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CNNW Early Start With John Berman And Christine Romans November 17, 2015

The head of the fsb skuccessor f the kgb. He said to the president we found a homemade explosive device that was on board the plane with the equivalent of one kilogram of tnt. He said that would account for the fuselage of the jetliner would spread across such a wide area. Investigators have been covering an area of 20 square miles to pick up the pieces of the fuselage. The fsb director said that was a bomb with one kilogram of tnt. Vladimir putin vowing revenge. Saying we will search for them everywhere no matter where they are hiding. We will find them in any place on the planet and we will punish them. This is the first time russia acknowledged or confirmed that the bomb killed all 224 people on board. Now the russian president is vowing to strike back. And matthew, how will that translate in syria as far as russias aerial bombardment campaign is concerned . Reporter well, doubtlessly it will lead to intensification of bombardment. It may lead to furth further escalation of military presence. We will have to wait and see how the russians choose to respond. It is interesting that Vladimir Putin said we will find them wherever they are on the planet. So he has opened the possibility that russia could you know take action against these individuals or groups whoever is responsible for this elsewhere outside of syria as well. That is something that is, i think, also very new in the statement thats come out from Vladimir Putin, the russian president , over the course of the past few minutes. Matthew chance live in moscow. This breaking news is interesting because of russian president Vladimir Putin saying essentially as matthew was reporting, anywhere in the world. Could this extend outside of syria . It is fascinating to think. This went off over sinai. Does this mean russia will get involved in egypt politics. Will egypt admit . Egypt has been reluctant. I spoke to a high level official saying this is one theory among many. Western agencies have said it for days. Russia is now confirming it. Thats a good point. To put a point on this, the last few weeks have seen an Extraordinary Development in the path of isis in general. Blamed for planting the bomb taking down the aircraft, the bombing in beirut and now in paris. All different attacks and different targets and so many nations involved. These are franchises of isis. Are they all under the direct command of isis in raqqah or are other groups taking it upon themselves to organize perhaps in sinai or in iraq . They will determine Going Forward how countries who have been the targets of isis attacks will respond. How will the world respond . The French Interior minister here says police have carried out 128 new searches overnight on top of the night before, the investigators are trying to look for clues and try to get behind what happened on friday and the terror attack. John, sorry to interrupt, we are talking about increased Police Presence. We are seeing it here today. Absolutely. The government in fact is announcing the mobilization of 115,000 Police Soldiers across the country to help in the investigation. Authorities now say they believe they know who the mastermind behind the attack. A man named ahmed almuhamed. A direct citizen who has ties to al baghdadi. Ancois hollande says he believes the attacks were planned in syria and organized in belgium. And france has launched for air strikes on isis in the groups self declared capital. Ten planes dropped 16 bombs on raqqah, syria on tuesday and also, john, france is deploying Aircraft Carrier Charles De Gaulle to assist in the air campaign. This was planned before the attacks. It was precipitated after the attacks. I believe this Aircraft Carrier will get a lot more use than previously planned. New developments in the investigation in and around paris. We are joined by Senior Correspondent frederik pleitgen. Fred, you have been to a neighborhood where there was a great deal of activity perhaps the week leading up to this attack. And this is the district of bobigny to the northeast of paris. A working class neighborhood. It has a lot of disenfranchised youth on the streets. It seems in the neighborhood, the attackers that did all this here on friday, rented an apartment in the week leading up to the attacks where it seems some of the plotting and planning and some of the preparation for all this appeared to have been going. The person who rented that apartment is the brother of the man who is sought all over europe. Abdeslam rented that apartment. He was one of the attackers that killed many people and eventually himself with the suicide vest on friday. We discussed once you determined what apartment flat was rented, you can walk this back all the way to the source of the financing. At some point, you use a check or card. You know, you have to give some sort of financial identification. And personal information. You know, in order to get an apartment in a western european country, you need some official documentation. There is a lot that the authorities hope to glean from all this. If you have a bunch of guys or one guy who has links to extremist groups. Some of these people have been to syria. Six of the eight. How it was able for someone like that to get an apartment in paris probably smuggle some of the explosives and ak47s in the apartment without the authorities learning anything. Six of the eight in syria and further organized in belgium and week before renting this apartment in this neighborhood. Fred, any sense of what they are doing in this apartment now . Looking for forensic clues . It they are looking for forensic clues in the apartment and another apartment. One of the other attackers was also from that neighborhood. Just a couple of blocks down the road. Samy amimour. That apartment is being searched. There is a lot of police