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CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront December 27, 2016

Beaten trump if he could have run again. Im confident that if i if i had one again and articulated it, i think i could have mobilized a majority of the American People to rally behind it. Trump, who is in florida, has stayed away from cameras and twitter most of the day. Felt compelled tonight, president obama said that he thinks he would have won against isis, obamacare, et cetera. President obama in the same wideranging exit interview with cnn also said he wont be staying quiet. Athena jones is outfront from honolulu where president obama is va cacationing with his fami. Athena, this somewhat strange war of words is not showing signs of dying down right now. Reporter hi, kate. Its not surprising to see president elect trump weighing in here. It would be more surprising if he didnt. I dont expect president obama to respond and his point that his vision of unity, this vision he ran on successfully twice, that it still appeals to Many American voters, is just one of many arguments he made during this wideranging interview. President obama making a bold statement about the 2016 election in a nearly hourlong sitdown with his old friend and adviser, David Axelrod. Saying he Still Believes there is more that unites americans than divides them. That shone as a beacon of freedom and opportunity. I am confident in this vision because im confident if i had run again, and articulated it, i think i could have mobilized a majority of the American People to rally behind it. Reporter but the president told axelrod democrats have to do a better job of connecting with voters everywhere. Especially those who feel they have been left behind as the economy has recovered from the great recession. Saying of Hillary Clintons run if you think youre winning, then you have a tendency just like in sports maybe to play it safer. The problem is is that were not there on the ground communicating not only this, but we care about these communities, were bleeding for these communities. Right. Reporter the president says the party must rebuild through organizing at the local level. And having a presence even in the reddest of districts. And while he wont weigh in on daytoday politics that doesnt mean that if a year from now, or a year and a half from now, or two years from now, there is an issue of such moment, such import, that isnt just a debate about a particular tax bill or, you know, a particular policy, but goes to some foundational issues about our democracy that i might not weigh in. Now, the president said one reason he doesnt want to get involved in commenting on daytoday politics is it would run contrary to the tradition for an expresident to be involved in this way, but he believes it will inhibit the development of the kinds of new leaders and new voices he believes the Democratic Party needs to be successful in the future and one more thing, kate, i want to adhere, just a new tweet from president elect trump, that came across twitter not long ago. He said, the world was bloom g before i won. There was no hope. Now the market is up nearly 10 and Christmas Spending is over 1 trillion. My guess is that wont be the last well hear from president elect trump weighing in on this. Kate . Cant really take credit for christmas, but i guess he can. All right, athena, great to see you. Thank you so much. Outfront with me tonight, rick santorum, former republican president ial candidate and former senator, of course, from pennsylvania. Michael nutter, former democratic mayor of philadelphia. David gergen is here, former president ial adviser to four president s. And salena zito, washington examiner, staff reporter, and New York Post columnist. You cant claim christmas, senator, cant take credit for christmas. Senator santorum, please tell me, trump weighing in on president obamas comments saying, no way that obama could beat him. This is, yes, of course a bit of obama mondaymorning quarterbacking about the election but as the president elect, why even take this on . Well, because thats just who donald trump is and at least for the time being, this president elect period, hes still going to have his twitter account and still going to use it and, you know, he has proven that the old adage that mike nutter lived by, which is if somebody attacks you in politics, you dont let that sit very long, you go right back at it. Hes taken than to a new art form using twitter. I dont think a new low. Now and january 20th. Now the question is, after january 20th, will it change . Yeah. And my recommendation would be, yes, it should change. How much it should change, i think thats how much can you persuade the president elect to change those things . I think it should change. He should be a lot more reticent in using that. Im not saying he shouldnt use it but should be more reticent in using it. A lot of people all throughout the campaign trying to change that man, donald trump, but it got him where he is today that he did not change. Mayor nutter, i know you know to weigh in. Thats pretty pathetic. Obama is critical of trump with this comment but theres implicit criticism in the interview with David Axelrod, implicit criticism