Now, the shame goes to the people who are writing these messages for him to read to you that they know are deceptive. They are not doing everything they can do to fight this pandemic. I thought the carnage was supposed to stop with this administration. More crime according to him now. Tougher economy. According to him now. And a pandemic that was not of trumps making, but is certainly out of control because of trumps inaction. The daily average of deaths has roughly doubled. 500 plus additional deaths a day. And the president says thats insignificant . He wont say when all americans will have access to the rapid covid test because he doesnt know, and its not his focus. We are looking at that very strongly. How do you look at something strongly . Theyre doing nothing. Why does the u. K. Have 90 minute test turnaround and capability and we dont. We are the richest country in the world with the greatest resources. That was his pitch. Maga was about manufacturing at its best. I would argue it was a dog whistle to a culture war. He wants to fight about race and religion. It is every chance he gets a chance to make it that. At its best. It was about big back manufacturing. Isnt this the perfect time to kick Start Companies . Whats worse than that inaction, his insane pushing of states to send our kids to schools that he knows are not safe. His kids not going back to school like that, i guarantee you. That is what it is too. It is unsafe to send kids to places that cant space, cant trace cases they get, and cant even test in time. Did you hear that a second grader just tested positive after attending classes on the first day of school. He and his classmates and teacher are quarantining for 14 days . How many of us are going to have to decide to keep our kids out of school . And then what. Whos going to help for the cost of so many of you not being able to work. Whats it going to do to our kids . How is it not going to result in imbalances in places where people have money where they put together these pods. Families getting together, grouping whos excluded. Who has the money to pay for extra teachers because the schools cant do the work. In america . This is the time for government to work for us. This is why we have a federal government we must keep pressing for it to do what it can. That means we can only spend so much time complaining about the status quo. We only know what we show. What can we do. Lets turn to a valuable mind, okay . Former white house obama coordinator ron klain. Not just theory, practice, they had to do this. Lets start off with the president s great defense to what is being done. He says, we test more than anyone else in the world. India has a billion and a half, they dont test as much as we have. Is that the correct answer . And proof of purpose of this administration . Well, it may be proof of a lack of purpose of the administration, the fact that were six months into this and dont have a plan at all. The u. S. Is about middle of the pack. Were pretty low in terms of per capita testing among well developed and wealthy nations the fact that the president wants to compare Americas Health care system to india. I dont think thats what most americans want to live with. We have people in this country attracting covid at record rates, dying at record rates. Were losing americans here right now at about the same pace we were losing americans in world war ii, we didnt hear fdr tell people it is what it is. Listen to the president talking about why the numbers work in favor of the argument that hes doing a good job. Take a look at some of these charts, id love to. If you look at death per its starting to go up again. Well, right here, United States is lowest in numerous categories, were lower than the world. Lower than the world. Were lower than europe. In what . In what . Take a look. Right here. Heres case death. Youre doing death as a portion of cases. Im doing death as a proportion of population. Thats where the u. S. Is really bad. You cant do that. Why cant i do that . You have to go by where look, here is the United States. You have to go by the cases. All right, lets help people understand this. Heres my simple explanation. You get into it from a policy perspective. The interviewer is saying, as a percent of population, we have too many people dying. The president says, yeah, but not by percentage of cases. Now, why is one answer better than the other . The simple explanation is, we have a Great Health Care system. The fact that were able to save people that may not be saved in other parts of the world because our clinicians our First Responders are so good, does not excuse the fact that we have so many deaths as a function of our population. Is that a Fair Assessment . It is. And there are more factors to it. The case mortality rate is higher in other countries. The bottom line is, how likely am i to die from covid. Thats the bottom line. If im Walking Around today in america, whats my chance of dying from covid. And that statistic, the one that jonathan sveum was pushing, america has one of the worst numbers on planet earth. You are more likely as an american to die from covid than you are in almost any other country. New cases of covid today in paris, texas, than in paris france. Newer cases of covid in the smallest state in the country than in the entire country of spain. Its not about cherry picking numbers that make us look good. Its just as many that make us look bad. This is about process and strategy of attack. We are testing in a way that is so ineffective. Were exposing the most vulnerable. And too many people getting caught by surprise. This president refuses to acknowledge that heres the proof. Heres