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CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront December 6, 2012

Tonight, gangnam style. Yep, this is how one man sees the fiscal cliff and its a pretty important man. This is alan simpson. Yep. That maybe the most action the fiscal cliff saw today. Heres the scene on capitol hill at noon. Yep, people leaving. Members of congress leaving washington, heading home on wednesday afternoon. One man left standing was the House Speaker and he says im not going anywhere. Ill be here and ill be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. But of course, it takes two to tango, so where does president obama stand . We can probably solve this in about a week. Its not that tough. Its not that tough. Hes absolutely right about that. But we heard early this evening that the president and Speaker Boehner did speak late today on the phone, so thats good news, but in this case, they need face time. They need to spend real time face to face. Even democrats think the president needs to do more in person work on this. The president is not somebody who hes prioritizing evenings with his family instead of going down and having a bourbon on the rocks with some of the congressional folks. Sometimes though, you need to do to bourbon like when the country needs you. Bourbon, beer, wine, whatever, after a couple of drinks, the president and boehner could you know, pull a simpson. The lasso again, then the horse. The cowboys ride. The cowboys. Thats the special beer that you would drink to get you to dance the gangnam style. President obama and john boehner did the gangnam style, your Approval Ratings might go up. Outfront tonight, Tom Mcclintock of the budget committee. Thank you for taking the time. We just showed a lot of your colleagues going home on a wednesday night after working a threeday week. Obviously, thats an image that frustrates so many americans. Why are people going home before getting this done . Well, unfortunately, were not using the standard process where the house passes its version, the is that the passes its version, then a Conference Committee is very good in revolving impasses like this between the two houses. Unfortunately, none of thats being used and i think thats one of the reasons why these things are blocking down now so regularly. Weve abandoned a process that works very well when we use it. John boehner presented a plan to the president and in that plan, he put 800 billion in revenue from the wealthy on the table. He said he would close loopholes and those people would pay more money. You were a member of the Tea Party Caucus and some in your caucus have slammed boehners plan. Jim demint obviously among them. Do you think john boehner is the guy whos going to get this done . Is he going to be able to lead your party to consensus . I dont know the answer to that question. What hes trying to do is to mitigate the damage that obama would do with these massive increases in rates. Impasse is not an option. Means everybodys taxes go up, but if the president has his way, taxes are going to go up on those very wealthy folks making over 200,000, but most are Small Businesses filing a subchapter s companies, about 88 of net Small Business income will be for these taxes when were depending on them to create twothirds of the new jobs. Boehners trying to mitigate that mess. I wish him luck. Somethings going to f to have to give. From everything ive heard is that we are realistically, theres two options for country. One, go over the cliff. The other, extend the bush tax cuts for the 98 of americans. Everyone who makes under 200,000 a year if theyre single. Those seem to be the two choices. Between those, which do you pick . But, if we do that and raise the taxes on those Small Businesses we were just talking about, according to the congressional budget office, thats going to be about 200,000 American Families are going to be out of work next year and thats the low estimate. Young is estimating about 700,000 more unemployed. Thats a lot of hurt for the middle class, so this is a battle for the middle class even when were talking about that upper bracket because of the enormous impact that has on Small Business job creators. Okay. I mean, aside from that argument though, im really trying to just get at the process here. It seems that there isnt that much of a choice right now. I mean, the president has said rates have to go up. Not just revenue, rates, or hell veto it and he seems to mean it. He does mean it. As i said, failures not an option. Impasse means taxes go up on everybody, including those job creators. So youre saying youll go off the cliff before youll extend . What i said is that we cannot afford an impasse. Something is going to have to give. The president s plan means hundreds of thousands of middle class families losing their jobs next year. An impasse means thats going to happen, plus taxes going up on everybody else. Neither one is a viable option. Right, but were going to get in a choice where you have to make a choice. I guess what im saying is there a way in which you, congressman, would vote for tax rates to go up . Because thats the only way to not have that impasse and no go off the