Whos in charge of planning and testing for us on the federal level . Heres a hipnt. It aint trump. It aint fauci. It aint birx. How do we not even know the name of the beperson who has our fat in his hands . Together as ever as one. If that is the key, it has to mean one fate and one concern. That concern, who will keep us safe. Lets get after it. The numbers are going to change, but theyre already scary. 30,000 lost to this virus in just 6 1 2 weeks. Were still playing catchup, and now theres all this talk about reopening, but no real plan for how to do it while keeping us safe. Testing. Tracing. Treating. Who even does it . The virus and the fight is hitting families al over this country harder and longer than expected. We here in casa cuomo are living that reality, so i hear you and we will make sure that your concerns are known to the people in power. Just today, some of the countrys Business Leaders were convened ostensibly to move public sentiment toward reopening. That was the play, but they said what anyone who knows anything has said, you want to open the economy, you want confidence with consumers, you better be able to keep them safe. Testing. Testing. Testing. Thats what they said. Its why the mayor of los angeles now says large gatherings, sporting events, in the immediate future, no way. Not in l. A. Until maybe 2021. Now, what does that mean in another state like new york . Is this the new reality . Lets get straight talk. We have the governor of new york, andrew cuomo. Good to see you, big brother. Good to see you, little brother. You good for reality check . I want to try to nail down some of these things that are going on. Yeah. Lets start with the reality check, but lets start with the our own reality. Okay . Your appearance suggests you didnt have the best day. Your buttons are undone. Your shirt is a little tattered and wrinkled. How are you doing . Hows it going over there . Wasnt a great day, huh . First of all, thats a cheap shot. And, you know what, it wasnt. Yeah, looks better. Not great, but it looks better. Thank you. Ill take anything better right now. Ive had my own common. We have another common aspect of this, you know well, youve been telling me all day, families all across the state and the country are experiencing. Its very rare for a family to be one and done. Christina now has covid. She is now positive. And it just breaks my heart. It is the one thing i was hoping wouldnt happen and now it has. Yeah. Well, look, its something we something we talked about, right . When this first started. Its very hard for a person to quarantine in a home and other people not to get infected. Thats why we talked about people who quarantine in hotels. They quarantine in a hotel room. The food for 14 days. The food that comes in, they dont even take the plates out for 14 days. I mean, you want to talk about intense quarantine, right . But to do it in a home where a persons bringing you dishes, bringing you food, even if theyre wearing a mask and gloves, you know, that virus can live on some surfaces up to two days. So, in some ways this was inevitable. Luckily, it was christina, not one of the kids. Now, this is what families are dealing with, right . The point of you communicating this rather than just taking a couple of weeks off is youre communicating to americans what this is like. And, by the way, this is what its like. One person gets the virus. Other people in the home get the virus. You now have a mother and father with a virus. You have three kids that you have to take care of. This gets very complicated very fast. So there is a reality to this. The good news is, look, to the extent you think maybe christinas going to blame you for this, this is a lot yep. Of other things we know she can blame you for so this is going to be number 17 on the list. That is true. So i wouldnt worry about that. Youre going to be Getting Better soon, right . Because you have to be getting to the tail end of this thing. So youll be up and youll be strong. And, look, for the kids, when all is said and done, i dont think this is a bad experience for them to go through. You want to talk about growing up a little bit and seeing reality a little bit, bella will step up. So its all going to be fine. I know it makes a bad situation worse, but its all going to be fine at the end. Look, you know, just to be a little more transparent here, obviously, ive been a little bit of a mess about this today so ive been talking to andrew about it a lot. The person who is not upset is christina. Christina takes everything in stride and so far were hoping a lot of this aneck do anecdot anecdotal. She lost her sense of smell and taste. This is not science. But anecdotally, the cases i hear about that are more mild tepid to have that. I didnt have that. I didnt lose and my friends whove had the long fevers like i have and the bad chest aspects, most of them didnt lose sense of smell. Thats more about hope than it is about, you know, anything hard in terms of fact. But you andrew is telling you the truth about one thing. My 17yearold stepped up. The kids stepped up. Because mom is the core. Right . I mean, when mom goes down, you feel it. And they have stepped up. Theyre helping each other. Theyre more quiet. Theyre focused on her. And hopefully it makes the family even stronger. But i got to tell you, its tough. It really makes me understand how people are dealing with so much and so much more than we are all over the place and for a long time. Youll get through it. Youll get through it. All right. So lets do this. Lets talk about getting through. Reality check. Who has the power to reopen new york state . The president said, me. You said, nah, nah, nah, youre not the king, youre president. He