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CNNW CNNI Simulcast April 17, 2014

Its last day of witnesses before easter break. The latest from pretoria. Hello, everyone. Good to have you with us on this thursday. Youre watching cnn newsroom. Im john vause. And im Rosemary Church. We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and all around the world. South koreas rescue operations are about to get slammed by heavy weather. For now the search does go on. Divers looking for nearly 300 people still missing since the ferry capsized. The death toll stands at nine but could rise sharply. Already griefstricken relatives are bracing for the worst. And just a short time ago the ships captain apologized. That comes after a similar message from the ships operator. Among the passengers were more than 300 High School Students on a field trip to the Resort Island of jeju. Many of those rescued are giving disturbing accounts of what happened as the ship quickly sank. Translator there was an announcement telling us to sit still on the ferry. But the ferry was already sinking. Some of the students were not able to escape. The ferry started to list. So we asked if we should escape now. But the announcement kept telling us to stay still. There will also be questions about why officials reportedly instructed people not to get on lifeboats. A local station just showed this video of undeployed lifeboats still on the ship. Cnn affiliate ytn is reporting that only one of the 46 lifeboats was deployed. Parents are desperate for more information, and many are outraged at the pace of the search and how its being conducted. Translator the civilian team went out there, but the tides made it too dangerous, so they came back. Then the government rescuer says its too dangerous for them too. Shouldnt i be angry at that . If the government cares for our people, please rescue our families and our children. So lets get the very latest now on the search. Pauline chu is on the phone from jindo. So pauline, of course as weve been talking about this bad weather moving through, which of course is making it even more problematic for rescuers trying to get to possible survivors in that sunken ferry, so talk to us about what sort of progress is likely to be made with those challenges. Reporter well, rosemary, its very slow and difficult. And the weather has been getting worse. It started raining even more since the last time we spoke. So this has made the search operation incredibly difficult. And the families are incredibly frustrated. Just to give you an idea of the challenges that the search and rescue teams have, three divers according to our affiliate ytn were trying to get into the boat but they were actually swept away by high tides. This happened just a couple of hours ago. And then Fishing Vessels in the area were able to rescue those civilian divers. Also, a search team has tried to inject air into the boat in order to try to give the boat a little bit of a lift, to try to stabilize it a little bit, and also the air would also help survivors if there are survivors trapped in any air pockets within the boat. Now, there is that question that has been in the local media about whether the captain of this ferry had actually deviated from its regular course. And cnn has spoken with the Government Agency that gives preapproval to vessels before they take to the water and go on their route. And this Government Agency has said no, this ferry did not stray from any sort of route that it had been approved on. They say they even went back and checked the sailing tracking chart for this ferry and it was pretty much along the lines of what the ferry had applied for. So they say those reports by local media about the captain deviating and making a sharp turn are incorrect. Rosemary and john, we did speak with a couple family members. Theres a lot of frustration. We spoke with this one mother who had a very poignant story. She and her daughter had been to jeju island two months ago and they had a great time, and jeju island is where the ferry was headed to. Its a Resort Island. And then when this School Field Trip came up this mother hen couraged her daughter to go on the School Field Trip. The daughter had said no, she wasnt interested because she had just been. And the mother persuaded her to go, saying she would have a lot of fun with her friends. And today when we spoke with her she broke down saying she absolutely regrets that decision. Oh, just heartbreaking stories. Theres nothing to say really. Pauline chiou reporting there from jindo. Many thanks. John. Louis ceto is the chairman of marine and naval architecture at the Hong Kong Institute of engineers. He joins us now live from hong kong. Sir, thank you for being with us. A lot of passengers were told to stay in their cabins, stay where they were. Why would that order be given . Initially, in case of abandoning ship or any dangerous which happen on the ship the captain may first announce that there might be abandon or evacuation, so they just inform all the passengers attention so that they can wear have sufficient time to wear the life jacket and prepare everything. And waiting the second call so that they can go to the call point for gathering before evacuation. But that second call for evacuation according to some people on board never came. Yes. And then some of the crew they have their own duty. They should