Prime time. In 48 hours, some states will reopen in some way. Were back, says the president. Are we . Even if we do it unintelligently, even if we do it opening up to risk . We always knew we had to reopen. You know when they would say, to reopen or not . We knew we had to reopen, its always been about how. The question has never talked to you about how. Why . Its too hard. Why do you think . Reopen, vaccine or not. Reopen, testing or not. Reopen. Why . Because thats what you want to hear, thats what i want to hear. But thats b. S. Politics. And let me tell you something, democrats, youre getting played, too, because youre the party of no because trump is the party of yes. Reopen, yay you guys, but we have to, but we have to. That plays as no. We all have to get on the same page. It is not a question of whether to reopen or not. We have to reopen. There is no other choice. The only issue for our leaders is how. Like wisconsin . Where you have a weird legal battle and nobody wants to work with each other, because of this political b. S. Where left and right is everything and reasonable means nothing. They reopen with no rules. The wild, wild west, says the governor. No testing plan to prevent any type of outbreak . Thats where we are right now. We have to take a look at the situation, we have to look at the facts, and we have to figure out the best way to get where we want to be. Now, also tonight, that same formula applies to the case in georgia. We have new video that gives more context to what the accused thought about ahmad arbery. Were they right . We have a better answer than ever tonight. What do you say . Facts first. Lets get after it. All right. Is so the president says he knows whats going on. I want to talk to someone else. I want to talk science. Its good to have you, professor. Dont freak out, im not going to drag you into politics, i promise. Thanks for having me on the show, chris. I want to tee it up for you, because thats the challenge. Were playing the question of this false binary proposal, reopen or not . The president is on the side of reopening, and anybody who qualifies that with this nasty talk of testing and tracing, very tedious. This discussion of masks, maddening. Theyre not about reopening if theyre talking to you about those things. You fall into that camp. What do you want people to know about what the real choice is at play . When youre going out, you have to know the risks. Just like you, i want to get back out. I want to go to a bar, i want to go to a restaurant. But i want to do that safely and make sure that its data driven in the decision that we actually use. So thats where i come from when im thinking and analyzing situations about what my daytoday life should look like. What i asked the professor to do, he wrote a really beautiful piece, a study of the where and how. Its the how. Hes all about the how. I believe thats the only question for us. When you look at wisconsin, what bothers you about it elementally about something we could do, getting back to the bar and restaurant, but not how they do it why . So they went out and they celebrated. All of a sudden you end up with people in an enclosed space, and with all the data coming out with publications of farmers on the front line show where there are these large spots with outbreaks occurring, and it just seems like youll go a few steps backwards by doing this particular plan. Which is really no plan. Which is to just open up with no spacing, no covering, no kind of discretion. We see something similar when it comes to even open spaces. Indoor, obviously, is a big exacerbating factor. But even outside, the scenes in central park. Everybody wants to go outside, the seasons are changing, its getting to be beach season and lake season and park season. What is the right way in terms of how to do it . So if youre in an outdoor space, the risk drops down straightaway. But youve also got to consider what the current prevalence of the disease is in your community, and it still is quite high in new york. So if you are outside and you are in a park, we still should be practicing appropriate physical distancing between members that arent in your household. If theyre in your household, then you can sit on the same rug together. But if you are meeting up with people that are not in your household, we need at least six feet apart in order to stop these transmission chains between houses. Oddly, my 17yearold daughter says that if youre in the same household, you must be at least 15 miles away from where she is when shes at a park or the beach. So i will have to remind her of the science involved here. To the beaches. California is reopening, but they are following something that does sound like it came out of your research and your recommendations. You can go to the beach. You can run on the beach, you can run in and swim at the beach, but you cannot sunbathe. Why is that a fair compromise, in your mind . Well, again, outdoor spaces pose low risk as long as you are maintaining that social distance. You dont want to be in the spray zone of somebodys talking, somebodys sneezing or coughing, you want to keep that distance away. So going for a jog along the beach, going for a surf, just a walk poses very little risk. But when you are stationary, someone is going to come along and sit beside you, and you end up closing that distance down. I dont see a huge problem with a solitary sunbather, but were creatures of habit and we start coming close together, and you just