Transcripts For CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront 20160920 23:00:00

CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront September 20, 2016 23:00:00

Party on october 10th. That means two nuclear bomb test, 15 or 16 missile tests and possibly two rocket launches just this year. Thanks very much for that report. That is it for me. Thanks very much for watching. Im wolf blitzer. Erin Burnett Outfront start right snow. Federal charges against rahami. Was he radicalized in afghanistan and pakistan. And did donald trump use money in his foundation to settle his own business lawsuits . Im going to ask his campaign busy manag manager. Lets go outfront. Im erin burnett. Outfront tonight the breaking news. Federal charges filed moments ago against alleged bomber ahmed khan rahami. Charges included use of a bomb of Mass Construction and the bombing were also founding out that that dumpster moved 120 feet. Windows shattered as high as three stoirsz. Much more about the fingerprints and where he even bought the material. Some on ebay. This in new york where 29 were injured on saturday night. And some of those materials from ebay according to this federal complaint. This as were learni ining more about the signs of his battleground. The fbi interviewed his father more than two years before the bombings following on a tip he had called his own sewn a terrorist. Earlier today his father spoke to reporters outside the familys chicken restaurant in elizabeth new jersey. Why did you call the fbi two years ago . What happened . He doing bad. What . He hurt my son. He i hurt my wife. And i put him to jail two years ago. And today were learning much more about rahamis wife. Aza pibi, a pakistani woman. And here is something important. She was in the United States until days before the bombings. Debra, what do you know at this hour. The wife now does appear to be cooperating with authorities and she could provide critical information as to where rahami was during his time in pakistan and afghanistan to areas that officials call high risk. Rahami himself, the terror suspect still not talking. Two years before allegedly detonating a bomb in manhattan, Ahmad Khan Rahami came to the attention of the fbi in new jersey. Agents interviewed his father muhamed. Following a domestic dispute in which he allegedly called his son a terrorist. Why did you call the fbi two years ago . What happened . He doing bad. What did he do bad is this he struck my son. He i hit my wife. And i put him to jail two years ago. At the time rahami had just returned from a yearlong trip to pakistan and afghanistan. Officials tell cnn fbi agents did not interview rahami. After conducting internal database review, interagency checks and multiple interview, the fbi ultimately concludes it was a family dispute. We reported the domestic incident some time ago. The allegations were recanted and i dont have any other information. Well keep digging. However because of his repeated trips to areas associated with terrorists when rahami returned to the u. S. In 2014 customs and Border Patrol agents pulled him aside for extra screening. A Law Enforcement official telling cnn that information was sent to the fbi before the family dispute. While the fbi so far does not believe rahami was part of a terror cell in the area. Investigators are digging into his connections in the u. S. And overseas to determine if he had any help. We have to identify everybody involved moving forward and see what their backgrounds are. See where they have been. What they have been up to. Rahami allegedly built at least ten bombs. Eight pipe bombs and two Pressure Cooker bombs. A federal Law Enforcement force tells cnn rahami used a highly volatile chemical explosive. Telematerial is so powerful it could create an even bigger blast than the one caused by the boston bombers. Tonight investigators are learning more about what could have inspired rahami. After a shootout with police, investigators discovered he had a notebook on him with a bullet hole. According to a Law Enforcement official it referenced the Boston Marathon bombers and american born al awlaki. The bloom blew out all the window, shattered windows across the street and so powerful that it propelled that dumpster across this sixlane highway basically. 23rd street. And i spoke with experts earlier today and he told me hes very surprised that given the sensitivity of the compounds in that Pressure Cooker that that device didnt detonate sooner. Thank you very much. Out front live uds of the hospital where rahami is being treated in new york new jersey. And what do you know about his condition . Is he talking to police cooperating at this time . Reporter not just yet erin. We know from police rahami is listed in critical but stable condition and will likely survive according to officials after undergoing surgery for several gunshot wounds. Of course those he experienced in that gun battle with Linden Police officers just yesterday. At this point because of his medical condition, authorities have not had a chance to talk to them but were told federal authorities of course are eager to do so. We should also mention that peter hammer, the second Linden Police officer that was injured in that gunfight, he was released from the hospital today to his fellow Police Officer whose stood in line cheering for him. He