His personal lawyer on the russia investigation Rudy Guiliani has a whole new list of demands from mueller and hes also saying hes worried about a perjury trap being set for the president by mueller. Unless mueller is open to the possibility that comey lied about his interactions with trump the president will refuse to submit to a mueller interview. Could they have an open mind to the fact that he may be telling the truth and that he lied. If they have an open mind to that then this is something that we can consider. We would be foolish to have them be in it. All of those questions that were leaked to the media categorically off the table. What would be acceptable permeameters for an interview. Two hours. And topics. Questions in advance. Relevant topics. Which she continued to say probably wouldnt even include russia. Guilianis tough talk coming on another day of chaos for trumps legal team. His lead lawyer is out which was frankly a Shocking Development considering cobb gave an interview to abc news about whether trump will answer muellers questions and heres what he said. People were working hard to make decisions and work towards an interview. Its clear they were on opposite side of this issue. Cobb emphasizing diplomatically and giuliani claims to be open to an interview making pretty clear it wont be muellers way. Its trumps way or the highway and rocobb is the one out of a b now. He had been clashing with the president in recent weeks over his combative attitude toward the special council investigation. We were told by this source that he was uncomfortable with the mueller tweets. Adding he was not going to be part of a mud slinging campaign. Lets be clear, the mud slinging campaign here has been lead by the president of the United States. Its against the russia investigation and he has intensified his Campaign Just today trump tweeting, quote, there was no collusion. It is a hoax and theres no obstruction of justice. That is a setup and trap. Witch hunt. Lets take the last two words. Witch hunt. Since taking office the president of the United States called the investigation into russia a witch hunt 51 times. And twitter and interviews and speeches while taking questions. Its a total witch hunt for a long time. They have this witch hunt. They have this witch hunt. Thats all it is. They have phony witch hunts. Its a witch hunt. The entire thing has been a witch hunt. The president thinks that his way is working. Just look at this poll this week. 6 points up in one month, all right . The American People up 6 points. People saying the investigation should end. Thats an incredible increase in just one month and tonight trump thinks his way is working and hes ready for battle. Ty cobb is out. Flood is coming in. Hes a powerful washington lawyer and represented bill clinton during his impeachment. And he says fasten your seat belts folks, its war. Jeff is at the white house tonight and they have chaos. The president and giuliani openly taking on the special council and thumbing their nose at him in so many ways. A new hire and a guy kicked out or quitting, this new hire widely seen as a forced to be reckoned with. He is widely seen as a forced to be reckoned with and this is why. Flood really worked on all sides of the legal matters at play here. Consider this, as you said he worked as an impeachment lawyer for bill clinton. The next administration he worked inside the white house counsels office. He also worked as a private lawyer for the Vice President at the time in the chaney administration. So the reality here erin is this, he is a serious lawyer, a tough lawyer and this represents a change of strategy in every respect so the president calls it a witch hunt. He tried to dismiss it as a hoax but today he did the thing that probably signals hes taking it as seriously as ever. He hired a new lawyer on top of other lawyers he hired in recent weeks of course. The president weighing in. He usually sends these messages in the morning on twitter. He sent an evening one a short time ago. It sort of potentially speaks to his state of mind. He says this, hes quoting a former member of his legal team 0 who is talking about this isnt some game. Youre screwing with the work of the president of the United States. With north korea, china, the middle east, so much going on theres not much time to be thinking about this saying no collusion again. So sending a message again perhaps. Requoting what john dowd said in the washington post. Its a fully engaged effort here. More so than we have seen before. The question will the president sit down and testify or will he go to court and fight it . Well find that out in the coming weeks. Thank you. Something that may influence how the president is going to fight the breaking news we have right now about muellers investigation. This is pretty stunning. Someone that just completed their interview today with the special councsel investigators says the focus is russian collusion. You just spoke to Donald Trumps former campaign aid. He was just interviewed by special counsel investigators today and wow he is telling you some pretty important things. He made it very clear that he believes theyre still very much investigating russia collusion. He said to me its clear theyre still really focused on russia collusion and he talked about how they have their information. They are really digging people into this issue. He said they know more about the Trump Campaign than anyone who ever worked there and erin, he also said that theyre fishing as part of their investigation but the special counsel is spearphishing. What he meant to say is they know what they are aiming at and they are deadly accurate. Those are his words. He believes that theyre Serious Investigation going on and gotten a lot of information. And caputo himself has denied that theres any evidence of collusion. And he denied any wrong doing on his part. He is however a very close ally of roger stone. Stone a long time friend of President Trump. Stone has been under scrutiny as part of this investigation because contacts he may have had with wikileaks. Now caputo wouldnt come mebt abo come comment and made it clear that russia is still part of the investigation. You have Rudy Giuliani saying russia shouldnt even be a relevant topic for part of the interview. And then you have Michael Caputo saying this. A stunning development. Thank you. Former Deputy Assistant attorney general. Whats your reaction to this . Michael caputo was with special Council Investigators today. Theyre still focused on russia collusion. Theyre focused on russia but i talked to lawyers because we can all talk to each other and yes, the fbi has anybody who is a republican that when to russia for any reason including someone i just heard the other day that went on a humanitarian reason and didnt get any money for it and it was questioned why didnt you charge anything . But i have a different look. So youre saying okay, Michael Caputo, i dont see why he wouldnt. Youre just saying theyre wrong and theyll focus. Theyre asking about russia. I would assume caputo is telling you he doesnt know anything about russia collusion. Unless he got out there and said yes i was participating in