might inadvertently break that zone, and then again start a new transmission chain from what should be a nice, relaxing, energizing time outdoors. So its distance and duration. How close are you and how exposed are you and for how long . Now, the boogie man here, were getting a break on it right now because the school year is effectively over just about everywhere. But in the fall, it will be back, and that is the big challenge. Were talking about colleges now. But k12 is going to be the big sweep, professor, because people cant go back to work if their k12ers dont have somewhere to go. How do you do that safely . My son, he wants to go to school. My daughter wants to go to school. I want them at school. And i know thats on everybodys mind. We want that answer. And, unfortunately, we dont have it. The fantastic thing that we do have in the United States is time. Were not going back to school this year, but weve got four months before School Starts back up in september. And thankfully there are countries around the world that havent got the same Disease Burden that we have, but theyre starting schools back up. We have time to get the data to make good decisions about whether schools should open in person come the fall. I know we want those plans now, but we do have time. Plan for the worst. It may be remote. But if we get great data that says children are not involved in the transmission of this, then we can go back to a normallooking it will be adjusted, but some sort of school schedule. We have time to get good data for this. And, of course, the more prudent you are now, the less cases you have carrying into the fall when you have a whole exacerbation of different factors. The way you outline what we have to take into consideration in the classroom really is sobering. It really is the worst of everything. You got the same air circulating, you got the density, you got people close to each other for long periods, you have lots of same surface touching, you have water fountai fountains, social bathrooms, lunchrooms, the transportations. They really are the perfect combination of everything we have to look at, and professor, you really do give us the best cause for optimism right now which is time. Dont rush it. We shouldnt have been rushing any of this, but thats the political part. Thats what you cannot give us an answer to and youre probably better off staying out of it. Professor erin bromage, thank you so much for being here toechblt t tonight. The best to your family and the best to you. Thank you so much for having me on your show tonight. The pleasure is mine, and i hope you got this at home. Its about how. Those are the considerations. He could say, yeah, beaches. Yay hes be a little bit more popular, i bet you. Now hes got this comma. Comma, but. But thats the big deal. The but is everything for us right now, how you do it. So whatever you think of the president s talking points on this pandemic, im telling you, hes playing it the right way in terms of how you reward your politicians, all right . He may be outmaneuvering some of his fiercest critics on this in the messaging. All right, heres the argument. The democrats are being cautious. 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I dont care about testing, i dont care about vaccines, i dont care about masks, i dont even wear one. Lets open up, im with you. Now, what are his opponents saying . What is the left saying . What are the democrats saying . Well, we have to figure out how to do this. We have to be smart, we have to be prudent about it. We may have to take more time. You have to read the different levels. You have to be going through science with this. Theyre right, but maybe theyre also wrong politically. How so . Well, lets look at it through the lens of november, and lets give this argument the best case it can have from a much more superior mind. Former president ial candidate andrew yang. Good to see you, brother. Hows the family . Its doing well, chris. Everybody is happy and healthy. Im glad you feel like youre 100 , man. I felt for you going through the recovery period. I felt for me. So its good to be back. Thank you very much, andrew. Have this conversation with me. Heres my take. Of course, you have to go through science. Of course we have to be pragmatic, but man, that sounds like youre holding me back politically. When the president says, reopen now, brother, any way we can. Lets get after it, man. This is what its all about. Back to work, back to fun. Who do you think theyre going to vote for, me or you . We all want the same things, and if you look at the polling, chris, the vast amount of americans agree that we should get back to work, but we need to do it in the right way. When you look at georgia and they say, hey, were open for business, do you know what people didnt do . Run out to bars and restaurants and think everything is 100 back to normal and safe. Were human beings. Were not just all going to say, like, the government says were open so everything is back. Everybody is on the same page, frankly, as joe biden where we want to get things open, we want the economy going, but the only way to do that, really, is to get the virus under control. Andrew, you sound like the party of no. Im the party of yes. I want to go now. I dont want to think i have to lock myself in my house because i dont know how to live my life. People are starving. Even the stipend you give to people wont hold them for long. Im not about buts. This is politics, andrew. Arent