gave salute back to them and you could see that he had that wound on his forehead. A graze wound he experienced during the gun battle with rahami. His fellow officer Angel Padillo was released just yesterday. Our panel and i want to spend this time going through the breaking news there is a lot of significant details here in these charges that we are looking at. A number of things, including the fact, the key thick which weve been reporting for a couple days now the fact that the unexploded bomb was frankly a pinch on this case. There were 12 fingerprints recovered from the unexploded Pressure Cooker device found on 27th street. That was key to helping identify him. We also, according to these document, the prosecutor, the fbi investigators were able to find lot of evidence from cell phones, including cell phones that belonged to Family Members. Cell phones in which he appears to be exploding practice devices near very near to that home in elizabeth, new jersey that weve been showing a lot. The chicken restaurant thats been shown a lot. It appears that this journal that weve also talked about which was recovered, there is a lot of ramblings as weve described it. Including a reference to wanting to carry out jihad, hoping that hes able to carry out jihad before the fbi is able to catch him. He makes reference to the people of ft. Hood in texas and as well as what he refers to his brothersibrother osaOsama Bin Laden. The fbi recovered evidence that he bought the components used for these bombs on ebay common things you could easily buy. And he bought them in the last couple of months in june and july. Was able to buy these on ebay. So hes been planning this a while. We previously reported that he bought multiple flip phones, were the phones that are believed to have been used to carry out or to at least be attached. As the triggers. For the triggers to these devices. As even is talking about here. Were learning he was buyi citrc acid. Circuit boards. And hardened lead milling balls and all of this on ebay. All of this going to the same address. Appears he really was living in this home atop of the family chicken restaurant. And yet none of this triggered anything. Yeah, exactly erin, the problem is weve been promised with these databases that they would be combined in something that set up red flags on the fbi assessment travel to to quetta. A whole year in pakistan. That is long time to disappear. This all should appear in databases but it doesnt. The fact is these databases are not unified, if you like. And they dont work. This guy should have been, you know they should have looked into him again after the first fbi interview. But it is not entirely fbis fault. They are just overwhelmed with leads. Unless they can tie it to one overt act in the for terrorism, they cant do much about this. And so let me just ask you art about Something Else we are learning. I want to be clear. He did send most of these to a perth amboy address where he worked. They do say they found a video of him, okay, on a Family Members phone from the cellular phone belonging to a Family Member of rahami of him igniting a bomb. We dont know whether he filmed bish but he appears in the video. So it it would appear someone else made the video of him doing an explosion they just a couple of days before the chelsea bombings. Makes sense he would be out testing this type of device. Whats disturbing here is it is on a Family Members video. What happened . Why wasnt there a phone call made . It was previous reports of domestic disturbances of the brothers having a violent confrontation, a stabbing occurred. The father actually named i him as a terrorist back a couple years ago. The fbi did an interview. This really should have triggered something in the familys mind that why is he out behind the chicken restaurant blowing stuff up. And why wasnt any phone call made . This must have been some pretty low grade explosions for nobody to hear them . On this front, they are saying that the video was filmed at or in the immediate vicinity of that elizabeth residence. It is not a big place. It was on a Family Members phone. Is implication is someone else filmed it so someone else knew this was going on. Right. And yet none of this was put together as art pointed out to a guy who his father reported him two years oogsz a terrorist. Another example of see something, say something. So often we hear after an incident is when people say oh i should have reported that but no one seems to do it at the time. And so, you know, again people see something they dont like orFamily Members see this, they should have either contacted local Law Enforcement or contacted the fbi. One of the things that is emerging i think in talking to Law Enforcement official whose have been who are doing this case. They tell me the thing thats emerging now is the fact that there was pretty Mother Nature dysfunctional relationship within this family. Yes. So that is some of the context here. In hindsight this makes sense but at the time certainly as the fbi was looking at this in 2014. Oh as the domestic issue with the family and the father recants and says oh no that was just in my in the passion of the moment i said that. But i dont really mean that. They spent actually a couple of months looking into this. And getting looking at the reports that were received from customs and border protection. They looked at his travel and some of the reports that were filed by people who interviewed him when he came back into the country. And they didnt think it added up. Now ill tell you this. This was 2014. If this case i think came up more recently, perhaps things might have turned out differently. Next rahamis Close Friends speaks out for the first time. What hes saying about his family life that should shed new light on the investigation tonight. Plus inside a bomb lab for a closer look at the devastating effects of Pressure Cooker bomb as were learning the horrific details tonight of just how damaging this bomb was. And president george hw. Bush is voting for Hillary Clinton he says. Trumps Campaign Manager is our guest. I love that my shop is part of the morning ritual around here. 