Lets go outfront. Good evening. Im erin burnett. Outfront tonight. The n worked. The president s spokesperson today was unable to say for certain there was no tape of the president using that vial and racist word. Can you stand at the podium and guarantee the American People they will never hear donald trump utter the n word on a recording in any context . I cant guarantee anything. But i can tell you that the president addressed this question directly. I can tell you that i have never heard it. Just to be clear, you cant guarantee it . Look, i havent been in every single room. I havent been in every single room. I cant guarantee anything. Let that sink in for a moment. The president s top spokesperson cannot say for sure he hasnt used the n word. It is incredible this is even a question and that we are even talking about it. Now as for taped evidence of such a thing, this is an explosive claim that is being made by the president s former Senior AdviserOmarosa Manigault newman. It seems basic, right . The president s press secretary would have asked the president if he used that word before she went out and took questions on the topic. Right . Go and ask them, then come back out. Have you asked the president if he has ever used the n word. The president addressed that question directly via twitter. I would refer you back to him. Have you asked him directly sarah. The president , i didnt have to. He addressed it to the American People all at one time. Why havent you asked him directly . Again, the president answered that question directly on twitter earlier today. She cant guarantee it. She wont say he didnt say it. She is right about one thing. The president answered the question definitively so on twitter saying quote mark burnic called to say there is no tapes of the apprentice where i used such a terrible and disbusting word as attributed by wacky and deranged omarosa. I dont have that word in my vocabulary and never have. Why wouldnt the president secretary say that . Does she not trust him . Does she think it is possible he would say such a thing because he has already said these thing on tape. She is a low iq individual, maxine waters. You had people who were fine people on both sides. Look at my africanamerican over here. Look at him. Wouldnt you love to see one of these nfl owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that son of a bitch off the field right now out. Easy fired. This all comes as omarosa is releasing a new recording. This time an october 2016 phone conversation where omarosa talks about the possibility of a tape where the president says the n word. This conversation is between several Campaign Officials including Katrina Pierson the Trump Campaign spokeswoman. Katrina will be on our show in just a moment. First to the white house. The president was adamant. Why dont sanders guarantee, why wont she say he didnt use that racist word . Thats the he request on everyones mind here. The president was definitive and clear in his tweet last night saying that word is not in his vocabulary. It seemed like a simple request for the press secretary to say she is quite sure no tape will come out of the president uttering that word. Instead sarah said she never heard him say it, that he had said he never said it but she wouldnt state definitively we will never hear President Trump saying that word in an audio recording. She also made stunning remarks while fielding questions about omarosas book. When she was asked about the president referring to one of the top africanamerican officials in this white house, someone who made 179,000 per year one of the highest salaries you can earn here in the west wing, referring to her as a dog as he did on twitter this morning, saying he was thankful john kelly fired her so quickly after he entered the west wing, Sarah Sanders said that wasnt a racist remark by the president because he insults people of all races and does not leave anyone saying he is an equal opportunist when it comes to those jabs. And also not answering a question whether she herself has signed an nda. Omarosa is facing backlash possible legal action by the Trump Campaign saying she vie will itted a nondisclosure. Sarah sanders herself not saying whether she had signed one either. Outfront now, Katrina Pierson, senior advise for for the trump 2020 campaign and you are also familiar with her as the spokesperson from the trump 2016 campaign. Good to see you again. Thanks for having me. Sarah sanders says i cant guarantee anything. He continues to say look i havent been in every single room. Are you willing to stay the president has never and would never use that word . I reject the question. How can you sit there and ask somebody if they know anything thats not about themselves . I can say the exact same thing sarah said. I never heard him say the word. I judge people by the way they treat me. The fact we are having this conversation is ridiculous and its because of omarosas ridiculous claims. There are plenty of things he said that put it within the realm of the possibilities. Are you comfortable that it doesnt fit within the realm of possibilities of anything you have ever heard him say . Its outside of the realm of possibility for me. I cant speak for anybody other than myself. I want to play the tape where you are talking with omarosa and another Trump Campaign aide, lin patton, about this issue, whether the president used the n word. I know you know the tape. Many of the viewers havent heard it. It just came out today. Let me play it. Im trying