you guys a little worried that youre being put into a box by the president . Im not worried because ive seen the polls, chris. The vast majority of americans are on the same page if you look at what theyre concerned about. Number one is health, and that makes sense. Were in a situation where our loved ones, you know, our vulnerable like, i havent seen my mom in months, you know what i mean . That kind of thing. Thats what americans are thinking about. So when you say, like, oh, this is a political winner for republicans, its just not borne out by the polling. The polling supports joe biden and the democrats and most reasonable people, which is we want to get things open but we want to get things open according to the data, according to Public Health guidelines and in a way that balances life and death. But whats going on in this country right now . Andrew, you learned this uniquely. One of the first things that drew me to you as a candidate for my audience was your acro m acronym math. Make america think harder. Why . Because whats at a premium right now . Not thinking and acting. Science is fake, its all about agendas. We have to wait for them to tell us what to do. Who is going to tell us, the deep state . The guys who say dont wear a mask, you dont need a mask, touch your face . Now you need a mask or youre going to die . Thats whats going on in this country, andrew. You have it on right now on a pin on your lapel because we do not do Critical Thinking in this country, we do expedience and what is easy. Easy is reopen. I dont want to listen to yang with his party of buts and wait, wait, wait. I say do it now. One thing i will say, chris, we should never put out extreme scenarios where we know we can all stay indoors until the vaccine arrives like 12 months from now. Thats not realistic. So this is going to be a period of difficult choices and tradeoffs, and thats something that democrats are leading with, where we know its not realistic to say everyone is going to be in your home for months on end. So then we have to start thinking about what the tradeoffs are, what are the precautions and measures we can take that will allow us to reopen places of business, to be able to go out to shops again, and that includes things that most americans are already adopting around social distancing and masks and cleaning and washing the hands. I mean, were all doing it, really. Thats the key. See, thats the key, andrew. Youre saying it the right way. You guys need more yang in that gang. Because youre saying reopen. Im a businessman. I want to reopen. I want it now, yes. But like this. See, thats the key. Because whats happening politically is youre letting trump get away because hes in power, right . Youre letting him get away with the onus of power just by saying he wants to reopen. He never has to answer how. And because you guys seem to be just saying, well, we cant just do it like that, he doesnt have to say how. Whereas if you said, yeah, we want to reopen, too. We have a plan, do you . He doesnt have a plan. Hes saying testing is not necessary. Why . Testing is hard. Testing slows down your process of reopening. He doesnt like it. Masks are bad. Vaccines you probably dont need. It will disappear miraculously. I know it all sounds like b. S. , but in politics, if it feels good, people go for it. You say polls. I say ask Hillary Clinton about the polls. They change fast and they go with the flow. People want to reopen. I never thought i would see what ive seen in wisconsin, andrew. I bet you and i would have thought, theyll never do it like that. Look at wisconsin. Im sure you can go into a bar anywhere and people arent adhering to social distance guidelines and whatnot, but most americans take this very seriously, theyre not rushing back out in droves, and its going to be like that until we get testing, until we get better data. The fundamental question here really is the confidence that americans have to actually go out and feel like they and their family members are going to be safe. I think its going to be about opportunity. I think well see it here in new york. Look, wisconsin is a real lab right now about whether or not the polls will bear out or whether the opportunity will create the necessity of wanting to join in. Well see when the beaches start to open and whether people respect the rules. But my feeling is, with human nature when you give people an ability to do something, they start to do it, and prudence and caution becomes less of the equation. But well see, and i think its going to be huge in the election, andrew. Thats why i pushed hard to get you on a friday night with little notice. So thank you for taking the call, andrew. Its good to have you tonight. Ive missed you. No problem, but yeah, democrats are all about reopening. We just want to reopen the right way that looks out for people and families. Thats the right way to say it. Its about time i started hearing it from you people. Who is you people . The democrats. Have a good weekend. Best to the family. You, too. Thank you, chris. Thats why i went to yang early on when he was one of a field of gazillion. I was like, whats that math about . No, no, make america think heard. Critical thinking, what works and what doesnt . Dont play people fire suor a s. Dont hit people with tired solutions. I know the polls say we all want to do it the right way, but people want to reopen and they want as few restrictions as possible. Youll see it play out in the election. Remember