of Hillary Clinton and the campaign that she ran. Kate, i would probably push back little bit. First, i dont think the president was critical of donald trump. He was talking about himself. Mr. Trump is going to struggle with the fact that the majority of americans who voted actually voted for Hillary Clinton. He did win the Electoral College. Hes going to be the next president. We dont need to litigate that, but that is that just gets under his skin and hes just going to have to deal with that. President obama was talking about himself as a candidate. He ran two times. He won two times. He has a stellar record in many, many areas. And as he said, he would have articulated about the things that he has done. With regard to secretary clintons campaign, i think the president was speaking in a more Global Fashion when he talked about it in a sports kind of analogy. Every pundit, every poll, every anybody just about who was involved in this, was predicting still toward the end that Hillary Clinton was going to win and right, but mayor, even David Axelrod said he thinks theres an implicit criticism there of Hillary Clinton coming from obama. David axelrod is the one who did the interview. There will be many people who will weigh in on, you know, what could have happened, what should have happened and the president in another part of that interview acknowledged that it was a little bit of mondaymorning quarterbacking. I think to some extent he was also, again, talking about himself and his style of campaigning and the things that he did, you know, 08 and 12 which obviously, again, were very, very successful. He also did praise secretary clinton and added in the fact that he thought that there was a double standard in terms of how she was treated during the course of the campaign. David gergen, not to be left out of this, Hillary Clintons Campaign Press secretary weighed in on twitter as well. Fallon tweeted this this afternoon about this who would have won question. He said this, i agree obama would have beaten trump. I also think clinton could have, but for comey, of course, hes talking about fbi director james comey, despite his win, trump is weak, dems must rally. So, david, since theyve all now entered this conversation, whos right here . Trump, obama, or team clinton . I dont think its much of a conversation. I think its more like towel snapping in the locker room before the big game, big new game opens on january 20th. Dont talk about the locker room. Exactly. Hillarys gotten in there, too, so its going to be interesting, but i think the real significance here, two things, one is that the president obama made it clear today hes not staying on the sidelines during the trump years. You know, george w. Bush made a habit of never speaking out at all. He thought that was a proper way to go. I think president obama is itching to make sure that donald trump doesnt undo a lot of his initiatives. He believes in them very strongly. Hes going to fight for them. At the same time, i thought today for the first time we heard from donald trump, first time hes starting to switch back to where he ought to be. He ought to stop talking about Nuclear Weapons and stop talking about israel for now. He ought to be talking about the economy and what he plans to do within the first 100 days. Build up the suspense. Im surprised he hasnt. That last tweet we heard about tonight, maybe hes moving in that direction. So, salena david, dont you i mean, where wheres any level of maturity, discipline, i mean, the Electoral College has voted. You are going to be president. I know senator santorum wants to say, well, you know, suddenly like a light switch, you know, noon on january 20th, hes going to suddenly become this much more reserved and mature person. Thats not going to happen. Someone needs to be an adult here with this operation and help wean him off of his addiction to twitter and grow up and prepare to act like the president of the United States of america. Let me get salena hold on one second. I see you, senator, i see your face. Salena, get if on this. You spent a lot of time capturing what drew a lot of voters to donald trump during this campaign. To the mayors point, do you think do you think the people who voted him into office want to see him change . Do they want to see a different donald trump on january 20th as they see today . No, ive seen no evidence of them wanting him to change. Now, that may happen once he becomes president and fires off a series of tweets that they find that are inappropriate. You know, republican American Voters are in, like, a complex situation right now. Because they really want to change, they loved that strength that he emoted and sort of outsidethebox attitude and process he employed but they also love tradition. So its going to be kind of fascinating to see how they marry both wants as trump goes forward and see how he does, too. We dont know how hes going to behave. We know how he has behaved as president elect and as a candidate. Well just see. I have actually a bit of a different take on what we heard from Donald Trumps tweet about about taking about kind of, like, taking on obama and talking about the economy. Senator santorum, as i was looking back on his twitter feed, the president