cliff. Erin, ive got to look at any pro pose sal before i make a deal on it, but tonight, the alternatives youve offereded, neither of these works. Both do enormous damage to our nations economy. Senator tom coburn today as you know, very vocal on this issue. Hes put years into it. Reached out across the aisle. He said he would rather raise tax rates than eliminate loopholes and cap deductions, which is the opposite of what it sounds like youre saying or Speaker Boehner is saying. What do you think of his idea in would you take a look at it . I think coburns basically coming from a standpoint as these taxes are programmed to go into effect. Again, i cant make a prediction on where were going to end up because i dont know. But do you think were going to get a deal by the end of the year . And the whole world is watching this. Some of them laughing at us, but also cause a real problem in our financial markets. If we allow those taxes to go up or if we allow the president s plan for them to go up on the people that were betting upon to make a new jobs in this dismal economy, the worlds going to be and nobody in americas going to be laughing. A whole world of hurt going around. The bottom line is you dont like the option, but youre willing to look. But i would certainly hope that we come up with worked a lot better than in the past. This business of the lead r es getting behind closed doors and working out a deal and dumping in the laps of congress. Thats not the way its supposed to work. We appreciate your taking the time tonight. After a big loss in november, some are calling for a big change and some are saying the next race needs to include conversations about race. Plus, Hillary Clinton in 2016. Some stunning numbers about the ground work and john mcafee on the run as his neighbor is found murdered. Our Martin Savidge went on the hunt, tracked him down. Hes outfront. Uff your nose. What . [ male announcer ] it doesnt have a decongestant. No way. [ male announcer ] sorry. Alkaseltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks [ male announcer ] youre welcome. Thats the cold truth [ male announcer ] alkaseltzer plus. 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[ laughs ] dad dad [ applause ] [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. Usaa brings advice. Call or visit us online. Were ready to help. Our second story, bucking the establishment. Fed up after republican parties lost in the election. Some members of the gop are pushing former congressman jc watts to run for chairman, but a lot of people in the party dont seem too hot on the idea. A leader tells our peter hamby he had no prayer. Roland martin warns that responses like that could backfire. He writes even if they choose not to vote for watts, if he decides to even seek the job, it is his skin color and perspective. Outfront tonight, jc watts. Good to see you. What do you think about what role land martin had to say, that the party needs to be careful how it responds to you, considering running, thinking about race. Well, i dont necessarily believe that the answer is to take a black face and put him in the chair at the rnc or asian or native american. I think we have to surround ourself at the rnc and within the party, we have to understand diversity and diversity is not a bad word. I take a biblical world view on diversity. God made you white. He made me black. He made you a female. He made me a male. I think god likes diversity, so if its good for god, it ought to be good for republicans, but the fact is, its hard to have perspective and its hard to have diversity with women or black or red or yellow or brown or white if you have no relationships. And if i dont know the chairman of the Republican National committee, i have no confidence that he has any relationship with chuck roast black guy, with billfold working white guy, with joe six pack hispanic. If i dont know him and i dont is say that to be selfserving. I just say that to point out how perplexing this when we think we can get people to vote for us if we dont know them. Lets look at your bio. You were a member of congress from oklahoma for eight years. Legislated chairman of the House Republican conference, the fourth ranking leadership position and now, the chairman of a communications and Public Affairs company. Youve had a long history in the Republican Party and as a manager and our peter hamby, he reported this about what the news of you rubbing for rnc chair was greeted with. He said he was met with a mix of quote skepticism, dispolice chief and even a hint of ridicule. Do you believe it is racially driven . I dont. I think this. I think every single republican ought to be concerned the fact that weve gotten our heads handed to us in 2008 and 2012. I am speaking as a concerned republican and you know, one of the things in politics, erin, we like to grade our own test and if you grade your own test, you know what happens . You get an a. You always give yourself a good grade and we lost with every single demographic i think with the exception of white men and people over 56 years of age and then, you know, we were pushing the evangelical prolife catholic, were pushing them out of the mix and we dont get them juiced up. We say forget about the social issues. We can be a socially conservative party, we can be an economically conservative party. We can fight for the values of reagan that he won a landslide election with in 1984, pu at the same time, we dont have to abandon our humanity to do it. What are we saying to single moms . To red, yellow, black, brown and white Small Business owners . Weve got to have deeper relationships with nontraditional constituencies. Thats just the fact. It is the fact. I dont know who could disagree with you on that. Look at the exit polls. 