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CNNW CNNI Simulcast September 2, 2014

Sa reef to try to keep his job. Why some people who initially welcomed the islamic militants are now having second thoughts. Im good for the time being but i need to let people know that im getting desperate. Desperate pleas from captives in north korea. What message pyongyang is sending by granting these interviews to cnn. In pakistan the Prime Minister is about to appear before both houses of the countrys national assembly. Prime minister sharif is facing mounting pressure to step down over allegations that last years elections were rigged. Demonstrators in the street have been demanding his resignation. Theyve been protesting for weeks and getting louder and louder. In islamabad, of course initially we thought he would be talking within the last hour. But were still waiting. What is happening there, exactly . Reporter rosemary, the joint session is now under way. The Prime Minister has arrived and actually the interior minister has just started addressing parliament during this hour. A lot of criticism about the interior ministers handling of the situation. Not only by some for allowing protesters to get so close into the red zone, so close to those key buildings like parliament, like Prime Ministers house. But also following the clashes and how theyve been dealing with protesters to disperse crowds. Violent clashes we saw over the weekend saturday left three people dead. More than 400 injured. Were still not sure about those figures as well because theres a lot of theres not much clarity with these figures. People saying that a lot of officials are trying to manipulate figures and not give us the right fig United Airlines of those. Yesterday again protesters emboldened perhaps by how close they can get to and around the red zone spread out. We were there to take a look at what happened. Hundreds of protesters took over the Pakistan Television building, taking the channel offair for a short time. The police were nowhere to be seen. The military has been asked to guard state institutions. Soldiers are now marching into the state broadcast area. The protesters have not managed to breach this area before or get so close. Many of them, though, clearly happy to see the military, despite concerns by some about military intervention. As were going in, people are patting the military on the back. Theyre shouting long live the army. They sealed off the area, pushing protesters back. Police today, it seemed, taking a back seat. But the protesters hadnt tired. From what we can tell, hundreds of protesters charged up from main constitution avenue where the main protest is and the sitin is. They came here. This area was where police had positioned themselves. Police have now stood up in full riot gear and confronted the protesters. The protesters spread out, trying to take more ground. We saw police charging them. But soon they came running back. Police fired tear gas. Aimlessly into the crowds. So much of it, the air was thick with the milkywhite fumes. There was no clear indication of a plan here. Some had no interest in facing the protesters. Others calling on their colleagues to unite. Many fighting with each other. We saw protesters with chains, handcuffs, and even a noose meant, they told me, for the Prime Minister. Who says stepping down is out of the question. Rosemary, as we said, the interior minister is speaking in parliament right now. Hes just told this joint session, essential specially called by the Prime Minister over the weekend that they believe their 8,000 to 10,000 at its peak of protesters out on the streets. Thats in the evening, likely when people finish work and come to join the protests. They believe that drops down to no more than a couple thousand in the day. But that only adds to the criticism of why the interior minister cant lead the police to cleave the protesters. Police incredibly unpopular, many claim to be politically affiliated. Thats why were seeing time and again the military coming in to try and negotiate with protesters. As we wait for pakistans Prime Minister to address the perform at, lets talk about what hes likely to say. Weve already heard as you said in your report he has said stepping down is out of the question. So we cant expect any dramatic announcement, perhaps, here. So what is he doing this fall . Yes, its interesting. Late last night, all the local tv channels were saying, yes, were expecting him to resign in dramatic fashion in this joint session. Not likely, as you say, he has said that he will not go. Last night the defense minister spoke to cnn saying that its absurd to believe that a Prime Minister who came to governance in a democratic election would step down, with a majority. Of course the protesters, lets remind everyone, believe this wasnt a democratic election, that it was rigged, and that they want to see not only a recount, which theyve been asking for a year now, but also a reelection. Thats not likely to happen either, rosemary. What we believe and what our sources are telling us, many politicians and people inside the assembly, we think the Prime Minister will call for unity, he will call for all the politicians to back him and support him. We understand that either that will be done by the Prime Minister himself or a politician from his party will call to move a motion to do so. All right, saims moissin joining us live from islamabad as we await the live address from the joint parliament and wait to hear from Prime Minister sharif to hear what he has to say. There are a few thousand protesters outside and theres 180 Million People who live in pakistan. So of course, you know, they are noisy, theyre getting a lot of attention. But do they actually represent the vast majority of people . We should also stress that gnaw wa sharif has obviously been democratically elected in one of the rare corruptionfree