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CNNW Cuomo Prime Time May 22, 2020

Themselves. You can find out how by going to cnn. Com coronavirus. You can find out there how to help. Theres even categories to search for where you want to contribute in addition to resources for selfhelp. Gouk to cnn. Com impact. Sanjay. Thank you. I want to thank first lady melania trump, father jenkins, and all the educators who joined us tonight. Also thanks to those who wrote in with questions. The conversation continues at cnn. Com coronavirusanswers. News continues right now with chris cuomo. All right. Thank you, anderson. I am chris cuomo, and welcome to prime time. Trump doesnt want to be seen with a mask even in a place that its required and all the other competent executives have one on. Do you have to wonder why . Its just like with testing which is why theres no Real National plan. Its just like with his attacks on voting by mail, lying again about voter fraud. It is all part of the same effort to help himself no matter the risks to your rights or your health. We have the governor of michigan tonight. Thats where trump was, a state that the president is threatening to defund for trying to keep voters safe in a pandemic. She had a huge win in court today and some strong words for the president. And big news, another Major Development in the arbery case in georgia, a new arrest, someone we had on this program just last week. Wasnt allowed to talk too much, but now he has a lot to answer for. What do you say . Lets get after it. Again, tonight you only need one piece of sound to tell the story. Well, i did wear i had one on before. I wore one in this back area. But i didnt want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it. Heres my mask right now and i liked it very much. Honestly i think i look better in the mask. I really did. I look better in the mask. If he thought that, he would never take it off. Look, this isnt about the press. This is about you. Its about the country. You need to see the first example by this president showing the rest of us hes trying to keep someone safe besides himself. Lets bring in Kaitlan Collins at the white house for us tonight. Great example of the president stepping on his own good headline. This was supposed to be about ford and making ventilators and showing how america, how far weve come in that regard and how fast. Instead, he got caught up with the mask stuff and some other side issues. Reporter yeah, and chris, people inside the white house feel the ventilator issue is one of their strongest performances throughout the whole coronavirus response, making sure that people could get ventilators, ramping up that production. But that is of course not the headline coming out of the president s visit to that ford plant in michigan today. Its that he had a mask on him but said he just didnt want to wear it because of the optics. He made clear it wasnt a health thing or anything like that. He just didnt want to be seen in front of the cameras wearing a mask, even had one on him. The reasoning from the white house is that hes tested daily, something that he reminded reporters about as he was leaving the white house today. I tested very positively in another sense. So yeah. I tested positively towards negative. No, i tested perfectly this morning meaning i tested negative. He doesnt even like the word. Everything about covid scares him in terms of it being a negative impact on his own election hopes. And its in every piece of his messaging that i hear. Reporter yeah, and the thing is we know hes concerned about coronavirus personally getting it because after his valet tested positive, thats when he started taking hydroxychloroquine, that unproven drug for treating or preventing coronavirus. We know hes concerned about getting it. He is taking precautions in his mind like that that he thinks will work but he does not want to do things like wear a mask. He doesnt want to wear the mask. He doesnt like the messaging. But the people in the white house are getting tested, doing tracing, and theyre Wearing Masks. Now, this was an interesting visit to michigan because of what he had been saying about voting by mail. He met with the governor today. Well have her on right after you. But what was the spin on how he feels about the issue while he was in the state . Well, its really interesting because he did speak with Governor Whitmer two days in a row. Yesterday when he were in the cabinet room with him, he seemed to back away from withdrawing funding if they continue to mail the ballots. He said i dont think that will be necessary. But when he was asked about that today, he said he didnt say that. And he still hasnt specified which funding it is that hes threaten to withhold. Of course officials in that state are obviously concerned about that given that they are having a more severe outbreak than youre seeing in a lot of other places. But the president is pushing ahead, claiming without any evidence that he believes there is massive fraud when it comes to mailin voting even though hes only going after these democratic states. And several other republican secretaries of state have made similar moves because people are concerned about going to vote in a pandemic. There are a lot of primaries happening over the summer theyve got to be concerned about. The president continued pushing that even when he was in michigan today in the face of officials who pushed back and said the president was inaccurate in the claims he was making. Voting by mail is wrought with fraud and abuse. If youre president of the United States and if you vote in florida and you cant be there, you should be able to send in a ballot. If youre not well, youre feeling terrible, youre sick, you have a reasonable excuse, just a reasonable excuse, you should be able to vote by mail in. What do the people in the white house offer up as proof of the president s claim . Reporter none so far. At the briefing the other day we asked the press secretary about this. She just referred us to the campaign when he asked not only is he saying theres massive fraud. He says michigan is doing something illegal here and they havent pointed to what the president