there. The place is cordoned off. They are looking for traces of explosives, but seeing if anything was left behind or a computer or something that could show the communications that took place. I think thats one of the things that really bothers the investigators here is they had no clue apparently about the communications about the people. Even u. S. Sources are saying they cant piece together the communications. One of the things the french announced side from the fact they are putting an extra 115,000 Law Enforcement personnel and military on the ground, they want to invest heavily in ways to combat the electronic communication. Lastly, i want to ask you, authorities are saying we need to monitor encrypt communications, but one went to the authorities and said our son could be radicalized. It is hard for them to say we had no clue and all done by encrypted information and that is why all this happened. It seems in the case of samy amimour that the writing was more than on the wall. He was known to french Law Enforcement from 2012. He tried to travel to yemen. He was prevented in doing so. He violated the surveillance. He went to syria. His mother went to the mayor and complained and said my son has been radicalized. Please help me. The mayor said authorities did nothing. His father traveled to syria and tried to get his son back, but failed. Of course, the family is absolutely shocked. They are in custody answering questions. The big question is could all of this have been prevented if someone listened to the parents. You cannot get more information than the parents saying our son is radicalized. That is what people keep saying. There are folks who have cred criticized. There are people coming forward and its difficult to tell the police that a Family Member of yours might be committing a crime. These people did in that. All right. We are going to follow that angle and many others with our frederik pleitgen. Cnns Nick Paton Walsh is in irbil and joins us with the deployment of the french Aircraft Carrier. Nick, tell us about the impact of the french air strikes on isis targets have on the terrorist group. Reporter hala, it is the second night in a row the french war planes have been hitting the caliphate of raqqah. We dont know what they hit. We know at 10 00 local time, the first explosion hit. That is reliable information. They have been insisting of the seven air strikes of last night and 24 they counted the night before last, no civilians have been killed. The targets which appear to be about the night before last around the outskirts and city center and stadium and museum, headquarters and jail, last night, the seven that went in appear to be to the south of the city. We await to hear more information about precisely what they were trying to hit. Other air strikes as well. There are the potential particularly given the events in moscow for three or four air forces to be involved. Coalition, u. S. , french, maybe the russians and Syrian Regime. That is a separate debate. The french boosting capacity by sending Charles De Gaulle Aircraft Carrier. They appear to be very much keen to send the political and military match that they will strike raqqah and isis in the heart of their self declared caliphate. We are awaiting to hear what was hit. Isis into months of dodging drones. Isis fighters move around undetected. They appear to stay out of the daylight. It is still the fate of civilians, those left or trapped inside raqqah because isis went let them go. Hala. It is interesting to see the french Aircraft Carrier. Now deployed in the wake of what happened here. Nick, what increased abilities does that give france . These launched from uae and qatar. These are moving ever closer to syria as well. Reporter the u. S. Has the ability to use the air base. When they were able to do that, they heralded the flight time where they could be in the air longer and refuel and cycle jets around faster. A similar ability from Charles De Gaulle. It is one Landing Strip for jets and limits the type of aircraft you can fly. It puts them closer to refuel and cycle up in the sky and reduces the flight time from jordan and the uae. Uae far away, a number of hours. That is significantly increases the potential for the french to keep jets above the sky. We have to see in the weeks ahead whether we are looking at a long term French Mission here to degrade isis. They wish to see the job through or if we have seen in the past, this is more about satisfying the visceral need. This may mark a moment where the bickering to undermine isis to be set aside now that russia seems to admit it was isis or a bomb that brought down the jet in the sinai. Does this herald a new moment . It is time to cooperate against isis or more chinks to iron out in the days ahead. John. Nick paton walsh in irbil, iraq. There are civilians trapped in the bombardment zones. I can only imagine the terror they are going through. A complex situation in syria with so many countries involved militarily with very different strategic interests. It will increase the refugee problem from that country. 