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CNNW CNNI Simulcast December 30, 2014

Likely receiving news they did not want to hear. Lets go to Andrew Stevens, who is live at the airport. Andrew of course everyone now is hoping there will be survivors, but there are now reports there have been victims spotted in the water. Reporter yeah there has been images shown of victims in the water. Bodies floating in the water, john but no sign of any survivors. But also there is still a lot of rescue vessels that need to get to that area. The chances of finding anyone alive honestly are very, very slim, indeed. The head of the National Search and rescue team the main man in charge of the search and rescue here in indonesia saying he was 95 certain that this debris is from airasia flight 8501. The only reason he didnt say 100 is because he actually hadnt seen it with his own eyes. But obviously this is very very compelling evidence. The plane, for all intents and purposes has now been located, or debris of the plane. The rest obviously is under water. It coincides closely to where that plane was last seen was held on radar, last made contact. So it all fits. And as you can imagine, absolute scenes of anguish here. One of the local television stations was actually being beamed into the room where all the family victims families were and they were showing a vision of bodies in the water. Someone from airasia tried to change the channel quickly, but incredibly distressing to the people in that room. Our cameraman is over there right now and he said he seen two stretchers being taken in there, people have fainted. The emotional outpouring now is just going to be devastating for so many of them. 162 people on that flight. What happens now, john is that the search and rescue are diverting all their resources into that area. There is also a team of divers making its way to the crash site. We estimate it looks like its probably about between 100 and 150 kilometers offshore from the western side of borneo. So it may take some time for divers to get there. And also how long its going to take for surface vessels to get there. But that is now the focal point, where all the teams are 4edheaded. Miracles do occur, but very unlikely there will be survivors, past 40 hours since that plane went down. And can you walk us through the timeline of when this debris was first started and how we got to this point where there is 95 confirmation that this is debris from flight 8501. Reporter sure. The third day of the search began today at 5 00 in the morning. Five hours later the Indonesian Air force was looking in an area close to where the last contact was made with the plane and did spot debris in the water. About an hour and a half later, a secondary force flight was in the same area. It spotted more debris in a slightly different area. About 45 minutes later, a third Indonesian Air force plane spotted what looked like a life jacket. And there were other sightings of debris as well. We think that may well have included bodies. So pictures were released showing short of objects in the water, described as brown square pieces yellow rectangular pieces and other objects. This just firmed up and firmed up. As we got closer to pictures being released there was a News Conference held by the National Team leading the search and rescue who then said we are 95 certain this is from the plane we are looking for. It is obviously incredibly sad, painful moment for the families here. So many of those families are just here behind us. But the mystery is no longer a mystery. Flight 8501 did crash into the sea, just off the coast of western borneo. At this stage, it doesnt look like there are any survivors. Not the kind of information families wanted to be hearing. What has been clear i think through all of this is how authorities and even the airline tried to keep these Family Members up to date. There was a sense they wanted to tell them first before it was released to the media. How do you think this has played out with the families . Of course the Big Questions now, andrew, what happened . Reporter well as far as the what happens goes we understand that the debris will be taken to the nearest major city in the central province. It will then travel from there down to surabaya. But youre right, there was a real concerted effort to make sure that the families had information. We are now three days into this search. For a long time there was very Little Information to go on obviously. So the frustrations were going. Authorities couldnt tell them anymore than really they knew themselves. Speaking to many of the Family Members here there was a sense of frustration. Authorities tried to do their best. They set up a skype call with the head of the search and rescue operations in jakarta, so the Family Members here could directly ask questions of the chief of the search. They kept the lines of communication open with jakarta as much as they could. Theres obviously television reports, as well. There were priests brought in christian priests brought in muslim clerics brought in there were Buddhist Monks brought in to help the people. Were told there were professional counselors on hand but nothing to replace the loss and the pain and the anguish that these families have been feeling. And that has been building and building and building. Yesterday, for example, the head of the search and rescue came out to say it was their working assumption that the plane had crashed into the sea. Imagine if you are a relative how you dealt with that news. It was just an assumption but it did seem to be the obvious working assumption to