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This long time friend of the accused bomber says in his teens rahami was outgoing, funny and looking forward to a future in Law Enforcement. In high school though he got his girlfriend pregnant and struggled to make Child Support payments. There was more stress and it led to one of the most dramatic events in his life. The time his father literally abandoned him in pakistan. He told me himself that he was basically left there and he had to find his own way. Which im sure traumatized him for life. The friend who doesnt want to be identified said it was a shock when ahmad actually came back. He left and they took away his way of coming back and that was about it. And it hurt him a lot. And that night like when he told me he said it in a very devastated way. During multiple trips back and forth to afghanistan and pakistan, ahmad and his brother married pakistani cousins. He asked his wife to step in when had visa issues. After they got a passport they found out she was 35 week pregnant and would not give the entry visa and said they would give they are visa once she had the baby. After she was allowed in the u. S. Rahami and his wife tried to get away from the troubled family life moving into this apartment but a friend says they couldnt afford it, were evicted and ended up back in the family apartment governor the chicken shop. It was not good what happened. Lawsuits over big debts incurred by the father. Allegation of child abuse by the mother. The tight quarters led to family fights in 2014 the violence escalated. Ahmad pulled a knife and according to this arrest warrant pulled a knife and stand him in the left leg. It was a very bad situation for ahmad. He was trying to live with his parents and his wife and kids. But i guess drama just unfolded that night between them. This friend erin is not excusing any of the actions of ahmad rahami. He just came forward to explain the terrible home life ahmad was trapped in. He blames his friend for making terrible decisions to try to get out of it. Erin. And now his former classmate and coworker. Amargie sing. What was your reaction when you first heard that he was a suspect in the bombings . Little as i know ahmad rahami, when i get an i alert on my phone, i was at work. Didnt pay any mind to it as much. Just looked at it and then, you know, put my phone away and then saw his picture. Still didnt really, you know, pointed it out because i didnt really got any contact with him for such a long time. And after my mom asked me to send a picture over to her so she could have it in her phone, that is when i looked close before sending it to her. And i zoomed in a couple of times to see if that is really him or not. And i was starting you know, i was just in shock, seeing that was ahmad that i knew. From back when he used to work with me. And you know we just heard, you know, a another one of his friends talking about his feud with his father and of course we now know his father accused ahmad of being a terrorist in 2014. What was their relationship like . I didnt get in touch with ahmad around that time. Last time i think i spoke to him was around 2012. He used to work with me basically around between 2011 to 12. And his relationship with his father when he spoke to me during work times, which was 6 00 p. M. To 3 00 a. M. A lot of times in between. He spoke to me, told me like he didnt really get along with his father as much. Due to because he had a daughter that was not in his race. All right. So you also know i know during the time you knew ahmad. He became more religious. Were just learning tonight he posted a journal a letter where he talked about Osama Bin Laden and other members of al qaeda. That he talked about jihad. What was he like . Terms of his religion . He never spoke about any of that. He was more just going to pray and raise his daughter religious. Every time hed bring his daughter to his mom and, you know, do it the right way so she wont feel like shes out of the race and so they could feel more comfortable with it and probably accept him more i think. Amargie, thank you very much for taking the time you are now learning more about rahamis wife, his current wife. The pakistani woman. Right. She had a preplanned trip. A trip she had planned for some time. Bought the tickets. Traveled overseas. We dont know exactly when she traveled. However she was on her way back were told by sources and when all of this went down she was intercepted. She was stopped in the

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