Heavy consequence. The white house fully admits to ukraine quid pro quo, then tries to take it back and blame us for getting it wrong. Guess what, its all on tape. I have it. You listen for yourself. You see whos lying. And, also, which key cabinet figure in this ukraine mess is now resigning. That means he can testify. We have a top impeachment investigator who is listening closely and is here to talk next moves as we break down where impeachment and the prosecution of this president s lawyer stand tonight. What do you say . Lets get after it. Got to say it, only in the age of trump. The president sent his acting chief of staff to take on the media and he had a simple message. Yeah, we held up aid to ukraine, but we did it so they would investigate the dnc in 2016 election interference. So it was a good quid pro quo. Listen. Did he also mention to me in the past that the corruption related to the dnc server . Absolutely. No question about that. But thats it and thats why we held up the money. What you just described is a quid pro quo. It is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the democratic server happened as well . We do that all the time with Foreign Policy, and i have news for everybody, get over it. Theres going to be political influence in Foreign Policy. No, no, no. Its not about political influence in Foreign Policy. Its about the political influence used for personal gain in Foreign Policy. By the way, the dnc server gambit may be a debunked Conspiracy Theory but it wasnt a bad cover story for the president because it made his action in ukraine about something other than wanting to go after biden. But that gotcha about the quid pro quo obviously got stuck in his head. Again, only in the age of trump, Mick Mulvaney tried to pretend he never said what you just heard him say. Quote, once again the media has decided to misconstrue my comments to advance a biased and political witch hunt against president trump. Let me be clear. There was absolutely no quid pro quo between Ukrainian Military aid and any investigation into the 2016 election. There never was any condition on the flow of the aid related to the matter of the dnc server. Thats a lot of words. Lets go back to the few that answer the question. Did he also mention to me in the past the corruption related to the dnc server . Absolutely. No question about that. But thats it. Thats why we held up the money. Absolutely, no question about it, and thats why we held up the money. Listen, double speak worked well for orwell. It doesnt work in reality this clumsy cover has trumps fingerprints all over it. Just lie, deny, then point to the media and cry. But you heard the proof, and today we got more proof of what this president was up to from another diplomat whos loyal to trump but gave damning testimony about the president s intentions. Lets bring in someone who heard from ambassador sondland today, heard exactly what mulvaney said. House Oversight Committee member jamie raskin. Good to have you on the show. Thank you, chris. You and i lost a friend today and america lost a legend. Elijah cummings meant a lot of things to a lot of people, and i hope that now his passing is a reminder to people about what passion of purpose is and what brave leadership is. He was gone too soon, no question about it, jamie, but hopefully his legacy will be a lesson to all of us. Well, thank you for that. I mean, its hard times and they just got a little bit harder with the loss of our beloved Elijah Cummings, but he has been a role model to everybody in maryland and everybody on the Oversight Committee, and, really, everyone in congress who listened to him because hes shown how you fight with every fiber of your being for democracy and for the constitution without losing your humanity, without losing your decency, and without giving up on anybody. And he really showed us that as extreme and as partisan as the republicans get to keep our hearts and our minds open, that they might be able to find some Common Ground with us. So its a very sad day here in maryland, but, you know, in the jewish faith we say that the memory of the righteous is a blessing. Every time we remember Elijah Cummings, which is going to be frequently through every day, it will be a blessing to us and we will hang on very tight to his extraordinary vision and his great example. I can here elijah in my head saying, come on, cuomo, dont take up my time with this mulvaney. You know what that is. You know thats bs. You know what theyre trying to do. Its a cover story. Let me tell you what happened today. He had no tolerance and no patience for things that were obvious and that were distractions of a point. So lets honor his memory. You were in session today. You got to hear testimony from a friendly of this president. He was at a hotelier, ambassador sondland, he was gifted an ambassadorship. What did he say today that was instructive to you . Well, of course, we cannot relay the details of his testimony. I know Everybody Loves a good mystery, chris, but this is hardly an Agatha Christi novel. We have mulvaney, the white house chief of staff, coming out and admitting to the crime. Now, i