We begin outfront tonight with the breaking news on the deadly amtrak crash. Investigators now telling cnn that they are zeroing in on the engineers handling of the train. Sources say they are looking into a range of possibilities. And tonight they say they are not ruling out something intentional. The fbi is also trying to figure out what may have caused that speeding train to derail. Eight died, more than 200 injured. Tonight they are ruling out one thing. They are ruling out the possibility that a bullet was what damaged the trains windshield. Investigators are still looking to determine, though, if the train was hit by another object and what role that could have played in the crash if so. A review of the trains black box has been completed. The ntsb has found no indication let me repeat no indication of mechanical failure at all. Thats perhaps why theyre zeroing in on the engineer. Rene marsh is outfront where Amtrak Service resumed today. Rene, the investigation is focusing on the engineers handling specifically. Theyre not ruling out a wide rarity of things including something intentional. What more have you learned . Well erin, i can tell you, weve been here all day talking to Law Enforcement and government sources. And there is a sharp focus on this engineer how he handled the train, and also his experience. We know from the ntsb that the engineer has been on this particular route for several weeks that is not a lot of time. So theyre looking at that. We also know that just because investigators are looking at him and his handling it doesnt necessarily indicate there is a criminal act here. In fact we do know that Police Investigators here in philadelphia as well as the District Attorneys Office here in philadelphia theyre in a bit of a Holding Pattern as far as criminal charges simply because they want to wait and see exactly what the ntsb concludes and what it finds in its conclusion. We do know as far as the ntsb investigation, erin that they have completed the analysis of the black boxes. So far no indication of mechanical failure. But an ntsb source does stress that it is still very, very early in the investigation. Too early to rule anything out at this point. They say that they will not have an exact cause until the conclusion of this investigation, which could take 12 whole months. Erin . And rene the train, what we do know, right, 106 miles an hour at the time of the crash, more than twice the speed limit. This is the thing that nobody has been able to explain, right, why the train would suddenly and in the space of about 45 secondsing a little bit less accelerate like that. At this time what are they saying about whether that acceleration was intentional . Well, they have something that is very valuable which is the trains recorders. And based on the data from the trains recorders, the ntsb is saying that this engineer manually moved the throttle forward to increase the speed of the train there is no question about that. The question is though why did he do that and what happened after. Why wasnt this train slowed down as it approached that 50 Miles Per Hour curve. That remains on the answered erin. Thank you very much rene marsh. We should emphasize when they talk about so many things still being on the table, including something intentional, the engineer did at the very last moment hit the engineer brakes. He did try to slow down. Right now transportation attorney and who investigated rail accidents for 18 years. Jim, you heard rene. You and i have spoken before about this crash. And you had said look i dont buy into the projectile. They are now firmly saying it was not a bullet. That was certainly not something that is to blame here. Theyre now focusing in on the engineer brandon bastion. Do you think thats the right thing to do . Theyre going to be homing in on his conversations, everything he has done since he has been to work on the railroad. Theyre going to be looking at that day before, what he did. The event recorder will tell them a lot about how he treated the train as far as the speed restrictions and operating requirements. Everything points to me that they need to look at his conversations and his training. They will go back and talk to his instructors, see who qualified him to operate on the territory, and see if there is anything. Because he is not able to communicate what he did prior to that theyre going to have to rely on the physical evidence, the event recorder and that type of information. So right now they have to treat him as if he didnt survive the crash. Which obviously saying he doesnt remember anything. Right. He had been an engineer for four years on amtrak. Right. I know he was relatively new to this route. I guess the question for you, andrew, do you think there is something to be said for thats not enough experience . I dont know that it is enough experience. He is traveling on this particular this particular track is the busiest corridor in the United States. And im not sure how familiar he was with this specific set of tracks at night. He clearly should have known there was a curve coming up if he had had enough experience to know that. Ive heard rumors that the train was late in departing, at least half an hour late. Perhaps he thought he should accelerate to make up some time and took it too far. Weve seen only last month a pilot at germanwings actually intentionally crash an