Hyacinth. There, i did it. Hyacinth. The hyacinth foundation. And i heard you nail it in the break. So, you know, this tv thing, youll get used to it. Some day. Youre just one of the legends of broadcasting. You are the man. And thank you for helping us remember the toll that this virus has taken on us, nobody does it better than you, pronunciation aside. Coop, have a great night. Thanks, chris. Im chris cuomo. Welcome to prime time. Look, its unacceptable for the president to be doing what hes doing right now, playing feelings over facts. Trump says, the young are in great shape. We have 150 kids with mystery illnesses potentially related to covid in new york state alone. We dont know why this is happening. We dont know the correlation between them testing positive for covid or not. They thought it was kawasaki, now they say its Something Like kawasaki. They dont even know how to treat the cases. The reason the president is gaming you this way is because in politics, feelings beat facts very often. Thats why almost every state in this country is reopening somewhat, despite the fact that none of those states meet the cdc guidelines to do so. That means governors like andrew cuomo of new york, my brother, are going to lose the battle of facts over feelings and theyre going to reopen ready or not. What does he think of that proposition . Hes here to defend his actions and the reality in his state tonight. We also have more new information on the georgia shooting, okay . Last night, remember, we talked to the man who owns this house where Ahmaud Arbery was seen on the 23rd. But this is not the Surveillance Video that matters the most. There is another Surveillance Video. We have it. There is a 911 call that went with that Surveillance Video that happened almost two weeks earlier. Weve been saying from the beginning the reporting strongly suggests that this case is going to come down to what the mcmichaels thought they knew about Ahmaud Arbery. That is now clearly what this case is about, and we will show you why. All right. Were going to give you new information. Were going to talk about the state of play. More real information, the better. Lets get after it. All right. Joining us now is the governor of new york, andrew cuomo, big brother. Good to see you. How are you, little brother . Ooh, listen to you, looking a little beat up, gov. I told you this was going to happen. I told you you were going to get fired fighting back the tide of feeling. People want to reopen. Theyre desperate. Its taking too long. They dont want to wait for the numbers to come down. Told you last week. Im not tired, chris. Its just some of us work more than one hour a day. And feelings dont beat facts. They dont beat facts. I understand how in politics people respond to feelings. But feelings dont beat facts. Look at what ive been doing from day one with the briefings that im doing. Only facts. People are starved for facts and information. They dont want spin. They dont want the hype. They dont want all this political filter and rhetoric. They want facts so they can make their own decisions. And thats what ive been doing here in new york and people across the nation are watching. So they do want facts. And facts win in the end. I understand you can pander to feelings. But the facts win. If the facts are winning, then why are 48 states opening right now to different degrees, including your own, even though no one meets the cdc guidelines to do so . Well, i cant answer for other states. There are states that are opening that dont meet cdc guidelines. All of them. All. Okay. How thats happening, thats a political question. Its been left up to the governors. Theres a very Strong Political sentiment to open up. And people are frustrated. Theres no doubt about that. And you have to open, because you cant survive this economically for a prolonged period of time. But that doesnt mean you deviate from the facts. What were doing in new york is, we have the most factdriven, datadriven reopening plan in the country, period. Seven criteria, all based on the facts. No region opens unless they meet the factual thresholds. Thats whats going to govern us. Its whats governed us from day one and will through this pandemic. How do they meet the factual threshold when you are strapped for test and unable to test in any real comprehensive way anywhere in your state . Yeah, what you said is just not a fact. If it were a fact, you would be right. Where is it wrong . Im going to explain, if you let me finish. We have ten regions in this state, right . And its very different, of course, this state. West worst cases in new york city, the worst in the United States, worse than some countries. We have regions upstate that are more like Rural America where the numbers are dramatically different. So we do it region by region. And every region must hit numerical thresholds. The cdc put out preliminary guidance, theyre supposed to be doing followup detailed guidance, were still waiting for that. Decline in cases for 14 days, Surge Capacity in hospitals, Surge Capacity in icu units, enough ppe equipment, tracing and testing. That operation has to be in place. Can you know for a fact whether or not cases are rising or falling . Yeah, we will not open a region without the adequate testing in place. Do you have it in place already . The Coronavirus Task force well, no region can open before this friday, may 15. And any region that wants to open on may 15 is going to have to hit all seven of those criteria, including the Testing Capacity and tracing capacity. Do you think any will hit the all criteria . Yes. Yes. They will be able to test to a level