Good evening. Im erin burnett. The breaking news. An iraqi official telling cnn that isis has burned up to 40 people alive. The iraqi official says the victims include Police Officers and tribal fighters all near the town of albaghdadi. That town is nine miles away from an air base where 400 American Military personnel are stationed. The United States is analyzing images of this slaughter. Jim sciutto is outfront. When i first saw the reports were we all hoping this was an exaggeration and this could not be true. It seems that this horrific thing has happened. What more can you tell us. Reporter this one would stand out. The iraqi officials saying some 40, more Iraqi Security forces but local tribes men who stood up to fight isis advances on this town close to a u. S. Iraqi base that they were burned to death. Most of them possibly burned to death. Ive read situational reports from iraqi forces on the ground who raise the possibilities they were burned after they were killed in the fighting. This is something this isis has done in the past to desecrate the bodies. U. S. Officials are not putting this past isis. We know the pentagon is now invest gatsigateing this. They are holding out the possible they were burned while they were alive bringing back horrible images of the jordanian pilot. Those are horrible images. Isis is harboring human organs for sale. I know the state department is responded to that tonight. What are they saying . Thats right. The state department as with these allegations of burning these iraqi soldiers and tribes men alive, is saying this is very possible because of isis history. We have seen these deeply disturbing comments. Were not in position to confirm them. We also have no reason to doubt them giving other similar atrocities in the past. They are holding out this possibility here. Keep in mind the u. N. Ambassador did not provide any evidence. Cnn cannot confirm it. It does raise a question if they were harvesting these organs how would they get them out of the country. A country such as iraq, a war zone onto europe where they can be sold. This is proven its a prove very able in many ways. Its something the u. N. Now is investigating. Thank you. President own speaking about isis. He insists its not a war against islam. Al qaeda, isil and groups like it are desperate for legitimacy. They try to portray themselves as religious leaders, holy warriors in defense of the islam. They are not religious leaders. They are terrorists. We are not at war with islam. We are at war with people who have perverted islam. Not at war with islam. Those words are highly controversial to many and a Sticking Point to members of congress as the president seeks their approval for the formal use of force against the terror group. Jim acosta is out front. It was long and detailed. What more did he say . Reporter i dont think you can avoid the headline. The president staying away from islam e extremism and terrorism. The president pointed out that muslims are the victims of isis much more often people from other religious groups. His biggest applause line when he rejected critics who say hes taken too soft an approach. Here is more of what he said. We all know theres no one profile of a violent extremist or terrorist. Theres no way to predict who will become radicalists. Around the world and here in the United States. Which is betrayal of all our faiths. Reporter you can hear the president , those comments trying to strike a balance saying that Muslim Leaders. He said Muslim Leaders in the u. S. Need to do more to push back on this notion that theres a clash of civilizations between muslims and other faiths and white house officials know this stand is controversial. Ou very much. More on that crucial debate of whether this is radical islam. The words were meant for the entire world. Barbara starr is outfront. The president chose his words carefully when it comes to characterizing this war. Part of it is because theres this giant coalition. Some countries are participating a lot. Some not so much. Its a giant coalition and perhaps he wanted to be very careful to not associate this with a religion basis his key partners are muslim countries. Reporter many of the key members are muslim countries with millions of people of the islamic faith. One of the things youre seeing is the president reaching out to these Coalition Members and offering this message one way or being able to break them on being able to recruit young men and women. If the president says were not at war with islam, the alternative is we are at war and were not. I think theyre hoping this begins to resonate in the region with members of coalition. We have seen that in jordan. Earlier this week this grand mufti of egypt ruled after the videotape came out of those egyptian christian men being slaughtered, they said that had nothing to do with islam. This is beginning to resonate. I think youll see more of it and the u. S. Trying to get more traction for that message that this is not war against islam right in the heart of the islamic world. Its an important distinction to make. Now two men who were at todays terror summit with president obama. Good to have both you have with us. Matthew let me start with you. The president said about this crucial issue of why this is not war. Here he is. We are not at war with islam. We were people who have perverted islam. I want to quote him. The reality is the Islamic State is islamic, very islamic. He puts the emphasis on the word very. Its attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers. Why wont the president say this is an Islamic Movement . I get you dont want to imply all muslims have anything to do with isis but is the u. S. Wrong not to acknowledge that they are a radical Islamic Group . On the one hand were not at war with islam. You want that to be the clear not only for the people abroad as your correspondent just said but todays conference was about muslims in the United States. When people are carrying out acts of violence in the name of religion we have to deal with that. We need them to partner with us and they are. I think todays conference was a good turning point. I would like to hear the president say not only that were not at war but we are at war with this radical interpretation and were moving forward. I never heard the president get as close as