airplane. Im not suggesting that this engineer did that. But those are things that have to be looked at because his conduct right now is inexplicable. And jim, theyre not taking something intentional off the table there is a lot of things still on the table. I want to emphasize that. But theyre not taking intentional off. One thing we all do know now about brandon bostonian, he was online ranting about the Rail Industry and the safety in the Rail Industry saying why dont they prevent this type of tragedy. He even talked about human error. I wish the railroads had been proactive from the getgo. The reality is theyve had nearly 100 years of opportunity to implicate some sort of system to prevent human error but with a few notable exceptions have failed to do so. It doesnt mean anything but it does stand out that this was a guy who was obsessed with safety, who was posting about it all the time. That something that makes you feel better or is that something that raise as yellow flag . It makes me feel that he is overconfident. And being overconfident, you kind of are not too careful when you should be. So the fact is that they have asked amtrak to put up speed limit signs means im not sure whether the speed limits on the curve or not, but it could have just been an oversight on his part that got him into the predicament he is in. He has proven his point. The quote you just read, he has demonstrate howd relevant that technology really is. So his point has been proven. Whether he intended to prove it himself or not, i couldnt tell you. But it may be that he is just the opposite. Im not disagreeing with jim. But there is another angle, and that he is less confident. He is insecure with his skill set and his training. Because he is relatively new you pump your chest and promote yourself. He is the type of person that wishes he had positive train control to back him up. If youre not confident in your skill set you might want the technology to help back you up if you make a mistake. So do you think, andrew there will be criminal charges . Obviously we dont yet know enough and intentional or nonintentional would impact that. Its quite possible. Eight people were killed. There are scores that were seriously injured. The captain of the ferry, the Staten Island ferry that crashed into the dock in 2003 was prosecuted and he plead guilty to manslaughter. The director of the new york city ferry system was also prosecuted. He wasnt even on the boat at the time. And thats because they failed to follow protocol and have two men two crewmembers on the bridge. So there is precedent for this. The recent accident was very similar to this derailment. And the office has recently this past week indicated they are not going bring charges against mr. Rockefeller, that engineer. All right, thank you both very much for joining us on that breaking news as theyre honing in on the engineer specifically now on the amtrak crash. A major development. Outfront next a significant victory for isis, the capture of ramadi just its baghdad. 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Obviously, the direct shots of all the rockets going off. Here is what we do know. More than 500 civilians were killed there by isis in the past two days. And security forces. 25,000 people have fled. Most of them going to baghdad, which is now becoming encircled actually by isis. Despite that the United States though insists the terrorist victory is only temporary, not anything to worry about. And payton walsh is outfront. The isis flag now over the city of ramadi just 80 miles from baghdad, flaunting pictures of dozens of prisoners they have released and of the abandoned iraqi army arsenal that is now theirs. The city threatened for months. The surrender by iraqi forces was certainly a significant blow. As to what the u. S. And allies did not want to see happen. Ramadi, the capital of Anbar Province a strategic foothold that makes up a third of iraq. To the east of isis in Ramadi Iraqi Police and tribes are massing to fight back. But isis controls two other towns close to the capital, fallujah and karma. They would have a straight shot into baghdad from their strongholds in syria. U. S. Officials were quick to frame the loss as part of the long fight against isis. The campaign against dash is a long one. Its going to take a long time. Weve already said that. Reporter but monday, an admission this is a loss. There is no denying that this is a setback. But there is also no denying that the United States help the iraqis take back ramadi. Reporter a stark change in anner row of success the u. S. Tried to build involving a weekend raid. Abu sayyef said to be a money man, killed guarding a trove of vital documents. A worthy risk u. S. Officials insist even though few isis experts have heard much about him. This was supposed to be the months in which the u. S. Worked with the iraqis to retake mosul from isis not wonder how they might launch campaign to save ramadi. And tonight the issue is we know 25,000 people have fled according to the u. N. Ramadi in the past few days of fighting. But how much of that city that used to have a million in it probably has 300,000 roughly, how many are still inside the deserted streets facing either a brutal life under isis, or more terrifyingly potentially execution if isis view them as baghdad loyalists . Thank you very much. I want to go to Barbara Starr at the