believes is illegal by them sending out applications to get ballots. Theyre just sending out the applications to get ballots. I will tell you several of the president s political aides and his allies on the outside realize this is a headache. They want to win michigan in November November and they do not think the president making these claims is going to be helpful to them. So, thats Something Else theyre going to have to square what the president wants, what he wants to hear, and their tactic of trying to win that state. Pro tip, when you want to win a state and a big part of it is underwater and 10,000 people have to be displaced, you should visit. Kaitlan collins, thank you very much for taking us through the days events. Appreciate it. Now, as kaitlan and i were talking the president went to michigan just today after threatening to withhold money to that state over his conspiracies about mailin voting. So, what did he say to the governors face. Governor gretchen whitmer, next. Phone bill. Y youre on tmobile, taxes and fees are included. Why cant all my bills be like this . I dont know mama. Umph with tmobile, taxes and fees are included. And when you switch your family, get 4 lines of unlimited for just 35 a line. Across the country, youll see gratitude. Communities showing support in their own way. Our way is massmutual healthbridge, a free Life Insurance program just for healthcare workers fighting covid19. So to all the healthcare workers on the front lines, thank you. This president went to michigan to show off americas ventilator capacity, but instead he made it about not wearing a mask and madeup notions about voter fraud. This is a perfect example of trump ruining his own good headline. And there are plenty of serious issues in the state of michigan to discuss. Lets get after that with michigan governor greten whitmer. Governor, thank you for joining us on prime time. Glad to be with you. First, the flooding. Fema approved federal assistance. What is the latest, and what does that assistance mean for the people who lost their homes . Let me just start with this. In the midst of a Global Pandemic we were given short notice that we had to evacuate 10,000 people. We did so without a casualty. Its really a testament to the kind of grit that people have and doing so trying to observe social distancing and mask wearing. It was really incredible to see this Community Come together. Were still very concerned about a couple of other dams and the incredible pressure that we have because of all this precipitation that weve had. But we know that this was a historic event. Its going to take a while to get back from it, but were grateful that we got the declaration declared so quickly. Im meeting with fema tomorrow. Were going to continue talking about the extent of this damage so we can get people the help they need. And so far its early and you dont want to have false optimism here, but no fatalities reported. Is that still true . At this point, that is still true and it really is pretty remarkable. I was there talking with people yesterday, and this communitys really come together, has shown the best in people in the toughest circumstances. And i think when you see footage of michigan you tend to see the protestors at the capital but this is the real story, people rising to the challenge and helping out. It was inspirational to see it. The man inspiring those protests, the president of the United States, there today. Is it really true that he didnt accept an invitation to tour the flooding . Or was it about scheduling . Its hard to believe when infrastructure is supposed to be so important to him . You know what, im not sure. I talked to him for about five minutes yesterday. He asked about midland. I told him what i saw as i had a chance to survey the damage. He said maybe if i come back sometime maybe you might meet with me there. But today he was at ford and i did not have a meeting with him, so im not quite sure to speak to the intention with regard to why there wasnt a trip today. Okay. Another Big Development in michigan, something akin to what happened in wisconsin. You go to the legislature, you say, listen, we have to extend the stayathome order. They say no. You say ill do it myself. You cite somewhat arcane executive authority. The republicans say were going to sue you. Youre overreaching. Youre no queen or king or whatever you want to call it. You went to court. Unlike wisconsin, you won. Are you surprised and what was the rationale by the court . Well, michigan was different. We have different sources of authority. I have grateful for the victory we had in court today. I know that every decision ive made and im tony evers, every decision he made was based on the best epidemiology, the Public Health expertise, and the needs of our people. Were all doing everything we can to save lives. Whether you are in new york, wisconsin, or michigan or somewhere else, i know that governors are acting because we need to, because theres not been a national strategy, and its on us to do everything we can to protect people. And i cited every ounce of authority and various places that i have as governor of michigan and i was grateful for the victory today in court. What does the victory mean for you Going Forward . Well, it means that we can stay focused on the epidemiology and the Public Health expertise as we continue to turn the dial and reengage sectors of our economy. Weve got to be really smart. Weve got to do this incrementally. We have to follow the data. We have to keep ramping up testing so that we avoid a second wave. Covid19s been devastating here in michigan. We no that because even though were the 10th largest state by population, for a long time, we were the third highest number of deaths. We still have the fourth highest number of deaths in the country. And thats why we have to take aggressive steps to save lives. What we have done has worked but we are not out of the woods yet. Obviously having the president there, he made an issue out of whether or not he would wear a mask. He played the media on that today. He says im not going to give you the satisfaction of seeing me in a mask, but i did wear one. What is your take on