make. On top of that we went for a day and a half more than a day and a half without anything being found, which kept that little hope for so many people alive. That maybe there was a miracle, maybe the plane had come down on land and maybe there would be some survivors. But as you know now, that was not the case. Its going to be very difficult now, the counseling the grieving process still has to be completed. Just a couple hours ago, airasia announced that it would be taking Family Members over the search zone. This was before we knew where the debris was. That it would be taking passengers anyone that wanted to go over that area. I suspect that flight will still be on because when flight 370 disappeared, the Malaysian Airlines were offering to take Family Members to the crash site. The only thing is we never did find out where that crash site is. Now we know where flight 8501 went down. So that flight with Family Members, likely to go ahead tomorrow. It will be incredibly painful, but you speak to psychologists. They say this is an important part of the grieving and ultimately the healing process, to see that area where their loved ones perished. So that is likely to go ahead. But it is going to be a difficult time for so many people. 150 of the passengers of the 155 on board were indonesians. And many we think, 70 or 80 were from surabaya. So the whole country is in a state of mourning and shock that this has happened. And the worst fears have now been confirmed from it. It really was a matter of time after this end of the day thee of the search that they would be looking for debris and wreckage instead of survivors. But andrew thank you. Lets go to captain desmond ross an aviation expert in sydney australia. Now were getting more information from the head of the search and rescue. Day three here is it foolish to think that anybody may have survived this . I regret to say i would not expect to see any survivors. The aircraft is clearly broken up. It would be something of a america miracle if we do find any, but fingers crossed. But it looks as though of what ive seen so far suggest, its hit the water at some speed and broken up which perhaps indicates a fall from almost a vertical dive or possibly its broken up if flight before hitting the water. We wont know that until the pieces are brought out or recovered as much as possible and examined carefully by the investigators. But its a very sad ending to an unfortunate incident. It seems to be the most likely outcome here. How long now do you think before they recover the flight data recorders before they get to the rest of the fuselage before they start piecing it all together . Not too long. I would expect that given that were told the waters in that area are only about 45 meters deep you can almost sound divers down. You can send submersibles down. So they should be able to find the bulk of the wreckage. Theyll be able to track that back and hopefully find using sonar with the ships in the area. They should be able to find the bulk of the wreckage quite quickly and its only a matter of time before finding the voice recorders. Captain ross, thanks again once they have the recorders, the analysis is quite fast. Captain ross, sorry to interrupt you. But we appreciate that. Obviously Everyone Wants to know exactly what happened to this plane. Hopefully in the next couple of days. Captain ross there from sydney giving us his opinion. Now they know where the wreckage is. And the data that comes from the debris i think thats where its key in terms of currents in terms of the depth of the ocean, and pedro is going to give us some sense of what the search and rescue teams will be trying to recover and in what conditions theyll be trying to recover this debris. The conditions there, and you think about this of course being quite shallow. Theres some disadvantages to having shallow waters. That means the currents underneath the water is going to be stronger. Theres a lot of claylike sediment built at the surface of the ocean across this region. So anything that disturbs it sends a lot of plumes up to the surfaces so thats going to be challenging to go through. But this is pausing it for you at this moment this is the area where the debris has been spotted, about six miles to the last known position of the aircraft. Partly cloudy skies across the region. Again, we have about two hours and 15 minutes before the sun sets. So put the maps in motion. This is the current moment all the storms generally out of the search zone and you fast forward through the Morning Hours of wednesday morning. A lot of weather just south of the search area which would be the debris area across this region. Notice wednesday not too bad. Things begin to part wednesday afternoon, looking at partly cloudy skies, isolated storms certainly a possibility. Thursday this is the Morning Hours, the sun comes back up it looks as if this pans out here. The operations as far as the search efforts have to be halted because of the severity of the storm lined up on thursday morning. That should be a four to fivehour period tapering off thursday around 1 00 in the afternoon. So every single day, we get four to five hours of weather where its rough and four to five hours of weather where they can conduct the efforts there. Appreciate that. It is a terrible outcome. It is very very sad. But you have to say it is a better outcome than not knowing at all. Like the case of flight 370, never knowing what happened at least at this point, what happened to the plane. So now there is debris, there is confirmation 95 certain this is the debris. The only reason he wasnt 100 certain is because he did not see the debris himself. Youre watching cnn. Well be right back after this break. Bulldog the red tags mean save up to 40 on clearance mattresses. 