elections of the year. No doubt hes feeling some pressure. Sure. He obviously was a victim of a coup in 1999. Hes very much aware of all of that right now. Other news, the u. S. Military has carried out an operation against al shabaab militants in somalia. The pentagon would not release further details but a somali governor says a camp where a top al shabaab leader was meeting was targeted by a suspected drone strike among those at this camp, al shabaabs top commander. The u. S. Declared the Al Qaedalinked group a terrorist organization in 2008. Al shabaab is trying to overthrow somalias government, regularly launches attacks inside somalia and neighboring countries as well. Three americans held captive in north korea have urged president obama to do what he can to secure their release. This is incredible. Cnn was unexpectedly granted permission to speak to these three men. Kenneth bay has been held the longest of the three, since november 2012. The North Koreans have been reluctant to negotiate his release. As brian todd reports, our rare access to the three men could signal the start of a new tactic from the north korean leadership. Hi. Reporter kenneth bay asks his family to pray for him. Says he works eight hours a day, six days a week, in a labor camp. In an interview with cnns will ripley bay spoke about his failing health. I do have a disorder right now, severe back pain, conditions not doing so well. Hands get numb. Tingling hands. Its been very difficult sleeping at night. Also working in the field every day. Reporter bays family says he has high blood pressure, diabetes, kidney stones. Jeffrey edward fowls, speak fast and nervously, said he was desperate to be released. Matthew todd miller looked robotic, said he deliberately committed his drim when he tore up his visa and asked for asylum this year. I prepared to violate the daw of the dprk before coming here. Why now . Why would the North Koreans put these guys out for interviews now . First of all, their motivations is behind this interview has been to gather u. S. Attention and then try to pave a way for the highlevel dialogue with washington. Reporter while the North Koreans may view the three americans as criminals, experts say they likely also see them as important bargaining chips. As an american there, you can be considered a very highvalue target if you are detained by their government. Reporter analysts say the North Koreans are likely angling for an envoy with huge stature to come to north korea and take these men out. Much like bill clinton did in 2009 when he won the release of two journalists. Could baes case prompt such an event . Hes been held almost two years, sentenced to 15 years hard labor. Bae says he goes back and forth between a hospital and a labor camp. Conditions in north korean prison camps, thought to house more than 100,000 people, were revealed in a u. N. Human rights report in february. The report had drawings from former prisoners depicting skeletal, starving people eating snakes and rats, emaciated human remains left for rats to eat. Kenneth bay may not be in one of uh those facilities. He says hes the only prisoner in the camp where hes held. Ive been a presser in in the camp the last year, year and a half. Reporter analysts say kim jonguns ren jet stream doesnt want bae to get seriously ill or die in their custody. Their negotiating ploy with u. S. Is to try to get us to agree to nuclear arms control. To accept them as a Nuclear State which we cant do. Reporter the white house and state department have responded to cnns interviews with the three men, both entities saying theyre doing all they can to secure their release. The state department requesting the North Koreans pardon kenneth bae and grant him special amnesty and Immediate Release so that he can reunite with his family and seek medical care. Brian todd, cnn, washington. Bill richardson joins us on the line from chatham in massachusetts. Youre a former u. S. Ambassador to the u. N. , former governor of new mexico, you also spent a lot of time in north korea, four days at least, dealing with North Koreans in 2007, trying to negotiate the release of the bodies of american soldiers. You were also there just last year with the chairman of google. You have a lot of experience in dealing with North Koreans. And the narrative now seems to be that by parading these three americans with the cameras, the North Koreans want to talk. So is it too simplistic to assemble if the americans send a highlevel envoy like yourself or bill clinton that the americans would be released . No, i dont think thats the case. Its much more complicated than that. The reason being that the North Koreans are sending a signal that they want to negotiate. Thats why theyre parading the three americans. But i think what the u. S. Wants, and im not speaking for the u. S. What the u. S. Wants is for north korea to take some steps to denuclearize. Not to be shooting their missiles. Nuclear detonations. So its more complicated than that, than just sending a u. S. Envoy. The response from the state department so far has been to request the release of the three men. That seems like pretty weak tea. But is there much more going on behind the scenes that we just dont realize at this stage . Well, you know, im not sure what the administration is doing. I think that this is going to cause this interview by cnn is going to cause the administration to make a policy review and try to deal with the nuances of what does it mean to talk to the North Koreans directly at the sixparty talks, or bilaterally, just the u. S. And north korea, and what steps need to be taken so that these three are released on humanitarian grounds. Very quickly, is it possible to separate the fate of the three americans away from the issue of denuclearization or is that just a nonstarter . Probably a nonstarter. The North Koreans want a linkage. And i think the United States