of sufficiency that the people in that region will know whether or not doing certain things is safe . Youll be able to test people frequently enough . Yes. The white house Coronavirus Task force put out guidelines on what they thought adequate testing was. Its about 30 per 1,000 residents. That number of tests will be performed by that region for that region to open. Theres then a threshold of how many tracers have to be in place. Here we have former mayor Mike Bloomberg who has been fantastic, working with johns hopkins, putting together the most sophisticated tracing operation in the country. So that will be for each region, in place. Otherwise they cant open. Yes, sir. Okay, good. Thank you for that, thank you for the recognizing of whats happening in different regions, because thats what people are going to watch. My pleasure. Take it easy. And by the way, what you do in your pressers are not all facts. You said today some people are never happy, some people like that in your own family. Who in your own family is never happy . I dont remember. I bet you dont, ill refresh your recollection during the break. Nancy pelosi is putting forward a new bill in which there is plenty of money for state governments, not just for testing and tracing but money to fill shortfalls. Are you satisfied with the massive amount of money in that bill . I think the house put forth a very smart bill and its in the right direction. Look at what weve done thus far, stimulate the economy, competence for coronavirus. We gave a lot of money to businesses and rich people. Who did we not fund . Police, firefighters, schoolteachers, health care workers. All the heroes of this situation. You turn the television, you see all these commercials, hail the hero. Washington needs to understand it, thats who gets funded by state and local governments. You know how much state and local governments have gotten . 3 trillion theyre proposing. Is that enough . 500 billion, but you round up a little bit. It says 3 trillion for the states. Thats the total package. Its 500 billion to the states. But youre close enough. Its like horseshoes. Hold on a second. Funding the state governments and local governments, i have a 61 billion hole, okay . If i dont get funding from washington, i have to reduce my budget and who i find. W fund. Who do i fund . I fund police, fire, teachers, local governments, et cetera. Plus this whole plan is on the governors to reopen, right . The governors will decide, the governors will reopen state by state. How do you not provide funding for the governors to do the reopening that the nation is arguing for . You want 61 billion. The pushback is the job of the federal government is not to make up your budget shortfall for you, if you have to make hard cuts, make them, everybody is going to have to make hard cuts, this is a hard time. Why should they give you everything you need so you dont suffer any impact when theyre not going to be able to do that for everybody . Because me is not me, right . Why didnt they say that to the millionaires . Why didnt they say that to the big corporations . Why didnt they say that to the other business corporations that they funded all around the country . So well bail them out, but police, fire, hospitals, and schools, were going to close them down. Come on, makes no sense. Lets take a break. Two big issues on the other side of the break. What about schools, k12, when do you make that decision . And whats going on with kids . The president says kids are doing great, they dont have any risk. Whats all these cases in new york . I know the governor is concerned. 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Let me shift to something that is urgent right now. The president says this situation is different because it doesnt really affect kids. Now, we did believe that, of course, in our own family, right, mario got it, so its not that kids are immune even though we hoped they were. But you now have over a hundred cases of something that we dont even really know what it is. Pediatric multisymptom inflammatory syndrome. Like kawasaki disease but not kawasaki disease. May be related to covid19 because 40 tested positive for antibodies. 60 of the sick tested positive for the virus. This is another layer to the mystery. How concerned are the Health Officials in your state . Very much. Very much. And look, this is important. First, the point is, this virus has been ahead of us all along. Its beaten us at every turn, chris. When it first started, it was coming from china. But it turns out it didnt come from china, it came from europe. And nobody even knew. And we sat here, letting europeans come, january, february, march, 2 million europeans came and they brought the virus with them because it had moved from china to europe and we had no idea. Then if you had the virus and you had the antibodies, and you recovered, you were supposed to be immune. Now theyre not so sure youre immune. Now the good news is kids wouldnt get it and it wouldnt bother kids. Now were not so sure. What were finding in new york, but you watch, its going to be true all across this country and across this world, it doesnt present as a covid case. It doesnt present as a respiratory illness which is what covid normally is. Its an inflammation of the blood vessels. And then an inflammation of the heart. And were looking at 103 cases actually in the state of new york right now. And youre right, they either have the antibodies or theyre positive for covid. And its an inflammation of the blood vessels and of the heart. And its very serious. Many of them go into the icu. Our state department of health found it