think he thought that committing another crime was an alibi for this crime, but its just as an constitutional to shake down a Foreign Government for political reasons related to the 2016 election as it is relating to the 2020 election. And so the smoking guns are just piling up at this point. It all started with the contemporaneous telephone memorandum they gave us in which we basically had everything we needed at this point and now were just getting a surplus of evidence filling in the picture. We know exactly what they were up to. They shook down a Foreign Government, a vulnerable ally, in order to get political dirt or in order to support a deranged Conspiracy Theory. None of that is within their constitutional powers and all of it is an assault on the National Security and the constitution of the United States. The biden part, though, is obviously a more flagrant foul. In mr. Sondlands Opening Statement put out today he seemed to suggest that at the time i think he has a problem with this testimony, by the way. That at the time he was getting ready for the phone call and he didnt really know but much later he learned about the interest in mr. Biden. Those texts mr. Volker put out, it seems like mr. Sondland knows very well what the deliverable is and the deliverable is about biden and the dnc and giuliani, they believe, wanted as much in the statement. Is that all accurate to you . Well, again, i dont want to speak to particulars, but lets just say theres two real Service Professionals who were outraged and appalled by the shadow Foreign Policy conducting political campaigns and mixing up private agendas with public agendas. And then youve got people on the other side who are either in hiding and trying not to testify or they are rapidly trying to distance themselves from the whole trump giuliani plot. Its true, you had a cabinet memberyou had rick perry say today that shes stepping down which obviously now makes him much more available for testimony. We had heard he was going to step down last week. He denied it. Today he confirmed it. Is that of interest to you . Well, it gives me the impression that there are a lot of people who are trying to get off of a rapidly sinking ship, and if this is where we are today where weve had dramatic shifts in public opinion, the majority of americans favor not just an impeachment inquiry but according to fox news impeachment and removal of the president , where will we be in two weeks as the evidence really becomes an airtight case . Meantime, the president continues to act in completely lawless ways. The idea they will host the g7 summit he says its the Perfect Place. Mick mulvaney said they looked at different places and states and literally its like the place was built to host. I cant believe its never been used before. Well, the people were posting online about the bed bugs and the flying cockroaches may beg to differ. Even if it were the Perfect Place which, of course it isnt, it would be completely unconstitutional. Its a violation of the domestic emollient clause. Squrn and the foreign emoluments clause. He says hell never benefit. He said there would be no profits there which somehow is a distinction they think makes a difference. Which it doesnt because the constitution says he cannot accept any payments at all, regardless of whether its profits or not, and its not up to him, hes got to come to congress to ask our consent to take money from Foreign Governments. And by the way, he cant take any money from the taxpayers except for his salary, which he said hes not going to take. Thats the only thing hes allowed to take. The secret service and the state department and the Defense Department and white house writing checks for his hotels and resorts. Theyve spent 1 3 of their days at Trump Properties around the world. Theyre spending federal government money and collecting from Foreign Governments, and all of it is totally lawless and unconstitutional. One last point i would like to make, chris, because im the congressman for maryland where camp david is and mulvaney engaged in a series of slurs against camp david today where the g7 met back in 2012 when president obama was president. He said people thought that it was terrible and appalling. Nobody ever said that before. Who is he quoting when he quotes these anonymous people . Go to beautiful thurmont, maryland, and you will find the Perfect Place to bring together democratic nations of the world. And we should be the leaders of the democratic nations rather than fraternizing with every dictator and despot and strongman on earth. That is Donald Trumps real team. Save those people for the dural national resort. When youve got real democracies, bring them up to thurmont, maryland and let them stay at camp david. Its beautiful, rustic and well give you a tour of the whole city. Congressman jamie raskin, thank you very much for your remembrance of Elijah Cummings, for your perspective on where this is headed. We look forward very much to the case can you put together for the american people. Thank you for joining us tonight. Im sorry for your loss. You bet. All right. Now, lets get an fbi perspective on what matters investigatively. Right, were also balancing this. Impeachment, thats political. Whats going on with Rudy Giuliani, thats legal. So we have to entertain them both. What is learned today from mulvaney, from sondland and what you were just hearing from the congressman . Mccabe and baker next. Tmobiles newest signal reaches farther than ever before. With more engineers. More towers. More coverage its a network that gives you freedom from big cities, to small towns, were with you. 