What point they are able to make it role. Here is the white house statement on this. The president takes the health and safety of himself and everyone who works in support of him and the American People very seriously. White house operations collaborates with the physician to the president and the White House Military Office to ensure all plans and procedures incorporate current cdc guidance and best practices for limiting covid19 exposure to the greatest extent possible both on complex and when the president is traveling. That is a lot of words to explain away what we know. This president is cavalier when he goes to rallies about whether people should have masks, about socially distancing. He supposedly had his staff doing things the right way because he was worried about himself and they get tested all the time and they do Contact Tracing when there is a case. But hope hicks is often seen without a mask and now our president at a time during an election has been in close proximity to someone who tested positive. The time line doesnt make a lot of sense. Lets bring in our white house correspondent. Thank you for joining us on such short notice. Wednesday night we are told that they became aware that hope hicks was sick. So shes with the president. She tests positive after theyre together . In minnesota . Or was she tested before and they got the results and they say but she was quarantined on the plane. So that timeline is odd. You know, if they knew she had covid before, then she wouldnt have gone. If they found out while she was there, she was then quarantined. The timeline doesnt make sense. What do you know . Reporter that timeline does not make sense and were still reporting it out to figure out exactly when this test was administered because if that was the case and she didnt find out until they were already on their way to minnesota last night, that would mean theyre testing people later in the day and not as weve been told first thing in the morning basically as soon as they walk in the door if they are going to be around the president. So of course it just goes to show you that despite this white house repeated insistence everyone is fine, they dont need to wear a mask or social distance because theyre tested every day, it shows you the dangers of that. No you we have learned, you know, this is one of the closest people to the president. Hope hicks is about as close as it gets and has been constantly around the president this week, flying him to minnesota last night where you are on an enclosed airplane not Wearing Masks not social distancing but also in cleveland on tuesday night she was there for the debate. She helped the president with debate prep as he was getting ready to go there. She has been on several other trips he has taken recently all where weve seen videos of her boarding marine 1 not wearing a mask. In the west wing not wearing a mask. All of these situations that of course the main question is has this put the president s health at risk 30 days from the election. So those are the questions were still trying to figure out the timeline of exactly when this happened but we were told today the officials who had been around her were notified she had tested positive. Now, kaitlan, a couple things. One, this is information that we really should have gotten from them and before now. Theyve known since wednesday night that the president has had his worst risk of exposure yet 24 hours later and it had to be leaked out. So that is a concern. Have you heard anything about her condition and whether she is symptomatic . We are told by one source that she is experiencing symptoms. She is here back in washington were told but of course the extent of that is still not known what are those symptoms, how bad are they . But it does go to show you that it is not one of those cases where she is asymptomatic and then of course only found out because of the white house testing system. That is how it is obviously confirmed. We are told by one person that she does in fact have coronavirus symptoms. And look. You can be contagious if you dont have symptoms, what we call asymptomatic obviously. But if you have symptoms, it then raises questions, you know, was she coughing, were they in proximity when she was doing it. Again, this is not a blame game. I know i speak for you and all of us. I hope hope hicks has a mild case and her youth and vitality gets her through it quickly and i dont think anybody else should worry about anything else except the president now is on his way to wisconsin, right . Does this change that plan at all . Reporter well, those are the big questions. I mean, the president had this dinner he attended tonight, or a dinner he had scripted remarks for and before that he went to a fundraiser today and behind closed doors. We did not see the president while he was there but he was interacting with people so it didnt halt his travel schedule today to go to that. Of course he has another rally i am scheduled to go to in orlando tomorrow night and then wisconsin this weekend. Of course those rallies have raised questions given rising cases inside the state. And so this just the big question is also does it change the president s travel schedule here and does it change this Comfort Level in the west wing . Because before when we reported first that the president ial valet tested positive it threw people off. Then the top security aide. This is really close to the president and is hard to over state. Hope hicks someone who spends an enormous amount of time oneonone with the president not wearing a mask has tested positive. The white house is giving us this generic statement tonight talking about Health Precautions they take