one right here, the United States. Were last, meaning were first. As of what . Take a look again, its cases. Okay. And. We have cases because of the testing. You take a look at this other chart. Look, this is our testing i believe, this is the testing, yeah. Yeah, we do more tests. Dont we get credit for that . And because we do more tests we have more cases. This matters, i cant tell you how many people say, will you stop say testing is the problem . We test more than anywhere else in the world, chris, he cant do better than best. Whats the reality . The reality is, 80 of the tests are taking a week or longer to get results. That adds up to the testing total, its pretty useless. If youve been Walking Around with covid for a week, youve infected a lot of other people the fact that were so slow makes the tests for all intents and purposes pretty useless. Thats the first point. We still arent testing anywhere near enough. Because were a country thats trying to get people back to work. The president talks about getting everyone back to school. Kids are going back to school, were not going to know if they have the disease or not. We are not going to know if theyre exposed or not. Were not going to know if theyre bringing it home. Even when we test people, we dont have contact tracers to identify who that person is in contact with, so it can isolate cases and keep the disease from spreading. Were 8, 9 months into this in total. The president doesnt have a plan, he has charts and statistics and numbers. Where is the plan to get this under control . He is insisting that we test too much. And again, i am all about testing, because i think its all we have. All we have is the ability to figure out who we need to remove from society so they can heal and not make anyone else sick. Its all we have until we come up with a vaccine. He has been pushing this to great political effect that the problem is actually how much we test. Here it is. There are those that say, you can test too much. You do know that . Who says that . Oh, just read the manuals, wreeds the books. Read the manuals . What manuals . Read the books. He went into b. S. Mode to justify it. Ron, we only have a lot of cases, because were so good at measuring how many people are sick in this country. These other countries stink compared to us, thats the only we have more cases. They have a ton more cases than we do, theyre just not counting them as well as we are. They had zero cases in spain yesterday. Zero cases in france. Zero. We had 70,000. Even if were picking up more because were testing, 70,000 to zero is not because of testing. Thats the first thing. Forget the case counts. Forget all these things. Lets go to people who are dying, were losing almost 1,000 americans a day, every single day. No matter how you count the tests and the cases and the rights. Thats a death toll that is world war ii level death toll in the United States. For the president to say it is what it is, is not president ial leadership. It would be if he said, the pandemic is what it is, thats why were going to do x. The second part, its fine that you recognize it, yeah, thats what it is. Thats what this thing does. Great. Lets be in awe of it, lets attack if. He doesnt do the second part. This other point i want to make. This is one of his strong arguments why hes being unfairly treated here. I think weve done an incredible job, between the ventilators and stopping very infected people from china am coulding in, meaning, putting the ban on china. Which frankly nobody wanted me to do, practically nobody, because it was early in january. Then putting the ban on europe, not an easy thing to do. We would have probably lost hundreds of thousands of lives more had i not done that. Banning china from coming in it was already in here. Im sorry. It was already here. By the time you banned china nobody knew the extent. What is your read on it . He banned from china, a lot of people on the political left were against it, he did it, did he make the right move . Did he make the right move with europe or is the issue timing . I think its a bunch of things. 44 countries banned travel from china before we did. 40,000 people came here from china after he put the ban in place. He said it was in january, early in january that interview. It actually took effect in february. Thats just another lie, another mistake. Most of the cases we had on the east coast came from europe, not from china. And he didnt act on that until the middle of march, when the disease was already here in large numbers. All these travel restrictions were smart things to go, they should have been done on time, more completely. When he imposed the travel restriction on china, i said it wasnt a travel ban it was a travel band aid. The real question isnt about the travel restrictions, what did he do with the time the travel restrictions bought . Did he get testing running . Did he get tracing running . Did he get equipment to our Health Care Workers . We probably lost 1,000 Health Care Workers in america due to covid because they werent protected. Did he do this . Thats the shame here. He squandered with inaction. Heres his defense. Nobody knew what this thing was all about. This has never happened before. 