to find out at to help us maybe try to figure n out a way to spin it. Can you think of any time this might have happened . And he said no. Well thats not true. So how do you think i should handle it . I told him exactly what you said omarosa, which is well it depends on what scenario you are talking about. He said why dont you just go ahead and put it to bed. He said it. He said it. He said it. He is embarrassed. Thats you at the end, for anyone who couldnt hear it, thatsr you said, no, he said it. He is embarrassed. Can you explain what you said . Absolutely. Cbs was laid by omarosa today. Omarosa went around making a specific claim that i had been refuting for the last two days. Then she took two audios submitted it to them where it was conflated into one story. Since then, erin, the transcripts have been released thankfully because now we can see there were two different discussions being had. What i will say is i was refuting the claim that she, omarosa had said that i permanently had a Conference Call with jason miller and that i said that donald trump actually said a derogatory term. And that is false, and the transcript proves it on call number two. However, what you dont hear on these tapes is omarosa. You dont hear the hours upon hours of omarosas consistent, constant she really was a dog with a bone when it came to this tape. She was dooming and glooming. Okay. This is really important because this is the context of what we are talking about right now. It got to the point to where we had a campaign to run. What you hear in that tape, which is not the tape she has been referencing is me placating to her, which i did a be in of times, because she with would not let this tape go. Let me be clear. When you say you are know, you are saying that he said it, hes embarrassed was just you play kagt her. And when this tape came out today, right, then it was played. You put out a statement. Two tapes. In your statement, you used that word, katrina, in her secret tape recording of me it was one of the many times i would placate omarosa to move the discussion along because i was weary of her discussion of alleged tape. What im trying to understand, if you are weary and trying to placate her how is saying he said it placating . That is admitting . Its simple. If you look at the transcripts, which most people havent seen you see its omarosa who is the instigator her. She is literally arguing with lin patton. You say it katrina. Let me get to that. She is arguing with lin patton about him saying it. The president himself says he didnt. Omarosa is saying he did. What you hear me saying is me interrupting okay, okay, he said it, hes embarrassed lets move on. That was completely a different context. You are not saying he said it. You are saying oh, he said it, he said it its all about tone. Your viewers im pretty sure have run into an individual that is the complete epitome of annoying to where you absolutely have to finally give in in order to get on about your day. That happened a number of times because omarosa is a bully. She will get in your face if you are not telling her what she wants to hear. She had a mission. What we see now, the only thing omarosa accomplished today is she let everyone know what her tactic was. She would use things and stories and scary tapes to try to coax people into saying what she needed to build this narrative. You can tell that if you read the transcript because myself and lin patton both refer to her as to the information thats being referenced. Okay. So i want to understand why there is a discrepancy. Last night you told ed henry that the conversation with omarosa never happened, right . The being the tone or what you were play kating or not, you said it never happened. That was before the tape of this very conversation came out. Now there is a tape, you came out and put out a statement and you say oh, i said i said what i said because i was play kagt. I want to play the end of what you said. Here it is. He said it. Hes embarrassed. So what changed . Now we know the conversation did take place. Last night you said it didnt. Thats not the case. But that was before you knew there was a tape. Thats not the case. Thats not the same conversation. Thats why it is important to look at the transcript. It was the conversation there are two conversations the claim im refuting is omarosa made the claim that i had a Conference Call with jason miller and that i confirmed that he said it and that is a lie. The transcripts prove it. Totally separate discussions. You are saying that conversation with jason miller never happened. What you said last night is not in conflict with the tape today . Absolutely. I never confirmed that donald trump said a derogatory term to jason miller. It didnt happen. She is conflating two different ips at that. Thats how cbs got played. In the tape that was played which is about the n word when you say the president said it, hes embarrassed you are basically saying at that moment you were lying to omarosa to make her go away . Yeah, thats the placating. You have to read the full transcript. Thats beauty of this. Omarosa is the instigator. She is pushing the tape and i am the one that interrupted. You are saying it was a blow off sort of a american. It is not a blow off kinds of a thing is it . Absolutely. Thats the narrative. She consistently pushed this scenario, multiple scenarios. I was tired of it. We had an election to win. Thats why i stopped her from arguing with lin and said all right he said it he is embarrassed, move