when it comes to the president but they are not giving any other details and have been reluctant to do so ever since we first reported on the valet testing positive. Theyve only confirmed other aides testing positive when the president himself has blurted it out in press briefings or has been asked about it. There is a lot we dont know and the white house has not been forthcoming about but we have confirmed this through other methods that she has tested positive and to see whether this does change things inside the white house and whether the president continues to make these trips despite knowing aides sitting next to him on airforce one could be positive for coronavirus. Were showing this group shot as they went into marine 1. Nobody has a mask. Why does it become relevant . Its not a gotcha contest. Do me a favor and stay with us and lets bring in dr. William schaffner. The reason it matters of course that theyre not Wearing Masks is now you have to worry about who got exposed to hope hicks. Especially if she is symptomatic. You can be asymptomatic and be contagious but you are certainly contagious if you are symptomatic. Now why do we question the travel schedule . First of all travel reduces your immune system especially all that flying. And we dont know who can be around him because we dont know who has it because you may not test positive right away. Am i getting the immediate concerns right, doctor . Yeah, you certainly are, chris. I wish miss hicks well. We want everyone who gets infected with this virus to get better as quickly as possible. But this is another example where it demonstrates testing does not prevent infection. They do a lot of testing in the white house but you need to wear the mask. Testing detects infection. You need to wear the mask in air force 1, in the white house at all times. When you get into these large groups whether fundraisers or large rallies, i promise you the virus is there and is being transmitted. Now, the interesting thing is, everyone who is associated with miss hicks in the recent past should be quarantined at home and stay at home and not go out anywhere. That would be routine Public Health process. Well see if it gets done in the white house. Context. Kaitlan if you identify other people but if they were with her whoever else. The close quarters crew. If they were around hope hicks and she tested positive and she had no mask on, youre saying that those people should not be by the president s side. They should be in their own homes and quarantined. Yes, doctor . Everyone who was in close contact with her recently should now be sheltering at home. Recently meaning . Within the last week for sure. Wow. The last week. Any indication from the white house that they are planning to have anyone else quarantined . Reporter no. Weve gotten zero indication of that. I should note also the fact that hope hicks was on air force 1 last night she is not someone who often interacts with the media certainly not in a public way where she would come back to the press cabin like other officials typically do but she is on the same plane with these reporters sharing the same air space and yet the white house did not inform the reporters on air force 1 that an official tested positive for coronavirus. Obviously that would typically be a protocol if you worked in any other kind of situation or if you took a delta flight you would expect them to let you know if someone sitting in row 14 had tested positive but that is not the indication we got from the white house. Of course it is raising questions about that and whether or not the other aides, some of the aides we saw getting on marine 1 yesterday we also saw going with the president today on his trip. That is another question we still have to figure out is exactly what their protocol is firstdegr going to be if anything with this. You had 24 hours they didnt say anything. We can only surmise why they wanted to keep it quiet but by doing so people who may have been exposed to hope hicks, and again, this is not hopes fault. I know people will take issue with the mask. She should have been responsible and wearing it. There is a report in the New York Times that an official says she is one of the only ones who occasionally does wear a mask but she has it now and by not telling who knows how many media or whoever else she was in contact with in the last 24 hours have gone about their own normal lives and other people may be at risk. Fair consideration or concern, doctor . For sure, chris. This is not a model of a vigorous, insightful Public Health investigation. You want to notify people immediately. Tell them to shelter at home. Well start their testing process. And watch what happens. We need to prevent the further transmission of the virus. That is routine public practice and what would be done in nashville. Were you on that trip, kaitlan . Reporter no, i wasnt. I am going on the trip tomorrow. So of course it just raises questions for our colleagues because weve been really vigilant here in the White House Press corps about this. We wear masks inside the building, of course inside the briefings. On air force 1 despite being tested also that day reporters keep their masks on when they are on the way to and from the rallies so you see a difference level of caution. As you said it is a highly contagious disease. That is what the medical experts have told us and why people say you should wear a mask even though youve got all these other precautions you just never know. That is also going to be a question of whether or not it changes that attitude. Ive been back in the west wing for a few meetings recently. People back there are not Wearing Masks because they develop this