93 of africanamericans voted for the president. I mean, you know, you are in an incredible minority as a black republican. But let me add this. The president got 93 of in 2012. He lost three points and i think he lost those three points in my opinion, ill have to you know, fact check this, but i would submit to you he probably lost those three points because of his position on marriage. But those three points didnt go to mitt romney or republicans because those three points said we dont know republicans. We dont have relationships with with them. So, well just stay home. I submit to you they probably stayed home. They didnt vote for republicans. So, but how do you get africanamericans, a group that is traditionally identified as democratic. 73 of asian voters and the stereotype is different for africanamerican or hispanic voters. Theyre all voting democratic. What is is it about the Republican Party that could possibly win these people over . Well, the fact is and ive said this publicly before. I dont allow the Republican Party to lead me on issues that i thought were important to the black community and thats not to say they agree with me on everything, but when i was in college, i wanted colleges and universities to have a seat at the republican table. So i had conferences for them. I wanted black Small Business owners. Latino. To have access and relationships to the democratic of department. Federal agencies to understanding the contracting process. I think there are things you can do to say hey, these are my values. These are my principles. How do i help you accomplish what you want to accomplish in life . But it all starts with establishing a relationship and theres not a lot of diversity over this Republican National committee, which is the institution i think should be driving these type of initiatives and efforts. All right, well, j. C. , good to see you. Thank you. Outfront next, american meets with syrias neighbors and the United States has a plan on chemical weapons and really, are they going to use those chemical weapons . New details tonight and we followed amy copelands recovery breaking news out of the pentagon. Sources tell cnn the u. S. Is huddling with allies on what a chemical attack by assad would actually look like. We have a picture from former cia operative and contributor bob bayer to show you what the impact of a single shell of gas would be in launched on homs in syria. The large swath of the city that would be affected. Its estimated about 18,000 people would be killed in a day. Lets get straight to barbara starr. And barbara, what have you learned tonight . Well, you know, as tragic and serious as this is for the people of syria, this now has regional implications throughout the middle east. Intelligence services from israel, turkey, jordan, lebanon, all the countries surrounding syria are talking with the United States around the clock about this very scenario because if there were to be god forbid a chemical attack, the concern is some could drift across borders. Worse even as tragic as that would be, what if the regime collapses, terrorists move in, insurgent groups move in and grab some chemical material. They could take it across the borders into the neighbors countries and have a full fledged crisis in the region. There has been talk that assad may try and seek asylum. What are you being told about that and the possibilities . You know, theres a lot of rumors out there. The betting money is that the three countries that you hear about the most are russia, venezuela and iran. All countries that have been his allies although the russians clearly are losing some of their support for assad given this recent crisis with the chemical weapons. So those are the countries you hear about. Now, the assess smt that assad isnt ready to go. The u. S. Says it hasnt seen anything in term of concrete offers. Maybe assads commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. Next, 57 of americans say theyd vote for Hillary Clinton in four years. Think about how cent elections have gone. That would be an incredible mandate. What does she say about iran . And john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. Martin savidge tracked him down and he is outfront next. Sure dont you . [ nyquil bottle ] dude [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multisymptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. Nyquil® cold and flu doesnt. So, the 5. 3liter v8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds . 315 horsepower. Whats that in reindeer power . [ laughing ] [ stops laughing ] [ male announcer ] chevys giving more. 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