first, frankly, and is talking to the other states and now 13 other states are saying, well, we have cases like this. Five countries on the globe are saying we have cases like this. And its really tricky because these are kids who may have been exposed to the virus weeks ago and have this almost delayed reaction to it. But it is frightening, because the one good news, right, was that children wouldnt be affected by covid. And now we see these cases from less than 1yearold to 21 years old. We lost a 5yearold boy, a 17yearold boy, an 18yearold girl died from this. So its a very serious situation. Anyone who says we understand this virus, we just dont. We havent from day one. We didnt know how it traveled. We dont know who it infects. We dont know what the ramifications to the infection are. And now were really troubled if you have children who might be really affected by this virus. What does this mean for schools in the fall . We saw what california did with the state universities. You have to figure out what to do with the state universities, the private universities, and play off that. But k12, what you say happens in the state applies to private and public schools, parochial schools as well. How close are you to making a decision . Well, weve said in this state theyll be closed through the academic year. We havent made a decision on summer schools yet for k12. On the decisions about college in september, were just not there yet. As i said, i dont believe that anyone really understands where we are with this virus, i dont know where we are with therapeutics or treatments. I like to make decisions, chris, when i have the facts, when i have the information. I understand schools have to plan for the fall semester, and ill be respectful of their planning period. And weve told them, come up with a plan, because how do you open a school in september . You cant have gatherings. You cant have large numbers of children in a classroom. But you cant get everybody back to work if theyre not in school k12 because people wont be able to get back to the workforce, theyll have nobody to take care of their kids and if we dont get back to work at some point, people are desperate, they are literally starving, as you know, in your state. Yeah, theyre desperate. Lets find out what is happening with this covid virus and kids, and then lets see what the answer is. And lets see if somebody tells you, well, mario and cha cha may wind up getting the virus and may have this inflammatory heart disease, and then see how anxious parents are to send their children back to school. So all im saying is, this changes. And i cant make a decision about september now, because thats a lifetime away. Fair point about the time. Thank you for that. Im glad you agree with me. Thank you very much. Lets end on this, that the facts versus feeling thing is real. Im glad you think its funny. I wa. I want to show you a clip of the president take talking about anthony fauci. It shows how feelings overwhelm facts literally by intentional assault. Reporter dr. Fauci was cautious about reopening the economy too soon. Do you share his concern . He wants to play all sides of the equation. Reporter when you say dr. Fauci is playing both sides, are you suggesting the advice hes giving you is i was surprised by his answer, actually, because, uh, you know, uh, its just to me its not an acceptable answer, especially when it comes to schools. Now, to be fair to fauci, by the way, he was never saying you cant open schools, you cant open this, you cant open that. I think the media was actually being a little unfair to him in context. But the president is playing to peoples feelings. Weve got to reopen, youve got to be back in school or youre not really open, its been too long, and thats why states are reopening, gov, because its not about the facts that theyre reopening them. Youre going to have to follow that same path if the people demand it, yes or no . No. No. Look, you are in a position of leadership, because youre supposed to lead. If youre saying i am a mere barometer, i am a windmill for emotion and i will point in whatever direction the emotion points, then you havent noticed anything that ive done in Public Service as governor or as attorney general. And i dont agree that feelings win. Dr. Fauci, who is all factbased, sciencebased, he has more credibility on this issue according to polls than anyone in the nation. I have credibility on this issue according to polls nationwide. And im all about facts. And when i do offer a political an opinion, i say its an opinion, and i pivot and say, heres my opinion, i have problems with family members. But that was a personal opinion. No, thats a fact. You do have problems with people in your family. That is a fact. They certainly have problems with you, i can tell you that. Only you. Only you. No, i like you the best. That is the harshest commentary that someone can say about your standing in the family. Im as good as you got, all right . I know, thats a problem. Governor andrew cuomo, youre dealing with very important things. I know that you dont take yourself seriously but you take the job very seriously. Thats what the situation demands. I love you. Thank you for coming on the show. Love you, brother. I love you, big brother. The covid tests. Listen. I dont like raining on our optimism, okay . Believe me, im as anxious as any of you to see more sunshine here. And the rapid covid tests, i was a big fan of the possibility in looking at the early science on them. The president loves them. Thats what theyre using on all the people who are proximate to him. But now we have evidence that they may n