level of comfort because they get tested. This is likely something that is going to really jolt them awake to see someone they interact with and work with and meet with has tested positive. Well, look. Youre smart, young, and strong. So the chances are if you did get it youd be okay but, you know, listen to your old friend here, you dont want it if you can avoid it. Stay vigilant. Doctor, our concerns for the president. He had to have been in close contact with her period. I wont accept any other explanation. There is no way that close an adviser was nowhere near him during any kind of window that is relevant. So what is supposed to be done for and with this president . Well, if the president were a normal person they would stay at home. They would their symptoms would be monitored. They would be tested periodically. And it would be sure then to shelter him from others so he doesnt potentially transmit this infection to others. You dont know whether all the contacts including the president may have become positive because it will take a number of days before that test becomes positive. And so during that period of time, you want to take yourself out of circulation so you dont infect yet a next generation of people. Its elementary Public Health practice. And so the idea of going to rallies and having some of the same staff still moving around, new populations, is defacto irresponsible. Not the thing to do. In fact, it is exactly the wrong thing to do. Because whenever you get into a crowd, or bring others into a crowd, obviously this highly contagious virus, this is not a political statement, the virus doesnt care. This is a simple Public Health statement. The virus will spread. And i promise you in these large rallies the virus is there. Its contagious. Its spreading. Just as sure as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west thats correct. All right. Dr. William schaffner, thank you very much. With any luck the president does not get sick. We dont hear about any other cases. We dont need any more drama right now. Do you have anything else . Reporter well keep you updated on what else were learning about the timeline on when this happened and other details but so far this is what weve got that she has tested positive. Thank you very much. The timeline doesnt make sense in this situation. She went with the president on wednesday. Wednesday night they say they knew she was positive. Well assume that is true because i cant believe theyd have let her go on the trip if they had known hope hicks was positive. Wouldnt be healthy for her or others around her. When did they find out . We knew wednesday night. When did she get tested . They say they get tested in the morning. They waited all day with the kind of resources they need . Thats unusual. That needs clarification. What does that mean to all the people around hope hicks . What does it mean for the president . What does it mean if he continues to go out and they dont know whether he has it. I mean, this is one, singular leader that we have. One president we have. During an Election Year in the middle of a pandemic with social unrest and a failing economy. If nothing else he has to be healthy. This is not a time for secrets. We will stay on this breaking news. Try to make more sense of it because the timeline doesnt make sense. Okay . Now we get a window into why it doesnt make sense because often things are hidden. And often things are scripted. The way this president wants. We have the good fortune of having the president s niece to talk about what she knows about him. By the way, she happens to be a psychologist. So by training and experience, what is her window of perspective into why these things are handled this way . 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For this president to get sick especially as a by product of his own negligence making masks not a must, none of them had masks on, on the video we see of the cadre with him including hope hicks into marine 1. Helicopter small. Then obviously a massive plane but in close quarters with him. This is why it matters. This is why responsibility has to start at the top. It is not a scolding. Its pleading. Please wear a mask when your a he in proximity to people. The president s refusal to do so i hope it doesnt cost him right now. It certainly cost us. Another of the president s refusal to cover, if i get any new information on the coronavirus case ill give it to you immediately, but i want to address the president s refusal to forcefully condemn racism. White supremacy. It is now having an effect of fanning the flames of hate. The proud boys if you havent heard already literally were jumping up and down and celebrating and creating paraphernalia, swag off of the president s tacit approval of their existence within his camp. Why couldnt he just say, proud boys, youre disgusting. Youre the worst of us. I do not want you in my ranks . Why . Why couldnt he say that . Im against anyone who mistreats other human beings. Why . Lets ask someone who knows him better than any of us. She is family. His only niece. Mary trump. Just wrote a best seller on how the trump family created, quote, the worlds most dangerous man. Too much and never enough. The author joins us now. Welcome back to primetime mary. Hi chris. Thanks for having me back. So help us. You are also a psychologist. People should know that. So he has a pattern. David duke, never heard of him. Okay. Now that we just told you who he is which is almost impossible to believe that you didnt know what do you think of him supporting you . Oh, i dont know. I dont what kind of answer is that . An easy one. A layup in politics. David duke . Hate him. Dont want anything t