the politics of his mask reluctance . Im not sure what to make of it, but what i can tell you is that we just got the big three back to work this week. And theyve got strict protocols to keep their work force safe. The ford executives were all Wearing Masks. Every one of the workers in the facility are Wearing Masks. This is a place that its really important to get it right and so the workers can have confidence that theyre safe. This is a city, a metropolitan area, that has been hit hard by covid19. Thats why its so important that everyone takes this seriously. And i would appreciate it if everyone with a platform lived the values were trying to get everyone else to follow because its really important that we are following the science, were protecting ourselves, and we should all be Wearing Masks. Lets be very clear. Can you think of any good reason that the president doesnt wear a mask . You know what . Im Wearing Masks every time that im in public. I went and got a covid19 test today not because im sick or been around anyone whos sick, but i want people to know its an easy thing to do. We should all be getting tested. The more people that get tested the better. The more people Wearing Masks, the better. This is about all of us. And everyone with a platform and a responsibility and a position of influence should be doing precisely that. How effective do you think the president s message that you guys are faking it, especially the democrats. Youre faking it. Youre making covid more serious than it is. Youre keeping people home longer than you need to because you love the power and you love to suppress freedom and you think its going to hurt him in the election. How effective is that messaging in your state . When you look at how people are reacting to the stayhome orders, i know we focus on the few that go to the capital and make outrageous statements. But the fact of the matter is the vast majority of people in my state are taking this seriously. Thats how weve pushed this curve down and saved thousands of lives. The vast majority of people when polled will say we think we should take a slow, incremental phases back to normalcy, that we need to be Wearing Masks. People get it. Theyre not stupid. They understand the science. They understand how highly communicable this is and how dangerous it is. So, i think that all of this political rhetoric isnt changing peoples minds. In fact, its only confusing folks and i think making it more dangerous. Thats why i wish it would stop because weve got to focus on the science. This is a Public Health crisis, not a political problem that we have. Weve got to get it right. Quickly, why dont you see the mailin balloting or absentee balloting the way the president does which is that its too risky. Its too much fraud, its improper, and if you dont get it he may have to pull funds from you. Are you worried about that and why dont you see it the way he does . This is happening in republicanled states and democraticled states. The president himself has voted this way. All the secretary of state in michigan did yesterday was say were going to mail everyone an application to get a ballot. Thats all she said. That is expected by the michigan constitution and the people of michigan, its how we keep people safe and give them the ability to participate in their democracy. Everyone should be demanding that. Okay. You worried about him pulling funds . You know, im concerned every time i see those vailed threats or maybe theyre not veiled threats. It is concerned, of course. I dont believe that the ability to do that really exists. And im going to continue to forge ahead and do everything we know to be the right thing to do and work to make sure that michigan doesnt lose any of these dollars. We are hurting. Were hurting because of covid19. Were hurting because weve had this unprecedented flooding event. We need, as americans, to all demand that we get the support by virtue of being americans. It shouldnt matter who your governor is. It shouldnt matter about relationships. We should all be entitled to knowing that our federal government is going to protect us, is going to help us in our time of need, and that is right now. Michigan is certainly become a metaphor for the country in terms of seeing how hard covid can hit, how people respond, what they tolerate, and what it means heading into november. Governor, the best to you and your family for your health and your effectiveness. Thank you, chris. So, states are opening up. Theyre doing it in different ways. Is there already proof of the impact on covid cases . We only know what we can show. Lets see what the facts show, next. We keep saying that reopening is a must, but how we do it means everything. It could mean the difference between a blip, as dr. Fauci calls it, and a resurgence. So, lets have nick watt take a look at what we could see in the days and weeks to come. Reporter cities like houston and miami should brace for a covid come back according to new monitoring that monitors how well were social distancing as we reopen. The degree to which some areas that move too quickly or have not been vigilant with regards to individual behavior, we are starting to see evidence of resurgence. Reporter largely in the south they say, hospitals in montgomery, alabama reporting theyre nearly out of icu beds. The number of Covid Patients that they were seeing was not only increasing but that people were coming in. I think its in part due to we opened up the economy too soon. But were seeing optimism in other areas that appear to be moving cautiously. Reporter king county, washington opening slowly and the new case count is still falling. Now is not the time to tempt fate and pull back completely. Reporter right now theres a spike in south america as cooler weather nears. When the summer is over, i expect it will reground itself in the north, cdc director Robert Redfield told the financial times, says he cant guarantee there wont be another lockdown this fall. He says the truth is regularly the data is delayed. States are combining viral and antibody results potentially muddying the picture of where and how the viru

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