and president elect have been very careful, everyone is talking about this, to playing nice with each other since the election. With these tweets where trump is taking on obama, obama is saying that he could have beat trump, are we seeing that today . For the first time, kind of taking each other on a bit directly . Oh, i dont think so. He president obama, i think, was pretty clear in his interview that hes going to back down and go quiet for a year or more and i think hell realize hopefully if he does go quiet that he had tremendous personal popularity, but many of his policies were deeply unpopular. What he just did to the state of israel will be a disaster for the democrats as they come into this congress. They will be very much on the defense. They will be running from this president. You know, if you look at the Election Results other than him, democrats around this country, theyre losing theyve lost seats everywhere. I mean, in congress, in state legislatures, governors, everything, senators. I mean, this has not been barack obama as he would like to portray it leading this Democratic Party into this new progressive era and all these programs being popular. Quite the contrary. He is popular. His programs are not. And so i dont think hes going to be able to speak out loudly or boldly, not just for the next couple years but beyond that on issues that are important to him. David, what do you you get the final thought here, david, because okay. Axelrod said today that obamas looking to the bushes as kind of his model of what to take what to be in postpresidency. Theyve been very quiet and very specific and careful in when they speak out. But obama also said in this interview that he is going to speak out. Hes going to talk about issues he cares about. How do you balance it . I think hes hell only move in on the big issues. Hes not going to get on to twitter and things like that. Hell, you know, Franklin Roosevelt once said that the presidency is a place of moral leadership and i think thats to decide the big issues of our time. To come down one way or the other on the big issues of our time whether it be climate or gender issues or jobs or a lot of other things. And i think he is going to weigh in. Its very clear that hes going to he may observe the george w. Bush rule for about a year, but after that, i think its fair game because he believes so strongly in what his vision in and doesnt want to see it destroyed. Thank you very much. Thanks for joining me tonight. Hes 55 years old. Hes not going away. Final thought from michael nutter, hes not going away. Thanks, guys, great to see you. Next, breaking news, president elect donald trump calling the u. N. Just a club for people to have a good time. This as israel said obama orchestrated a, quote, gangup at the u. N. Plus trump tries to entangle from his controversial foundation. Why he may be blocked from shutting it down. And pop star George Michael found dead at his home. My guest, the journalist who interviewed michael during a crucial turning point in his life. I spent the first half of my career being accused of being gay when i hadnt had anything like a gay relationship. 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Condemned israeli settlement construction and the u. S. Broke with tradition and did nothing to stop it. Israel tonight accusing the Obama Administration of being behind the controversial move. Outfront from jerusalem. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu accusing president barack obama of working behind israels back to put forward the u. N. Security Council Resolution critical of israeli settlements in the west bank and east jer ri jerusal jerusalem. They always had a rocky relationship. In the final days its deteriorating. Netanyahu hasnt held back at all. As i told john kerry on thursday, friends dont take friends to the Security Council. Reporter israeli am babassa to the u. S. Speaking to cnn, one whos made the accusations but not offered any evidence. Look, its an old story that the United Nations gangs up against israel. What is new is the United States did not stand up and oppose that gangup and what is outrageous is that the United States was actually behind that gangup. I think it was a very sad day and really a shameful chapter in ambassador, whats the evidence that the United States was behind this gangup . Ive heard that a lot. We have clear evidence of it. We will present that evidence to the new administration. Reporter netanyahu turned to president elect donald trump who urged obama to veto the u. N. Resolution and then weighed in on twitter. First he tweeted, as to the u. N. , things will be different after january 20th. He followed that up with another tweet, the big loss yesterday to israel and the United Nations will make it much harder to negotiate peace. Too bad. We will get it done, anyway. Netanyahu hasnt just lashed out at the u. S. , israel called in the u. S. Ambassador and ambassadors of ten other countries that voted for the u. N. Resolution. Those countries met with the Foreign Ministry. It was only the u. S. Ambassador who met privately with netanyahu. One more statement directed at president barack obama before he leaves office. 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