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Andrew mccabe, jim baker join us now. Thank you, fellas. Jim baker, legal significance of the admission, assuming it stands as fact, that it was about the dnc server, that was the quid pro quo. Its further evidence of the president s violation in my opinion of his Constitutional Responsibilities and he just didnt do what he was supposed to do. He is not living up to his oath of office because he is abusing his constitutional power to try to stay in office. And the evidence that he i hear that on biden, thats a clear case. But why couldnt they argue on this one . This is why i liked the argument when rudy first made it a few weeks ago. I know andrew doesnt like the argument but i got to make it. Which is, corruption is legit. You care about 2016 interference. I know a lot of people think its a Conspiracy Theory. I dont. So i want them to look into it because i think they were out to get me in 2016 and im not going to give money to a country that does that kind of corruption. Is that a good faith argument against corruption . I dont know but im not buying that because the president for a long time as has been concerned about his legitimacy, right . The notion that the russians helped him infuriates him, and so what he wants to do is try to cast a doubt about that claim and to go into the 2020 election and say, no, i won 2016 legitimately and nobody should have any doubt that i should be reelected because my first election was was, you know, perfect and great and all the kinds of terms that he uses. So im not buying that. I think it is intended to bolster his efforts to win in 2020. Go ahead, andrew. Please. Chris, lets be clear. There was no Conspiracy Theory. There was no involvement of ukraine in the meddling of the 2016 election. We know this. Every Intelligence Agency in this country has agreed with that. The president s own people to include tom bossert, his former National Security adviser, has been forcefully, publicly saying that this was a myth they were trying to punch through. The administrations focus is nothing more than an effort to bolster the president s, as jim said, legitimacy, one of his conspiracy theories that he cap take into the 2020 election to make himself a stronger candidate. It is absolutely no different than his attempt to investigate and dredge up dirt on the bidens. Its the same thing. What else, andrew, would they need in congress to make a more compelling case here than they have now . They brought in sondland today. Another friendly of trump, right . He was a big donor to him. He got gifted the ambassadorship to the eu. They brought him in to help with ukraine. He was aminimum cnimical to the ambassador there. His testimony, the biden thing, yeah, i learned about that, but much layer. Now, i dont know if thats true. Here is another layer of somebodys who is in those texts saying, yes, this was about the president and giuliani and i was told i had to work with giuliani. Well, it hurts the president on a number of levels. It further reinforces this idea that Rudy Giuliani was the architect of this entire scheme. Sondland admits that today allegedly in his testimony. Secondly, i would say its really hard to reconcile what sondland apparently said to the committee today about not knowing about the bidens and not knowing there was a biden connection to burisma when you look at those Text Messages. You have the acting ambassador of ukraine putting it in his face and sondland twice reacting aggressively saying dont call me, or putting out an auspiciou defense of no quid pro quo. Rudy says i was just doing it pro bono. Arent there rules what a public official can accept as Pro Bono Services . Even though i just heard a very clever argument. You could assume that Rudy Giulianis legal advice is worth zero, but lets say it isnt worth zero and its worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, thats well above any maximum allowance. How does that figure into it . There are a number of statutes that mr. Giuliani needs to worry about in terms of whether he violated them. Among them is something called the antideficiency act, which makes it a crime, its a federal crime for Government Employees to accept to accept volunteer services from a person. You cannot accept and spend moneys in a way that is inconsistent with what congress has articulated and you cant accept volunteer serves. And the federal employees would be committing a crime and mr. Giuliani may have been involved in a conspiracy to violate that statute. I just dont know. Hes also got exposure, as we talked about before with the foreign agents registration act and also the federal election la