pentagon. Barbara, this raid that the United States is championing this was a very big raid. They were able to get a very big player from isis. Others are skeptical from that. What have you learned about exactly how the raid happened . Erin we now know the u. S. Had been keeping its eye on this man, abu sayyef not his real name of course since march when those dilt Delta Force Commandos took off in their helicopters to make their way to that building that compound where they were hoping to find him. They had fresh intelligence knowing that he was there. He had been under surveillance. They had been monitoring his pattern of life so to speak. They had a very good sense he was there. When they got there, they got into a firefight. They had to blow a hole in the side of the building to get inside. When they came across sayyef, he by military accounts resisted and he was killed. But this is sort of a classic u. S. Military commando operation. They went in very quickly, very hot, very heavy. They were able to capture his wife and she is undergoing interrogation in iraq. Erin . Barbara so what was the United States able to get in the raid . I mean anything actionable in terms of intelligence . Are they releasing any of that at this point . Thats the question. Why risk so Many American military lives to go after this guy. What were being told is it was not just that he was the money man in charge of isis oil and gas operations but he had taken on an increasing role in the organization. He may have had contact with the leader abu bakr al baghdadi. They wanted to get his laptop, his cell phone, talk to him, talk to his wife about everything they knew. They felt this was an intelligent treasure trove if you will and in fact erin we should say that after the raid white house officials called some of the families of american hostages that had been held in syria by isis. They wanted to let them know that they were looking for any information in this treasure trove about the fate of those hostages. All right, barbara, thank you. I want to bring in the former cia operative bob baer. So here is the thing. Theyre now saying this guy was huge guy, this guy ran the oil and gas, this guy was a major player for isis. But some people are saying he really wasnt. And maybe he might not have been the main target, that now theyre playing him up because they got him. But he wasnt really the main goal here. They risked about two dozen delta force, 24 of americas top fighters to go in on this particular raid. What do you think . Was he really the prize . Erin i dont think he was. This is the first raid into syria other than the hostage rescue attempt. It was a big deal. It was risky. They had to bring a lot of force in. They would have preferred to get more people or somebody of higher value i think once they determined who he was, they made the best of it said he was important. But thats not to detract from the fact that getting hard drives cell phones and the rest of it you learn all sorts of things. This is the beginning of a organized intelligence collection operation against the islamic state. And you have to do many, many of these raids before you can really go to war with them and ultimately decapitate them as we did al qaeda in pakistan. Is it worth the way theyre doing it now . I mean now its raid by raid. Because the u. S. Doesnt want to put boots on the ground. So there are boots on the ground but theyre special forces boots. Theyre your most highly trained fighters the United States has. It worth risking their lives in groups of 20 and 24 to go into these places and okay you get something, but you get the wrong guy . Erin these guys are really good. Ive seen them in action. They can get in a place and out with no cash. The mostly, especially after the wars in iraq and afghanistan. Yes. And there are a quite a few of them in erbil. But i think the point is erin, this is not going to be enough. This is a drop in the bucket. The islamic state, isis is a true menace to the stability in the middle east. And with this offensive theyre carrying out in syria against homs against palmyra and now ramadi and fallujah we have to find a way to stop them. Im not advocating putting boots on the ground. But weve got change the game here because were losing right now. John kerry says dont worry about it were going get it back. Dont worry about ramadi. But when you look at a map, youre looking at the capital of iraq almost encircled by isis. Who is telling the real story . The story about isis growing stronger and an isis takeover of iraq or john kerry in the u. S. Who says dont worry . The state department doesnt have a clue what to to be it and neither does the military its such a bad problem. You look at ramadi it covers major roads, roads north up the euphrates and roads to jordan. Its very important. The only way theyre going to be age to take ramadi back is by flattening it. If the militias go there and flatten that town you will see a sectarian conflict in iraq like weve never seen before. Bob baer thank you very much. Not mincing words there with his view on the state department. And tonight on cnn we take you inside isis whom. Are they . What do they want . Blind side. A special by Fareed Zakaria is tonight at 9 00 eastern. And outfront next texas police on alert amid rumors of even more Gang Violence tonight. 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