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CNNW Cuomo Prime Time April 4, 2020

Promptly, says he wont follow. And says you dont have to, either. So with the masks, its going to be really a voluntary thing. You can do it. You dont have to do it. Im choosing not to do it but some people may do it and thats okay. It may be good. Probably will. Only a recommendation. Its voluntary. I wish he would think, not about his own image but, about setting an example for the country. What would people gain from wearing a mask . And why are you opposed to wearing one yourself . Well, i just dont want to wear one myself. Its a recommendation. They recommend it. Im feeling good. I just dont want to be doing i dont know. Somehow, sitting in the oval office, behind that beautiful, resolute desk, the great, resolute desk, i think wearing a face mask as i greet president s, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens, i dont know, somehow i dont see it for myself. I just i just maybe ill change my mind. But this will pass and, hopefully, itll pass very quickly. Now, with that being said, if somebody wants to most people can just make something out of a certain material. So its very welldesignated. Its very simple to do. I wont be doing it, personally. Its a recommendation. Okay . Vanity. He also refuses to even consider a nationwide stayathome order. Mr. President , dr. Fauci, last night, recommended said that every state should have stayathome orders right now. Do you agree with that . Should every state in this country have the kind of stayathome orders that we now see in places Like Washington and new york . The governors know what theyre doing. Theyve been doing a great job. I guess were close to 90 anyway. And states that were talking about are not in jeopardy. No, i would leave it to the governors. I like i like that from the standpoint of governing. So i guess i, alone, can fix this. That has gone somewhere else. Dodging responsibility. Even though at least 96 of People Living in this country are now under stayathome orders. More and more states, finally issuing those orders. Alabama and missouri, tonight, ordering residents to stay home. That leaves just eight states. Arkansas, iowa, north dakota, nebraska, south carolina, south dakota, utah, and wyoming. Theres at least one big job on the president s plate that he wont leave to the states, though, in the job of blaming the former president barack obama. If you were preparing for a pandemic, if this government were preparing for a pandemic, why is it we dont have enough masks . Administrations gave us very little ammunition for the military and very little shelf let me just tell you. You know it. You know the answer. The previous administration. The shelves were empty. The shelves were empty. So what you should do is speak to the people from the previous administration, jim, and ask them that question because the shelves were empty. So he overtalked jim there. But here is the point. This president has been in office for more than three years. If he had really prepared, remember, he has served now almost a full term, there would be no need to blame the former president barack obama. But this president s gaslighting has worked so often for him that he and his base can live in an alternate universe. Remember the alternative facts . A universe where everyone is shocked when a virus does exactly what viruses do. Viruses spread. Viruses go viral. Bl blows your mind, doesnt it . And on top of all that, it was his predecessor, the one he is blaming tonight, whose people actually trained the Trump Administration on how to respond to pandemics. This is retroactive responsibility. The buck stops with obama instead of the buck stops here. Thats the new trump motto. And then there is this dogeatdog answer to the question of whether new york, with well over 100,000 people sick with the coronavirus, will have enough ventilators to keep people alive. Governor cuomo was saying new york may be days away from running out of ventilators. Can you assure new york that going into next week, that theyre going to have the ventilators that they need . No, they should have had more ventilators at the time. They shouldve had more ventilators. They were totally under serviced. Were doing our best for new york. You know, we have we have states. We have a lot of states. We have territories, too. But we have a lot of states that have to be taken care of. They shouldve had more ventilators. That is brutal. And, in this time of crisis, weve got to call out our leaders right now. Members of our government. When they dont when they arent telling us the truth. Heres the case in point. The president s soninlaw and Senior Advisor Jared Kushner. I want you to listen to what he said last night about the Strategic National stockpile. The notion of the federal stockpile was its supposed to be our stockpile. Its not supposed to be state stockpiles that they then use. So we are encouraging the states to make sure theyre assessing the needs, theyre getting the data from their local local situations. And then trying to fill it with the supplies that weve given them. Boy. That is absolutely not true that the Strategic National stockpile is just for the federal government. And whats up with kushner calling it our stockpile . Its our stockpile. It belongs to the people of the United States. And the proof of that comes from our own fact checker daniel dale. I want you to listen to what he said after kushner made that totally false Statement Last night. Daniel, kushner also said today that the Strategic National stockpile is not for states to use. What is the truth here . Im on the website, right now, staring at my computer screen, of the Strategic National stockpile. And this is what it says, don, on its first page. This is the intro. The stockpile is a large supply of lifesaving pharmaceuticals and medical supplies for use in a Public Health emergency, severe enough to cause local supplies to run out. And then it goes on to say, when