1917 but it was totally different it was a flu in that case. Other than 1917 theres never been anything like this. You guys all missed it, fauci, birx, all the big brains said its not going to be a problem here, when it came here, they said, no, were going to be okay. Hes no different than anyone else. Thats a lie also. The senior infectious respiratory disease expert at the centers for Disease Control told reporters that the pan dem irk was coming, it was inover itable, she warned her own family to prepare for a major disruption of u. S. Life. The day after she did that, the president preventsed her from speaking to the press again. People in his own administration told him it was here, told him it was about to explode, and he did everything he could to suppress the truth, the facts, and to tell people it was going to go away. Right . It waernts just that they didnt see it coming, he was telling us, oh, its 15 cases going down to 5. Its going to go away, like a miracle. Its going to go way come easter. Time and again he was wrong, whats more, after it came and it raged, he stood there in may and june and said, everyone should reopen everything right away. After we learned the painful lessons of new york and new jersey. And we didnt share those lessons with florida and texas. Instead, he egged them on to open as quickly and recklessly as possible. And now hes doing it with schools. I tell you what, schools are different. Im a parent, i have three kids in different states of school, and im telling you, families are not going to send their kids to schools if theyre afraid of them getting sick and bringing it home. This is going to be a problem, its different than business. Its going to be a time for act or youre going to see a lot of rogue actors doing it their own way. I look forward to using you much on this show to help you understand where we are and where you need to be. What happens when government doesnt do what you need it to do. You start doing things on your own. For better and worse. My next guests are defying orders to keep their businesses shut down because of covid. Theyve already been arrested for reopening their gym in new jersey and theyre not giving up their fight even under the threat of their losing thats them breaking into their own place. Theyre not breaking into someone els. They will make the case for why they are in the right next. Re ao help you focus on your health. 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They say at the gym, they have done what they were supposed to do to make it safe the way other businesses that they are similar to in their own estimation did. And that yet they are not allowed to open, all right . This is a court battle, they could go to jail. Now you have the state ags office there in jersey recommending a fine of up to 10 grand a day. This has become more about business. I want these men to make the case, theyre representative of whats happening across this country. Ian and frank ared owners of atyllis gym, and theyre here now. How are you, fellas . Good, chris, how are you . The best case they have on you is this is about health. Its not about not liking exercise or not liking you. Its about keeping safe and you should respect that and youre not. Your response, one at a time. I would say that actually when this first started they asked for two weeks. When we first opened up, we gave them two months. At two months they had no plan, plain and simple, they had no plan, we did. We actually wanted to prove that we could open up safe. They say Liquor Stores are essential, home depot and lowes is essential, i disagree with that. Were all essential. Everybodys essential. And bottom line is, this isnt about opening up a gym. They have violated everyones constitutional rights. We all have the right to make a living. We all have a right to actually do what we want to do as americans. We are promised liberty. And they have actually put such oppressive restrictions on us, that its just unacceptable to us. And they say, they agree with you, and you have the right, obviously, but you have to balance that right with the risk to people who will be come in there, be breathing all over each other, in too tight a space. Gym is different, people are getting exercised. Its about keeping people safe. Counter . I would argue that the gym is a place to keep people safe, this is a place where people come to build their immune systems, the strength of their body on the outside and inside. This is a place where we have soldiers that have served our country where they deal with their ptsd. We have recovering drug addicts who use this as an outlet. This is a place that creates health and fosters health. How do you keep someone from being sick. I come in and im sick. Everyone knows im a fitness guy. You would not be allowed in. When you go to a home depot, a lowes, a liquor store, they dont do anything but require masks and stay six feet apart from each other. You come into our gym, you stand in front of a biometric scanner that takes your temperature. You take a pen and put it in a dirty pen so we can disinfect it. Your hand on a bottle of disinfectant that is proven to kill the coronavirus at 45 seconds. We have an air scrubber in here, a mobil decontamination unit that circulates 10,000 cubic feet of air per minute through a uv light that provides 99. 9 chemical free and virus free air. The science says that the masks dont work, plain and simple. It is a safe place to be. It is not a confined space. We have 25 foot ceilings in our gym. They have taken all gichls and considered them as one. They are not all equal. I agree. Well, the state says that too, frankly. Look, i dont agree with you about masks, but thats not what were talking about here. They say, well, no, thats not right. Weve allowed outdoor drills. Were allowing one on one indoor martial arts, yoga instruction. Ill allow you to do whatever you want outside as long as you can follow certain rules. Our governor has allowed outdoor fighting. You can full contact fight outside. Youre an athlete, you are one of the tough guys out there, if were sparring outside and i punch you in