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They asked the court not only to find these brothers guilty of embezzling hundreds of thousands of dollars from a russian subsidiary of a front Cosmetics Firm but to sentence navalny to ten years in prison. Both brothers have denied these charges, and navalny supporters have called this process a travesty against justice. Theyre accusing the kremlin of using his brother as leverage against him, and they nevertheless say they are surprised that this verdict was not tougher. And also suggestions there may be protests later on no doubt these will be illegal. Moscow has passed laws criminalizing street protests. How do you think this is going to may out . Reporter supporters have called todays court date as a blatant attempt to prevent protests which were expected or being planned for january 15. That was supposed to be the original date for this verdict. However, yesterday, late afternoon, the court making a surprise decision to move the verdict to today, while many people have not in moscow the Holiday Season kick off on january 1. And also not giving supporters enough time to apply for the necessary permissions to protest under russian law. You need permission to do that. Nevertheless supporters are still planning a protest in moscows main square for later tonight. Likely to be an illegal protest. And we can expect a police response. Erin thanks for that update. And tony fernandez, the ceo of airasia has released a statement on twitter reading in part my heart is filled with sad nsa for the families involved. Words cannot express how sorry i am. Well have more on this breaking news from indonesia when we come back. Youre watching cnn. A nurse who was the first person diagnosed with ebola in the uk has arrived at a london hospital. She traveled sunday from sierra leone to scotland. She was hospitalized the next day. Under uk protocols, shes been admitted to a special unit. Nick rosen joins us live now outside that hospital. If thats anywhere shes going to be thats the place. Theyve successfully dealt with one ebola patient already. Any update on her condition . Reporter not so far. What we know from the hospital is shes in the high level Isolation Unit, a unit set up in 2006 designed for the isolation treatment of people with infectious diseases. William pooley a medical worker who was in west africa caught ebola, was brought back here and successfully treated several months ago. This new patient, a woman, she is the first to be diagnosed with ebola in britain. She had returned from an assignment in sierra leone. She is a nurse with the National Health service here in the uk based in scotland. She was volunteering for the save the children fund. She had gone out there to work to help people with ebola late november. She was returning, got back late sunday felt ill yesterday morning, was diagnosed early yesterday morning and then transferred here overnight in the early hours of today on a military aircraft in an isolation pod. No updates from the hospital but theyre absolutely familiar with treating ebola patients and very familiar with the isolation and containment of the disease. Thats something that both the government here and the hospital are very keen to point out to keep peoples fears down so there could be a possibility of this spreading from here. In terms of where you are, youre right in the middle of london. This is a very urban area. Whats been the public reaction to this . Of course in the United States, there was a lot of backlash to returning doctors and nurses particularly ill ones. How is this playing out in the uk . Reporter well, because William Pooley the other patient who was treated with ebola was treated here a few months ago, i think people in this area at least have certainly become familiar with the fact that this hospital is preeminent location that successfully treated the disease. So far i think today you can see the people are waking up to the realization that this is once again happening on their doorstep. Certainly there is a sense of unease among some people that aid workers who had been infected in west africa would be treated here and that could put them in danger certainly a Large Capital cities like london would be potentially devastating place for ebola to if you will to infect the public at large. But the hospital the government say theres no risk of that. And at the moment there seems to be no negative reaction that something is being held here. Theres a widespread feeling in the population here and the medical profession in particular that if the country and the medical profession can help treat patients in west africa, they should. And if they get infected then its only right and proper if you will theyre brought back here for treatment and given the best help they can get because thats what theyve been trying to do. Nic robertson there, thanks for that update. When we come back well return to our main story, the fate of airasia flight 8501. Well have the latest on the debris thats been spot and what indonesian officials have been saying. Also, the grief and the heartache for the relatives of those on board that missing flight now having the worst possible news. Well be right back. Huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Everybody knows that. Well, did you know you that former pro Football Player ickey woods will celebrate almost anything . Unhuh. Number 44. 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