state, local, tribal, and territorial responders request federal assistance to support their efforts, the stockpile ensures that the right medicines and supplies get to those who need them most. You need to know this. It gets worse. Okay . That website daniel dale mentioned last night, by this morning, it was changed to match what Jared Kushner said. You see, what kushner said wasnt true. It was, in fact, false. So they changed the website in order to make it match what he said. To cover up for him. This administrations attitude, dont come crying to us. Dont ask us for things when you know that when you dont know what you have in your own state. Just because youre scared, you asked your medical professionals, and they dont know. You have to take inventory of what you have in your own state. And then you have to be able to show that theres a real need. Just because you are scared. Have a heart. Heres what the president says tonight. We have a stockpile. Its a federal stockpile. We can use that for states. Or we can use it for ourselves. We do use it for the federal government. We can use it for ourselves . Who who is that, exactly . Does this president , this administration, even know how our Government Works . And as far as his insistence that nobody could have seen this coming, a lot of people actually did, including his own secretary of health and Human Services, alex azar, who said this at a biodefense summit a year ago and i quote here. Of course, the thing that people ask what keeps you most up at night in the biodefense world . Pandemic flu, of course. I think everyone in this room probably shares that concern. The president was asked about that tonight. Your own health and Human Services secretary was aware that this had potential of being a very big problem around the world. A pandemic of this nature. Who dropped the ball . Well, i always knew that pandemics are one of the worst things could happen. Well, then, you shouldve prepared. You had ample warning. The bulk of a full term as president. The buck stops with you. Our chief Political Correspondent is dana bash. Our White House Correspondent is kaitlan collins. They, both, join me this evening. Good evening. Dana, big news tonight is the cdc recommending face coverings in public. But president says that he wont be wearing one. So masks, optional . Look. This has been so incredibly confusing. And the Surgeon General himself admitted that. Said that word, confusing, from the white house podium today. I was just communicating with an Administration Official who said theres just no way that the president will wear a mask. A couple of reasons. But, on the practical side, what they insisted, the white house, is that the recommendation right now, the new one, is intended to do is to prevent asymptomatic people who have the virus from spreading it to one another. Hes gotten tests, so he feels comfortable that hes okay. That thats a different question from the one i think youre alluding to here, don, which is leadership by example. And that is, obviously, not something he is willing to do. But it does come this whole decision comes after a very, very intense debate. Weeklong debate. Anthony fauci said right on cnns air last night was pretty intense about whether or not to change the guidelines. And there was some resistance at the white house. Kaitlan, a source is telling cnn that the cdc felt pressured by the white house to draft these guidelines. What can you tell us about that . They told our colleague nick valencia that they would have rather waited and made sure this is the guidance they wanted to put out because initially, what you heard the Surgeon General say was that was the best guidance they had at the time when, in early march, he was telling americans stop buying masks. Its not going to help you. Now, officials at the cdc say they felt pressure to put this guidance out. That they actually wanted to wait and see. And that comes after that very heated debate inside the west wing over what to do over this. Because you had officials telling the president that he should put out this guidance, that it will help stop the spread of the coronavirus. And you have other people telling the president its going to lull americans into a false sense of security. Theyre not going to listen to this clothonly mandate and said they are actually going to go out and further threaten the supply of these medicalgrade masks. So thats the question. But, obviously, the larger question coming out of this the president saying hes not going to follow it is does his own action undercut the guidance from the cdc . Because a lot of time people take cues from the president. So this National Stay at home order after dr. Fauci called for one, why is the president ignoring experts opinions here . Thats for you, kaitlan. Thats a really good question. Thats thats thats a great question because you saw fauci, on cnn just last night, saying he doesnt understand why there are states that have been reluctant to do this. Belatedly doing this. My home state of alabama finally doing it today after a lot of urging from other officials they should be doing it. I think the president realizes they cant tell governors what to do in this situation but what the president says has a lot of weight on these governors. And i think nine of these governors who have not so far done this are republican governors. So it has even more incredible amount of weight on them. So what the president says matters, as we saw with floridas ron desantis this weekend. Cited the president s demeanor at that briefing. But for right now, he is giving cover to these governors saying its up to them to make the best decisions for their states. And it comes, you should know, behind the scenes, Health Officials are telling the president they think all states should be following the same mandate. Not just a patchwork of certain states doing certain things in the medical experts opinion. Go ahead, dana. If i may, i mean, i think what kaitlan said, i know, is exactly right. And