on. My colleagues said to me the only time i said that is because of the access hollywood tape. She was using it to conflate the narrative and the transcripts are proof. The president tweets she is wacky, not smart a loser, a low life, someone who missed work and meetings. Of course a dog. Are you comfortable with this . Im perfectly fine with it. He is nicer than i would have. This is a man that this is a man that spent years helping this woman biological her brand, make money, become a star, invested in her ventures, gave her a top job at the white house, and this is how shes repaying him . I think the president is actually going easy on her. So you dont think any of this is racist . No, i dont. Being not smart or a dog, you are comfortable with that . Not one bit. Did you ever sign an nda with trump . Yes, i did, actually. Basically, if you had heard him say the n word you wouldnt tell me about it any way. Im telling you the truth. Imnot up here to lie. Imtelling you the absolute truth. I signed an nda with the campaign because everybody did. I wouldnt come on the air as a black woman and tell you someone didnt say a derogatory term when they z. I would leave the campaign. Its that simple. I appreciate your time, katrina. Thank you, and good to talk to you again. Thank you. Next the white house defending trumps latest attack, which is calling omarosa a dog. This has absolutely nothing to do with race. Does it, or not . Plus a former executive of one of trumps casinos says he was offered money for silence and refused. So what happened next to him . Jack odonnell is my guest. And a cnn scuff tonight. A Senior Pentagon official under investigation for misusing her staff. What she is accused is the swampiest of the possible swamp behavior. When did you see the sign . When i needed to jumpstart sales. Build attendance for an event. Help people find their way. Fastsigns designed new directional signage. And got them back on track. 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The idea that you would only point a few of the things that the president has said negative about people that are minorities the fact is the president is an equal opportunity person that calls things like he sees it. He always fights fire with fire and he certainly doesnt hold back on doing that across the board. Outfront now, dana tara. Donald trump has made some racially insensitive comments in the past that it doesnt matter at this point whether it is racist or not. Its inappropriate. I think its definitely sexist. I think he was going for a female dog in that word as opposed to something outright racist. Donald trump seems to get off by saying derogatory things about people of color, from don lemon, to lebron james, to maxine waters, where he questions their intelligence. That doesnt go unnoticed. So and thats just part of thats just recent things. That doesnt count the history of comments that donald trump has made that we have rewill it gate many, many times throughout his entire life. So, you know, i think its fair to say its inappropriate, petulant and at no point should the president of the United States or executives be making he can accuses about the president of the United States using that language about anyone. Ben, he does like to call people dogs. Let me give you a couple of examples. Often. Let me play a couple of examples. There are tons. Im standing at the debates. Im watching marco sweating like a dog on my right. The last election should have been won except romney choked like a dog. He choked. He used it on twitter to describe ted cruz. Steve bannon. If there is heres the question i have for you. Sure. The best comeback that Sarah Sanders had is the dog thing isnt racist because he calls everybody a dog. Does that bother you . Yeah. Okay, it bothers you. It bothers me because this president of the United States of america. There is one thing, if you want to be offended by a group lets say we break it down to the issue of gender and race the Number One Group that should be offended by donald trump calling him a dog consistently is white conservatives who talked against him in the primary. The second group that should be angry at him by statistics should thenning white journalists who are the second most Offended Group that he refers to as a dog. The third group should then be the third group. And the fourth group is a minority africanamerican woman named omarosa. This is how the president fights back. It is not racist. Because its proof that he goes after conservative white men with the word dog more than any other group. Then white journalists more than any other group. Then there is a couple of women that you can find. And for people to act like they care about him calling someone a dog and throwing in the racism card and the sexism dog, why werent you outraged when he was doing it on an almost daily basis against people he was running against, white men . I was right here. I know where i was. I was here on this network throughout the campaign saying that Donald Trumps behavior was unbecoming and it was not acceptable and it was diminishing of the office of the presidency, even when he was a candidate. I didnt support him, and everyone knows that. As a conservative i also pointed out the hypocrisy of conservatives who were supposed to be we were supposed to be the party of family values and morals, moral majority making excuse force him behaving like this. Evangelicals making excuses for this behavior. Where is that community. They should be coming out saying that the pre