i think properly so, wants them to take some steps, at least moratorium on detonating any more nuclear weapons. They really have been excessive in their belligerence and their use of these weapons to scare the entire world. So i think something must be worked on. I think it will. So i saw these interviews as a good sign that may start a process of negotiating the rightful release of these three individuals who are obviously suffering. Sure. Bill richardson, thank you so much, we appreciate that. The british Prime Minister wants to take bold steps to safeguard his country from islamist militants. After the break we will show you what he wants to do. Also ahead, a celebrity hacking scandal is shaking up hollywood. How you could be putting your own secrets at risk. Without even knowing it. In your skincare . But do s neutrogena naturals. A line of naturally derived skincare with carefully chosen, clinically proven ingredients and no harsh chemicals. Healthy skinstarts from within. Neutrogena naturals. Hello three grams daily of betaglucan. A soluable fiber from whole grain oat foods like cheerios can help lower cholesterol. Thank you we turn to the growing threat from isis and other jihadist groups. British Prime Minister David Cameron is proposing new laws to fight islamic extremism. The measures would increase air travel checks and allow police to seize passports of suspected terrorists. The uk wants to stop radicalized britons from traveling overseas to join isis, then return home and carry out attacks. Mr. Speaker, me are proud to be an open, free, and tolerant nation. But that tolerance must never be confused with a passive acceptance of cultures living separate lives or people behaving in ways that run completely counter to our values. Critics say mr. Camerons proposals are vague and they might just be impossible to enforce. U. S. Air strikes continue to target isis positions near iraqs mosul dam. Meantime, the u. N. Plans to investigate alleged atrocities by isis in both iraq and in syria. Anna coren has details on the reign of terror isis has imposed on the city of mosul. Reporter when isis brazenly took control of iraqs secondlargest city in june it sent shock waves throughout the country and the region. Alienated by the maliki government and persecuted by his Security Forces mosul was Fertile Ground for the militants. But nearly three months after isis raised its black banner over the city, residents describe heavyhanded oppression and brutality under the rule of these islamic extremists. When they first came to mosul they told us they would protect us and that this was a revolution, explained this man. Too afraid to reveal his identity. But after the people got to know isis they felt hatred towards them. The people of mosul now live in fear of arbitrary arrests, punishment, and death. With eyewitness reports of a young man accused of adultery publicly stoned to death. Conditions in the city are rapidly deteriorating. With short ans of power, food, and medicine. We are afraid to even go out, says this woman, who must wear a veil and be accompanied by a male relative. The best freedom is to stay inside your house. We have known islam for years but we have never seen anything like this. It was in mosul isis leader al baghdadi made his appearance as the selfdeclared khalif. To others his vision bears no resemblance to his beliefs. 1,400 years we have believed in islam and we have never seen this. How is it possible they came up with a whole different interpretation of islam . This is a stupid interpretation. He adds that isis forces them to swear allegiance or face death. For those escaped like these businessmen who spoke on the condition we wouldnt show their faces its been torture with family and friends still in mosul. I speak to my family on the phone. They say, we wish we would die, only to be free. We never wanted to live under their control. All the people of mosul are now imprisoned. They believe there are people planning to resist isis. Last week a group claiming to be in armed opposition to the militants posted this video. But the businessmen say isis and its supporters are too powerful and cant be defeated without outside assistance. A move that would involve enormous risk. We fear they will use the people of mosul as human shields, says this man. We need the International Community to help. But if no one comes to their rescue, they morbidly believe the only safe haven for the people of mosul is death. Anna coren, cnn, erbil, kurdistan, iraq. Well take a short break. A british couple is arrested after pulling their cancerstricken son out of the hospital. A lot more on that up next. Welcome back to cnn. The parents of a 5yearold boy with cancer have been detained in spain. They told a spanish judge they refuse to return to britain. Authorities say they withdrew their son from a british hospital last week without authorization to seek treatment elsewhere. Reporter its a nightmare for any parent. Their 5yearold son suffering from brain cancer. The family and doctors disagreeing about treatment. According to a video the boys father recorded for youtube. They looked at me straight in the face and they said, with his cancer, which is a medulo blastoma, it would have no benefit whatsoever. I went back to my room and looked it up. And the American Science and french science and Switzerland Science said it would be very beneficial for him. Reporter proton beam treatment is a type of lowerdose Radiation Therapy used in cancer treatment, which targets the tumors but does less damage to the surrounding healthy tissue. The hospital says, we are aware of the comments made online by his father throughout ashers admission we have had conversations about the Treatment Options available to him and we had offered the Family Access to a Second Opinion as well as assistance with organizing treatment ab

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