if you just kind of look at what she said from the other side of it, which is, that the president is giving these governors cover. The flip side of that is that the president doesnt want to be the one to tell these governors, all of whom are governors of red states for whom, you know, many of whom the governors and, more importantly, the majority of constituents think of it for the president of the United States to be putting this kind of using this kind of heavy hand on their states. You know, the other thing that you need to keep in mind is that, at the white house, at least i talked to a senior official tonight who said what will we do . Will it be martial law . Which is a good question. How do you implement that . But it doesnt have to be an actual executive order. It could be a real use of the pulpit. The president standing at that podium for so many hours combined this whole week and the past few weeks. He could just say if it were me, i would do it. I think its important to do it. Just use his rhetoric, which is so powerful, as any president s is, but he doesnt want to do that for a lot of reasons. But the fact that theyre red states is something to keep in mind. Its interesting to me he continues to blame the lack of ventilators, kaitlan, on and equipment on govern. Take a listen to this. We have a federal stockpile and they have state stockpiles. And, frankly, they were many of the states were totally unprepared for this. So we had to go into the federal stockpile. But were not an ordering clerk. They have to have for themselves. So he keeps using this ordering clerk line. I mean, what is this ordering clerk . What is that . Why doesnt he see the power the federal government has here . I mean, as dana was saying, he doesnt see the power of his pulpit. Maybe he does. But he doesnt see the power of the government when it comes to the ventilators,as well. Whats happening . Yeah, and the other week he was saying were not a shipping clerk for these states. Though, he has said time and time again when these states do need backup, they will be there. But as we know, the federal stockpile is depleted on ppe gear and on ventilators, they basically only have 10,000 left. That is not the numbers we have seen governors say they are going to need going forward. They say its pretty much, basically, a way for the president to deflect criticism of the federal government in this situation. And you have seen that play out with these governors, where there are certain governors who criticize the federal government. Say theyre not getting what they need. And then the president comes out and says well they shouldnt be relying on us for everything they need. And then Jared Kushner says the National Stockpile is our stockpile, not the states. Even republican senators disagree with that. Cory gardener said today he didnt know what kushner meant by that because the stockpile belongs to everyone, belongs to these states. Thats the purpose is to help back these states up when they need it. So much like the guidance about the stayathome orders, its really a way for the president to be able to leave the responsibility up to the states. So if they dont have what they need, then it could fall on the states shoulders. If they dont issue stay at home orders, it falls on the states. And its really notable, don, the president has said he is a wartime president , though, very often we have seen him deferring to states for matters like this. I mean, where would the stockpile go to . Family members and friends . When he says ours, i dont understand. Arent states part of the United States and people citizens of the United States . The whole point of having a stockpile, don. The whole point of having a stockpile is for the federal government to use it for for the states. I mean, no matter what it says in the on the website. No matter how its changed to, you know, match what Jared Kushner said last night, thats what its for. Full stop. Yeah. Thats the issue with, you know, having your kids as your advisor. All the best people. Thank you. I appreciate it. The cdc now recommending americans wear nonmedical grade masks. My next guest, a top doctor and former Vice President cheneys cardiologist has some thoughts on that that you really need to hear. Thats next. But when allergies and congestion strike, take allegrad. A nondrowsy antihistamine plus a powerful decongestant. So you can always say yes to putting your true colors on display. Say yes to allegrad. [announcer] at custom ink, we believe community is about having a common bond wherever you are. To putting your true colors on display. Now, when we need to stay apart to stand together, weve built new tools to make and individually ship custom gear to group members, and soon, well stand together, together again. Visit customink. Com today. Americans wear nonmedical grade masks in public, as officials report the most deaths in one day, from the coronavirus. More than 1,400. President trump saying that new guidelines are voluntary, and that he wont wear a mask. Joining me now is dr. Jonathan riner of George Washington university hospital. He is the cardiologist to former Vice President dick cheney. Doctor, im so glad youre here. Thank you so much. These are important times. A lot of people are watching. They want good information, and you are here to supply it. So thank you for joining us. I really appreciate it. My pleasure. You doing okay . Yeah, im doing fine. Thank you. You say this is a watereddown recommendation and it comes down to the fact that the Administration Knows that there arent enough masks. Yeah. You know, this is really a a halfbaked, completely inadequate, half measure that comes weeks too late. Look. I think the bottom line is the reason why we havent had a firm recommendation from the cdc for people in public to wear masks is very simply, and very sadly, that we dont have the masks. Don, if you look at how testing was rolled out in the United States, the firs

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