said, okay, okay, but i give cuomo and the other governors the power. He said, not really. Today he said, yeah, really, because i have all the power. Where are we . I dont think i said nah, nah, nah but i think what it sounded like. The essence of what youre saying is to you, thats what it sounded like. But i said 10th amendment, i said states rights. I said the states have clear Legal Authority when it comes to issues of health and quarantine. That was the prince case. It was a new york case. 1992 new york versus United States. So, its clear on the law, and i did establish that when the president said it. The president said he had total authority. Thats not legally correct. Im a governor. I represent the people of the state. Other governors all across the country said it. Governor lamont said it. Governor pritzker said it. They all said it. Democrats and republicans. So it was important to establish that basic legal fact. Its the governors power. I think the president walked it back as best he could and he basically said, okay, its the governors power, but hes going to talk to the governors or something which was look, at the end of the day, its fine because he said its up to the governors and its up to the governors when the governor will open their state and thats true and thats the law. And it is up to the governor and but what the states are in a different position, chris. I hear you. But lets say he goes bad on that and he goes, no, im going to reopen right now. Can you take him on . I mean, lets im not baiting you. I believe you about not wanting fights. It would be much better if this goes smoothly. But this guys a power player and hes a good one and if he says, youre going to reopen, cuomo, youre going to pay because im not going to let you keep new york closed and hurt all these people because you dont know how to get your act together. You will pay if you dont play. How do you fight it . Yeah, look, youre right. I dont want to fight. I dont want unnecessary fights. Right . This is a very important time. You have this politically charged atmosphere. Everybody is in their respective corner. Anything can trigger a political brawl. We have a political brawl in the middle of this situation, its it takes a you want to talk about going from bad to worse. So i am bending over backwards to stay out of politics. Right . Thats why i said 57 times i dont have any political agenda, im not running for anything, period. If people think is that anything, by the way, youll yreconsider . No, i wont reconsider. The answer stands. If people think theres any political filter here, then their backs are going to get up there going to go up and theyre going to say, well, somethings funny. No politics. I dont want any unnecessary fights. The president would never say, im going to overrule the governor of new york or any state because he would have no legal basis whatsoever. So, he will never get there. Obviously, if you put a governor in a corner and he poked him with a sharp stick, the governor would say, i would say, im not going to put the welfare and health of my people in danger, but he would never go there. I would like to see him poke you with a sharp stick, by the way, just as an aside. I know you would. I actually have i never doubted that. I would pay to see that, actually, raise revenue for the state. I know. I know. Yeah. The idea of his ability to do it, okay, lets say youre right. Weve seen him do things he didnt have a legal basis to do before. He says might makes right. We have a bigger problem. Okay . All the plans and phases, well do this, im going to push the states to do it earlier, its all neglecting the reality that frightens us almost. Testing. He says we dont do the testing, its on you. You, the governor of connecticut, new jersey, illinois, ohio, you all say, were not prepared to test, we cant handle the scale. Can you open anywhere, anything, if you cant do testing, tracing, and treatment . Yeah. Thats a legitimate issue. I knew you would get to one sooner or later. Look, the way i think of it is, when is this over over . Its over over when you have a vaccine, right . Because then people know the virus is dead. Thats 12 to 18 months. So the question is how do you get from here to 12 to 18 months . Maybe theyll come up with a medical treatment, convalescent plasma, et cetera. Maybe. Otherwise we have to get from here to 12 months, 18 months, and we have to start to phase in the opening of the economy while were watching the Public Health consequence and number of hospitalizations, et cetera. Testing is the best mechanism for you to get your way through this 12 to 18 months. Now, why doesnt the president want to go near testing . Because testing is a quagmire. No one can do it. No one can bring it up to scale quickly. It is very complicated. I have spent days and days on this. Government doesnt really do testing. Its really a private lab function. To now take testing and ramp it up to where you have to bring it, chris, is an impossibility. Right . The wait, help me understand, we have they dont have equipment, they dont have we got to take a break, but this matters too much, so lets go to break on this. Help me understand because when people hear you say, nobody can do it, why . Why is it so hard . Is it about not having enough tests . Not enough people . Not enough labs . Why cant america do it when we can do everything . Yeah. Its all of the above. Its all of the above. We look, can we do it . Can you yes. Can you do it in one month . Well, no. So, everybodys reaction is, hands off because this is now going to be the blame game. Well, there wasnt enough testing. Whos to blame . Thats why the president said 11 times after i said 11 times the states cant do the tests. Right . Youve never heard me say, im not capable, i give up. I dont like to say it. Its not who i am. Its not what i believe. But i said it because i want to make sure were clear, i cant do it. I cant bring it to scale. This gets very complicated. It was all of the above. They dont have enough manufacturing equipment, they dont have enough files, they dont have enough swabs, they dont have enough machines. The private labs dont have the capacity. They need testing agents that dont even come from this country. Theres a whole International Supply chain to this. So, to grab hold of this is very problematic and we just went through this situation of how do we build ventilators in 14 days . Right. And that turned out to be very complicated. So, this testing is now what ventilators was in this new phase. And i said i cant do it. The president said the states must do it. The states are saying, we cant. This has to be justified, this dispute. And its not even a dispute. The truth is, nobody can do it well. You cant bring that industry to this volume, this scale, nationwide, but we cant have 50 states whats happening now is im competing against all the other states for those private Sector Companies that have some capacity. So im trying to buy tests. I called governor pritzker. Theres a company in his state that does illinois. Tests and theyre one of the leading companies. I said, you know, how do we do this . I dont want to compete with you. But every state is now competing for it. And the federal government. And this is madness. We did this with ventilators. It cant be 50 states scrambling and bidding for the same product from the same Ten Companies in the country. It cant be that. All right. Lets take a break because, look, this is very sobering because whats the difference between ventilators and testing . Well, vent laters is for a very discreet part of the population that so far hasnt burst, but all of us need the testing equipment. The reach has to be complete. 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Thats why centrum contains 14 key nutrients to help feed your cells, nourishing your body inside and out so you can focus on what matters most. Centrum. Feed your cells. Fuel your life. All right. Were here with governor of new york andrew cuomo. A sobering discussion about how testing is everything. Quick question, admiral jerwa, okay, hes the official in charge at hhs for doing all the testing. Ive never interviewed him. Ive rarely seen him out front. He is in charge of the most important component. Have you had any back and forth with him . Is there any kind of, you know, interconnectedness on that level . No, ill take your word that he exists, but i wouldnt know otherwise. Well, governor of new york, and im not calling this about ignorance, im talking about this process is not where it needs to be, big brother. Economically, are you doing your budget right now, how big a bite has this taken out of your state budget, and what will that mean in terms of needs and your ability to deliver on bigger needs than you may have ever seen before . Yeah. We actually got the budget dont, but i wouldnt suspect that you would know given that youve been sick and in your basement for two weeks. The budget, we about a 10 billion to 15 billion gap which is all the money in the world to us. Its been devastating to the economy. Thats the oather part of this equation. The federal government says its up to the states. The states should do this, the states should do this. The National Governors association, nga, chairman is a republican. Im the vice chair, democrat. We sent a joint letter saying to the president , weve been cut out of the other federal bills, you expect us to do anything, we need funding as a state because otherwise we cant do any of this. You say cut out. He says what are you talking about . Hes like, i gave you the most amount of money of anybody. No. He didnt give the State Government the State Governments got cut out. What they did was it was political pork barreling. Especially on the senate side. Theyd give every state that has a senator, winds up with a big chunk of money, whether it has to do with covid or not and proportionality or not and they fund funded entities in the state, hospitals, this entity, this entity, but they didnt give any money to the State Government, so then i had to cut all sorts of funds and i dont have any money to implement any of the things were talking about. So, look, its not you dont pick up a lot of political chits giving money to a State Government. The politicians dont want to do it. But thats the responsible thing to do and ive made that point abundantly clear, i think, to my delegation. His criticism is you asked for too much. Cuomo sauce on the phone, give me, give me, give me. He didnt need it. Didnt need the hospital ship, didnt need the ventilators. Didnt need the beds. We gave it to him, anyway, because im a nice guy. True . I dont think he said exactly that. I guess the basic message that was the gist. Just answer it. You say it in a more provocative tone. Im not going to raise to the bait from you, for anyone. Im not in a fighting mood. There will come a time when i may be in a fighting mood, but that is down the road when were over the bridge yeah. A cool dude in a loose mood. Is that you . Cool dude in a loose mood. Dont you forget it. What a dont sweat. I said everything makes you sweat. Its called the fever. But, anyway, the president did say, i asked him for help. He was right. I did ask him for help. He is the federal government. And we were afraid of going over capacity in the hospital system. He brought in the army corps of engineers. He did it quickly. They did a great job. 2,500 beds at javits. The u. S. Navy ship co