4 million and counting. You are watching cnn. Thanks for being with us. The special coverage. The attacks in paris sparked a push to combat isis. After the break, we will look at how the u. K. Is stepping up its own efforts. Welcome back to paris. Im john berman along with hala gorani in the plaza de la republique. You can see the pictures of the eiffel tower lit up in the tricolors. This was stunning. I can tell you it was emotional. I saw people with tears in their eyes as they gazed at that lit up as i have never seen before. For several days, the eiffel tower went dark. You have it the colors of the french flag. The monument is open to tourists again. Paris says it will be lit up in the colors of the tricoal on tuesday and wednesday. Amazing to see. Lets bring in gendarmes. He is the political scientist. Lets bring in the reaction of the attacks. Francois hollande has gone on the war path essentially. We are at war. They are sending the Charles De Gaulle early. Did you expect this reaction . This is normal. The idea is to reassure the nation and thats why the parliament was actually all together and united in the special congress. Then actually proposed some solution of the international scene. It is still blurry. We dont have a full strategy regarding the internet scene on terror. It is complicated. The war in syria right now. A war on the streets of paris with isis striking here and also a war on the internet. It is fought at all these levels. How much more power does the french government need . It is not a question of intensity of power. I think it is a question of appropriate powers and a good strategy to do so. What does it mean . You said that regarding the internet. The fight of radicalization. We have trouble of social integration from the foreign population coming. Also regarding to finance. The fight against daish. They have a lot of money. Regarding the military, it is an essential part of a fight against this group. That we have to know what could be the most efficient. More bombs will not bring any kind of solution. Saying that, the u. S. And france together in afghanistan, did not reduce much in power. They are still there. We know aerial bombardment campaigns have limitations. We saw that in libya where it pushed back the Moammar Gadhafi on the east. At some point, do you foresee a time in syria it will be inevitable that the military involvement will go beyond the air campaign . I think it is already the case. I think we should have done something regarding to that a long time ago. Does it mean an International Coalition like the war in iraq . It might be the case. That didnt work either. In iraq. Like in 1991. Okay. I see. The first iraq war. Nothing can resist it like we did with saddam hussein. It might be a good idea. Otherwise, we have to go onsite. We have to find agreement between the Democratic Forces and the Syrian Regime and get together with the political transition. The question is what do we put in place instead of daish . They wont accept the return of bashar al assad. We could sent in 50,000 to take raqqah, but what then . What after . Precise mistake we have done in libya. We did not plan anything for after. The state did not exist in libya. The socalled Supreme Leader of libya, Moammar Gadhafi, there was no site. No state structure. There was a state in syria, but now it is completely destroyed by the revolution. We have to find a political solution and military action. The air strikes themselves are not sufficient. Julian, thank you very much. We appreciate having you on the program this morning. Other news from other parts of the world now. In britain, additional 1,900 spies to help fight isis. The u. K. Will increase military spending by 3 billion over the next five years. It also comes to more than double the amount it spends checking security at foreign airports. Lets get more from diana magnay. She joins us more on what is going on in the u. K. Reporter hala, David Cameron outlined the 3 billion in extra spending to go to Hard Military power. Doubling the fleet of drones, spending more money on attack aircraft, investing in special forces abroad. He outlined a major speech last night coming back from the g20 summit in turkey. He said this kind of threat, you dont protect people by sitting around and wishing for a better world. You have to be prepared to act and to use military force where necessary. Also the chancellor will make a major speech on Cyber Security today. Diana, hang on one second. U. S. Secretary of state john kerry finishing a meeting with french president Francois Hollande. You see the secretary of state coming to the microphone right now. Lets listen in. Express the condolences of president obama and the people of the United States to president hollande and thanked him for the extraordinary response of the french people, the courage they have exhibited. We talked about the significant steps we believe we can take together in a number of different areas to increase our efforts and be more effective even against daish. We already are doing that. President hollande will be visiting washington in a week. The president s will meet. We will have further discussions. We are committed to increasing our efforts and thoughtfully and carefully. My sense is everybody understands that with lebanons attacks, with whats happened in egypt, with ankara, turkey and attacks in paris, we have to step up our efforts to hit them at the core where theyre planning these things and also obviously to do more on borders in terms of the movement of people. The level of cooperation could not be higher. We agreed to exchange more information and im convinced that over the course of the next weeks, daish will feel greater pressure. They are feeling it today. They felt it yesterday. They felt it in the past weeks. We gained more territory. Daish has less territory. We have taken out leaders. We liberated certain communities. Tikr tikrit, the community, the three quarters of the border of the Syrian Border is now under control and taken away from daish. We are working with turkey to close the last portion. There is a Clear Strategy in place and step by step, im confident the momentum will pick up. I thank you all and particularly again, im confident that over the next days, paris which knows how to rebound, will do so. I look forward to being back here for the summit with president obama and i will stay longer. I think that will be an important statement by the world that no one will interrupt the business of the global community. Certainly not despicable, cowardly acts of terror. Thank you very much. Thank you. Secretary of state john kerry after a meeting with french president Francois Hollande. We learned two thi

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