it. Hes making it clear he didnt say that. Thats what theyre focused on. He said of special council they know more about the Trump Campaign than anyone who ever worked there. He continued to say the senate and the house are net fishing referring to their investigations. Quote, the special council is spearphishing. They know what they are aiming at and theyre deadly accurate. Its a different kind of investigation. Theyre giving deference to the Mueller Investigation as far as anybody that was caught up in that investigation they didnt ask to interview. So its a very different type. Ive done both kinds. What about crucial lines here. I want to get at this. He says they know what they are aiming at. Theyre deadly accurate. They know more about the campaign than anyone that ever worked there. Those are serious things. Hes not saying that theyre clueless or have a political agenda, hes saying they know what theyre doing. Well, i dont know that he knows what he is talking about. Hes not a lawyer hes saying they know a lot about the campaign. I just told you they did. Anybody thats a republican whether they worked on the campaign or not they have been questioned about anything that they have done. Not only russia but ukraine, any other country ever connected with russia they have been interviewed. That doesnt mean theres anything there, erin. So your take away is that its deadly accurate. Hes really paying high legal fees. 130,000 or whatever it is for a couple of earrings. Were not getting that. So i dont know. I dont know if he thoughs what hes talking about. If the change in trumps legal team do you think hes upping the aggression here going to war with mueller . Cobb out, giuliani saying only sit for two hours . Theres a time to sew and theres a time to harvest. For the first month of this investigation it was a time to cooperate and turn things over. Everyone knew that this day would come when you had to decide whether the president was going to sit down with mueller or fight a subpoena. This isnt any different. Its just because of the timing and all of these people pining about ty cobb and being mad and one day like hes upset or the other day he was kicked out, thats not true. I know these people. I have known ty for years. And these people all get along. They all have a high regard for each other and they just have different personalities in the way they express themselves. You cannot read into it. I know how these people feel about the issues and the subpoena and the testifying you cannot read into it. So are you saying that fighting a subpoena is the way to go. For me . These are restrictions that hes putting out there are out rage rages you outrageous. Im going to say thats absurd. These questions are all improper. Number one, they violate the article 2 power of the presidency. He should not be questioned about who he hires or fires. He can hire and fire people for any reason whatsoever. No reason and he can change his mind about the reason. Even if theyre agents of the russian government who was a agent of the russian government . I dont know whether Paul Manafort was or general flynn was. Flynn . These are issues being discussed right now. If thats what they were you dont think its fair to ask the president about it. I guess he should have fired him then, right . How can he be questioned about exercising article 2 authority . Do you know who tried to do this for bill clinton . Do you remember the mark richt pardon and his exwife gave him 450,000 for the foundation and 100,000 to hillary for her senate run and so jim comey opened up an investigation of bill clinton regarding the power and was questioning the pardon power. It is unfettered. Just like the hiring and firing thats an improper question that theyre asking. To your point on jim comey, Rudy Giuliani he said only if theyre open to jim comey being the one that lied in this whole interaction with the president and the loyalty pledge, that whole back and forth. Is there anyway . The point is what hes say as good were going to take this to a subpoena and were going to fight it. Why would bob mueller say im open to that . Why would he even respond to that in anyway, shape, or form . Theyre negotiating. People are negotiating and doing it more in the public. Thats a good thing so the public can see the back and forth of whats going on but the public needs to know these questions are improper. You cannot ask the president what process did he go through in order to fire michael flynn. Thats executive privilege and theres case law in washington d. C. That says the president cannot be questioned. He is not readily available for questi questioning unless its material to the matter and this is the important one, the evidence cannot be gotten elsewhere. All right. So lets just ask you a tienl question here, the 49 questions then if this is all part of a negotiation, somebody leaked them. The change on the legal team was rudy fwrgiuliani being in. He leaked them i assume. I have no idea. I want to make one comment about the witch hunt . Do you know where the president got that phrase . Its an age old phrase. 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Patrick, let me start with you, youre reaction to this. Michael caputo coming out as we said a long time supporter of roger stone in that inner circle there with trump. Theyre focused on russia collusion. They know more about the Trump Campaign than anyone that ever worked there. Theyre spearphishing, theyre deadly accurate. This is significant because it goes to how careful and detailed mueller and his lawyers are being in terms of reconstructing who did what inside the Trump Campaign, who would have been hyping information to donald trump about what they had during the course of the campaign both foreign and domestic and then also putting on the table that russia and campaign ties to russia are the centerpiece to this. For a long time we have been talking about obstruction of justice because theres so much as president actions that he himself took but the reality is and whats revealing about this is that the campaign that mueller is really understanding who did what and the contacts that could add up to collusion is a focus of this. We sometimes think maybe its because of what trump is saying that collusion isnt so much a part of this. And that does seem to be very significant here right . It is true. The conversation had shifted to obstruction of justice and maybe theyre looking at all of these other things still too but obstruction of justice had become a centerpiece of the conversation. What Michael Caputo is saying is that a focus here is very much still russia collusion. What does that say to you . It makes sense. Obstruction would be not the end game of a prudent prosecutor. That would be like if i just charge you with a speeding ticket and i ignore the crime you were trying to escape from. It was never intended to be the end game. But the object and focus is on the overall russian collusion. Thats a cloudlike term and umbrella topic but it includes so many different facets. Theyre being thorough. Theyre sticking to the mandate and being comprehensive and theyre direct and targeted in their focus. Its not a fishin