escort the team because they have their own duty in terms of emergency. So they need to escort the team of passenger to a safe position or to the gathering point where it is easier to to landing on the lifeboat or inflightable raft. Louis szeto, the chairman of the marine and naval architecture of the hong kong engineers joining us trying to explain how exactly the process would have worked on board this boat. Thank you, sir. Ukraines interior minister says about 300 people attacked a military unit in the southeastern part of the country today. Yeah, the minister says on facebook that three of the attackers were killed, 13 wounded, and 63 others detained. The clashes are reportedly ongoing. This comes as the unrest has spread to other parts of the country. Ukraines military says heavily armed militants seized six Ukrainian Armored vehicles in the crown of kramotorsk 200 kilometers west of the russian border. That happened wednesday. They then paraded the vehicles with russian flags through slovyan slovyansk. Thats a nearby town which they appear to control. Later a mob of civilians stopped more Ukrainian Military vehicles and forced them, the soldiers there, to disarm. And in the steve donetsk prorussian militants have seized the city council building. Russian president Vladimir Putin says ukraine appears to be on the brink of civil war, and natos secretarygeneral says the alliance is beefing up its defenses. Well, Foreign Ministers from russia, ukraine, the e. U. , and u. S. Are meeting in geneva over the coming hours for highlevel talks about the ukraine crisis. Reza sayah is there and skroinz joins us now live. Reza, given whats happening, whats the likelihood that any progress within made in these talks . Reporter rosemary, this crisis has become so entangled and so complicated that expectations for this seminar are low. I dont think anyone expects these top diplomats to come here and resolve this messy crisis in a matter of a few hours. But theyre going to give it a shot. All eyes on geneva today, scene of this fourparty mini seminar. Top diplomats arriving last night. Catherine ashton, the eu Foreign Policy chief. U. S. Secretary of state john kerry. The ukrainian acting foreign minister andre vistitsiya also in geneva this morning. Sergei lavrov, the Russian Foreign minister. Theres so much at stake here, the territorial integrity of ukraine, eurussia relations, russiau. S. Relations. Again, i dont think anyone expects these parties to sit down and solve things. But if they come here and at least tone down the rhetoric, dial down the heat, reduce some of the accusations and the finger pointings that have been taking place and increasing over the past several days and several weeks, i think many are going to see that as a success. But things are so entangled that many dont even expect that to happen. Even before this meeting ukrainian leaders signaled theyre going to come to this meeting and put down on the table proof that russia is responsible for sending agents, Security Forces dressed in uniforms without insignia to incite some of the protests weve seen in eastern ukraine. Those are troubling signs that these sides are far apart. But this is such a significant crisis, many calling it the most significant crisis after the cold war era that these diplomats are here in geneva trying to fix things. Yeah, indeed. And reza, of course the west is threatening a tightening of sanctions if russia doesnt deescalate the situation in eastern ukraine. But russia doesnt appear particularly concerned about those threats, does it . So what other options are there . Well, options at this point seem few. As you mentioned, the u. S. Is mentioning sanctions. So is the European Union. But if you talk to observers, theyll tell you that russia is not a country that can be easily isolated with economic sanctions. Because they have a hand to play as well. Russia is a significant supplier of energy to europe. About 25 of gas supplies in europe are supplied by russia. They go through ukraine. So certainly they have a hand to play. They can hit back. And many say imposing sanctions can escalate matters. A lot of people eager to see if they can come up with some solutions today. Theyre engaged in bilateral meetings at this hour and a couple of hours all sides will sit down in one room to talk together, which is going to be fascinating. And at 3 00 p. M. Theyre going to have a News Conference where theyll tell us if they were able to achieve anything, rosemary. Our reza sayah reporting live from geneva. Many thanks to you. Time for a short break here. But when we come back, still no big breakthrough but there is new anger over the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight 370. Yeah, next find out why families of the passengers stormed out of a meeting room in beijing. Also the Oscar Pistorius murder trial is set to resume in just minutes. The prosecution is going after one of the defenses key experts. Those details still to come. He thought it was the endn for his dof the conversation. D. 