today. Not quite there but close. For some people are very skeptical here i want to get to the heart of this. Let me place Something Else the president said. They do depend upon the misperception around the world that they speak in some fashion for people of muslim faith. Islam is inherently violent. The terrorist who do not speak for over a billion muslims who reject their hateful fulful ideology. When i heard the president say that i thought about this a study that shows honor killings of women who have engaged in premarital sex is justified. They are to use the president s words, inherently violent. They are supported by 60 of iraqis. In the president s push to emphasize the peaceful nature of islam, do you think hes at risk of endorsing these kinds of believes which are common . No no. I think the president was right on. I think i would disagree with matthew slightly. I think the president went all the way many this speech not just came close. I think he was very strong on were not at war with islam because were not. He also presented a challenge not only to Muslim Americans in the muslim world but americans in general to understand the nature of this enemy that were fighting and how we best combat it. When he says were not at war with islam and islam is not a terrorist religion hes not validating honor killings in iraq. Honor killings is not an islamic behavior. Its a behavior that exists in a Traditional Society which iraq happens to be. It also happens to be a practice that occurs in many other traditional societies that are patriarchial and its deplorable. Many of the behaviors are behaviors of more traditional and backwards societies. I think we have to understand that. Its fair point. Let eets take a look at life for women under isis. You have to be accompanied by a male guardian. Mow must wear double layered veils. Lets talk saudi arabia an ally of the United States. We all have been there. You can nowt drive a car. You cant leave the country without a males approval. You must wear a loose gown and cover your head. One is an ally of the United States, a more moderate brand of islam. True. Saudi arabia is modernizing. Its changing slowly very slowly. Some might say glacially, but it is changing. The attitudes are changing and saudi arabia is moving in a different direction. The difference between saudi arabia and isis is that isis is a terrorist movement that absorbs these traditional behaviors and behaves rather brutally to everyone. Muslims and nonmuslims. Saudi arabia has the traditional behavior and does commit some i think the floggings, et cetera but its not a terrorist country and doesnt aggressively pursue terrorism as a tactic as isis does. Its totally different creatures. Thank you very much to both of you. The question is still whether funding for isis why so much funding still comes from their countries. Thank you both very much. Next a masked terrorist. The voice of that gruesome isis video where 21 christians were beheaded in libya. 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The speaker could have learned his english in Montreal Canada because of what he called residential patterns similar to montreal residents of foreign asent. Reporter theres some 150 americans that have attempted to go to fight in iraq and syria or have done so successfully. The impact is featured. They are prize recruited not only for their propaganda value but also for the possible that they might return home someday and carry out terror on the u. S. Homeland in europe or elsewhere. Thank you very much. Robert oneil the seal team 6 men who killed bin laden. Good to have you with us. Robert as a layperson when i watch this video the first thing i noticed is the speaker was different from the speaker than any other video. It sounded like he learned english from an american speaker. Youve watched it. What does it sound like to you . Thank you for having me. I did watch it. I was with another navy seal. We commented he was from the United States. He wasnt from london like jihadi john. They do have americans over there fighting the jihad. They used him on purpose to prove they have a lot of westerners fighting for isis. Tim, i want to play again this very brief clip that were showing of this speaker. Here he is. All praised due to allah the strong and mighty and maybe us exempt peace be upon the one sent by sword as a mercy for all the wordslds. It didnt seem like american english is his first language. Do you think he spent time in the United States . Are you able to make any guesses to how much and what capacity . Clearly he has a foreign accent on top of the american accent. He spent a considerable amount of time in north america to be speaking like that or with north americans. Hes not first. Obvious liply we have moneyhundreds of these individuals. Its a cueoupe when ever they can get an american as a spokesperson outlet. Its a big recruiting tool. The speaker looks different than the other terrorist. Other other one is wearing black head to toe. 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The Italian Government deploying Counter Terrorism police to protect major tourist sites after a video warning the group is south of rome. New isis expansion into libya is now just about 100 miles from the southernmost coast of italy. Italy is afraid. Reporter thats right. Italy is on high alert after a video by isis showing, warning that the group is south of rome. This comes after previous warning last october when the Jihadist Group said they would hang their black flag over st. Peter square. Thats Pretty Amazing that they are that concerned. Obviously tourist, western tourist, american tourists are soft targets and significant targets for isis. In italy they are worried about how isis militants may get into the country. It may be easy to come from libya. Reporter thats right. They are very, very concerned about an influx of migrant boats coming from libya. The italian navy is doing what they can to rescue the migrants. They are concerned that they dont know if theyll be able to tell the difference between potential jihadi fighters and true seekers looking for a better life, a safer place fleeing war. Gives a whole new perspective. Thank you. Libya is calling on the United Nations to lift the arms embargo so it can fight against isis. The terror group is filling a power vacuum. R