . The water just got really deep for donald trump. If you compare this whats said in this document to what was said about andrew johnson, about even Richard Nixon john dean said this earlier this evening and bill clinton, this is by far way more extreme, and the detail is extraordinary. And if you take the detail thats in here and compare it to what the republicans put out the other day, which doesnt deny any of the actions. This is all baghdad bob and joe isuzu in this thing. I mean the scary thing for donald trump is hes not sending his lawyers. Theyre not defending him. He isnt defending himself, and you got devin nunes running around ukraine and austria and god knows wherever else making phone calls. Hes going to go to jail. I said this about giuliani, and so is nunes. Theyre violating allegedly. Allegedly devin nunes doing all of that. But, listen, ive got to ask you because youre a journalist. Im a commentator. You said the water got really high, right . So using that analogy, its like the ship analogy, the water analogy. The president is clearly steering the ship, but youve got people like the report makes it clear pence, pompeo, perry, mulvaney. They were all either knowledgeable or active participants. So what happened here . Whats going on . I was going to say to extend the metaphor, the crew is much more populist than we realize. I think one of the most compelling narratives of this, and i dont mean compelling good, is the sheer number of people who once in the beginning renounced donald trump, who saw him clearly before he won the presidency, who shelved all of their principles just to be near power and just to have some power themselves. And you are seeing person after person, mulvaney, rick perry to a lesser degree, you know certainly pompeo, very striking. Youre seeing person after person decide that theyre going to buck up and support this president no matter what he did, no matter what principles theyve ever espoused in the past. It is one of the most sobering political lessons ive received in my lifetime, how much political selfinterest will trump principle forgive my choice of word in the end. Let me read the very first line. This report reflects the evidence gathered thus far. Thus far . Is there more to come because of all the democrat surprises with this new evidence today . There were phone call records. Right. I think thus far is going to go down along with everyone was in the loop and get over it. What weve seen are inconvenient facts, inconvenient people, today inconvenient phone records. And i think there is much more to come. Here are the questions you have to ask. Whats coming out of the Southern District of new york . Why is all of a sudden were reporting tonight, jim acosta, our colleague, that white house sources are saying that rudys in trouble with the president , that he needs to be distanced from rudy. So i think all of these things are going, but there are two phone calls that i wanted to point to, and those are phone calls on august 8th and april 24th. And those are phone calls Rudy Giuliani to omb. I spoke to several sources tonight who said, why in the world is Rudy Giuliani calling omb . There is just no reason for that whatsoever. And the quote was, it was highly suspicious. So now we have to ask, you know, what were those calls about, and why in the world was the president s personal lawyer involved with that . One is a 13minute phone call with the office of management and budget, omb, as you mentioned. What does that mean, guy . It means they were setting up the hold on the military aid, and he had probably either was just about to or just had communicated to the ukrainians that if you dont do what were asking you or telling you to do, youre not getting the aid. Jamie, can you expound more on what you said about jim acostas reporting about the president the campaign is souring on giuliani . So heres you know, the other day we heard rudy said he said he was joking but that he has insurance on the president. When you talk to former white house officials, people who have worked for donald trump, they will tell you that on monday, Donald Trump Tells you to do this. On tuesday, he tells you to do the opposite. And be very careful what you do because if it doesnt turn out the way he wants it to turn out, he will forget that he told you that. Im not saying that Rudy Giuliani taperecorded the president. Im not saying he didnt taperecord the president. But i dont think it was an accident that rudy said he had insurance on trump because of trumps reputation. No, i think thats a great point because why has rudy not been thrown to the wolves yet . Correct. Because maybe he cant be thrown to the wolves. Thats right. As we say, what you mean by that . Maybe if he gets thrown to the