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Officials hope to learn if it is aviation fluid or it might be something else. Families of passengers want answers. They thought theyd be getting some from malaysian authorities on wednesday, but that never happened. Senior International Correspondent ivan watson joins us now live from beijing with more on this. The families have a lot of questions here. And the malaysians either cant answer those questions or they wont answer them. Youre right. The families of the 153 chinese nationals who were on board, they do have a lot of questions. And those questions have become highly technical as throughout this more than 40day vigil the families themselves have really started researching the plane, what could have happened. Theyve published a highly technical list of questions, john, that they say they submitted to the malaysian authorities last monday. Theyre questions such as please tell us the manufacturer of flight 370s black box. What is the exact serial number of that black box. How many emergency locator transmitters were on board the plane . Where were they located . And what was their maintenance record . These are the kinds of details that these people desperate to know about the whereabouts of their loved ones, these are the kind of details that they want from the malaysian authorities. They say they are not getting these answers. And anger is boiling over here. Anger and rage from families of passengers of the missing Malaysian Air flight 370. [ yelling ] officials in malaysia were supposed to hold a Video Conference with relatives of some of the 153 missing chinese nationals. But technical glitches blocked the link between kuala lumpur and beijing. Youre all bloody liars and youre lying to us again now. Reporter an interpreter translated as angry family members stormed en masse out of the room. Some hurling abuse at mute malaysian officials. You have absolutely no shame. Reporter lack of information about the plane has bred suspicion here. People were yelling liars at the malaysian authorities. Yes. Of course. They are liars. Reporter steven wangs mother was a passenger aboard the missing flight. Hes one of hundreds camped out at this beijing hotel, waiting desperately for news about missing loved ones. Its just like a big cage that it is full of the bad emotion. When we get into the room, we feel that you know, sad and angry and exhausting. Reporter for more than a month Malaysian Air has been accommodating the families of more than 100 passengers at several hotels in beijing. It has been an agonizing vigil. Malaysian authorities left a diplomat and representative from the airline to brief relatives on a near daily basis. Those sessions feel like a crossexamination. Relatives ask oftentimes technical questions. Questions that these men simple wri y cannot answer. It is an unhappy, desperate, increasingly angry situation. Now, john, the malaysian authorities, of course, they say theyre trying the best that they can. But thats clearly not satisfying people here. Especially i witnessed how the representatives of chinese families were asking the malaysian representatives how come you cant get us all downtown in a group of hotels very close to each other instead of having us have to travel more than an hour sometimes to go to these daily briefings . The malaysian authorities were kind of hard pressed even to answer those logistical questions. And it really seems to, 40 days into this vigil, with simple problems coming up like an inability to set up a video teleconference, that is breeding real suspicion and distrust among these anguished families. To the credit of the malaysian authorities, they have sent a highly placed Technical Committee to meet with them last month here, and they have sent special envoys as well. But of course these desperate people just want more information. And thats probably not going to go away until this missing plane is finally found. John. And that could be quite a while. And you really cannot blame them for this level of anger and outrage that they have. Ivan watson live for us in beijing. Thanks, ivan. Rosemary . John, today well see one more day of testimony in the Oscar Pistorius murder trial before it recesses until may 5th. Court is scheduled to resume in about 10 minutes. Defense forensic expert roger dixon is expected to return to the stand. Hes been testifying about the differences in sound between a gun being fired and a cricket bat hitting a door. During crossexamination yesterday the prosecution sought to cast doubt on dixons level of expertise. Are you a sound expert . Just answer that question. I would hope that my my evidence that i present is sound, yes. Are you a sound expert, sir . No. Have you received training in decibels and sound . My lady, the tests that i undertook where i wielded the cricket bat was purely to determine whether the sound made by the bat striking the door could in any way be confused with the sound made by a gun being fired. Do you need to be an expert to do that . What expert skills did you use . I made a sound. Did the prosecution manage to undermine the defense experts testimony with that very dogged line of questioning . Yeah. We will talk about that with cnn legal analyst kelly phelps live in pretoria just ahead. Plus well see how the swaerth affecting search teams looking for survivors in the south korea ferry disaster. Were back in two minutes. For all kinds of reasons. Peoplt i go to angies list to gauge whether or not the projects will be done in a timely fashion and within budget. Angies list members can tell you which provider is the best in town. Youll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare. 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