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CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront March 15, 2019

This is the alleged White Nationalist who slaughtered 49 people and seriously wounded 20 more in the mass shooting at two mosques in new zealand. Tonight, President Trumps response was to minimize the issue of White Nationalism. White nationalism is a rising threat around the world . I dont really. I think its a small group of people that have very, very serious problems. Dismissive answer on a day when 49 people were gunned down by an alleged White Nationalist. The president had an opportunity to denoubs White Nationalism, loudly, clearly with the emotion it deserved on a day like this, something that should be easy and is important to hear from the president of the United States. After all, the suspected new zealand shooter praised trump in his 87 page manifesto as a, quote, symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose. But it wasnt just the president s dismissal of White Nationalism that was so jarring during his 27 minute appearance to talk about his wall today. It was his embrace of the same word, the suspected shooter used in his manifesto when ranting against immigrants. That word is invade. Its a word trump used today to talk about immigrants on the u. S. Southern border. Were on track for a million illegal aliens to rush our borders. People hate the word invasion, but thats what it is. Its an invasion of drugs and criminals and people. And when it comes to the 49 innocent people murdered by that White Nationalist in new zealand, they were muslims, another group where the president has stoke the the flames. If you have people coming out of mosques with hatred and death in their eyes and on their minds, were going to have to do something. I think islam hates us. Theres something theres something there. There is a tremendous hatred there. Its radical islamic terrorism. Okay . Theres a lot of hatred. Right now the suspect in new zealand is in court. Were out front in christchurch. What are you learning about the Court Appearance now . Reporter the 20yearold male has been charged with murder. New Zealand Police are saying that there are more charges to come. He actually finished his brief appearance in the Christchurch District Court right behind us not too long ago, so theres quite a crowd around us, everybody trying to wait and see if they can catch a glimpse of him leaving. We did see an armored truck. Were not sure if thats what hes being transported in. For all we know he could have already been whisked away. What we do know about his appearance is its brief. He was in jail attire. He was silent and according to our cnn journalists that we had in the courtroom, he had a neutral expression for the most part. Since then hes since been taken back into custody and hes expected to reappear in court on april 5th. Thats what we have right now. All right. Bliss, thank you very much. As you hear bliss describing, a neutral expression on his face. Tonight we are learning much more about that hatefilled manifesto, the one that used the word invade and praised the president. The manifesto the shooter left behind. Were out front. Reporter its a diatribe filled with hate, anger, vows of revenge. 87 neatly formatted pages of ranting about immigrants, minorities and muslims. More than 16,000 words that the 28yearold who says his name is Brenton Tarrant posted on social media before the attack. He calls immigrants invaders and says immigration must be crushed and like other White Nationalists he says theres agen know side of white people underway. Its the kind of toxic message heard in charlottesville and from the charleston massacre shooter, dylan roof. The new zealand shooter references roofs attack. And the norwegian mass murderer who killed 77. These are people who i would say have extremist views. Theyve had absolutely no place in new zealand and in fact have no place in the world. The u. S. President is also referenced once calling President Trump a symbol of renewed white identity though he says he doesnt consider trump a leader. The suspect claims to not belong to any organization and decided to carry out the shooting, which he admits, is terrorism on his own. An attack, he said, he had been thinking about for a couple of years and chose the targeted mosques three months ago. He expresses no remorse for those he planned to kill, even the children. With White Nationalism growing, he points to a number of global events that fueled his hate, including a terror attack in swedens capitol when an Asylum Seeker plowed a truck into a crowd killing 5. Erin, new zealand is usually such a calm and Peaceful Place and the fun man said thats why he chose it, to show that nowhere is safe. The choice of the weapons that he used in this slaughter, guns, he said it was made specifically to rile up the debate here in this country, the United States, over the second amendment. Erin. Alex, thank you very much. I want to go now to democratic congressman, andre carson. I appreciate your time. The president , as you heard, was asked specifically today about White Nationalism and said he doesnt think theres any rise of White Nationalism in the world. What do you think . I think its unfortunate when hes speaking about muslims, when hes speaking about islam, erin, hes speaking in absolute terms. Hes speaking very boldly. Hes making broad generalizatio generalizations. Unapologetically so. When he talks about white supremacy, supremacists, hes saying a few, some. This is disappointing. Hes been dog whistling enough talking about making America Great again, taking it to a great place that never existed but hes given the past, dog whistling to White Supremacists since his Campaign Began and i think the message of xenophobia, islamophobia as it relates to his president ial apparatus has been disappointing using trigger words like invasion, they, them, other. I think hes framing this as an us against them matter. He doesnt have to be as blatant with his relationship with White Supremacists, dog whistling is enough and hes met the objective. I mean, so, can i just play again what he said when he was asked. As i pointed out, right, he appeared today to speak not with a purpose of speaking about what happened in new zealand, right . He wanted to come out and speak about the wall, the southern border and his veto. So when he was asked about White Nationalism, heres the moment again. White nationalism a rising threat around the world . I dont really. I think its a small group of people that have very, very serious problems, i guess. Thats what youre referring to, right . So there he says small group of people. When he talks about muslims he says i think islam hates us. If you have people coming out of mosques with hatred and death in their eyes, were going to have to do something. Again, small, some. Islam, they. Hes speaking in broad terms about muslims and the religion of islam and White Supremacists hes saying small groups and some. Its unfortunate. Theres an imbalance in his language. Theres been an imbalance with his campaign apparatus. My hope is President Trump will think more seriously. In fact, when the Congressional Black Caucus met some time ago, i was in that meeting about his language relating to muslims. Keeping americans safe. Thwarting attacks that well never hear about on cnn, other news outlets. He responded hell think about what i said. I also encouraged him to continue funding for Law Enforcement officers. I think President Trump is smarter than he leads on given the fact hes had muslims work for his organization and his investments in muslim countries but im disappointed at the fact that hes speaking to a particular part of his base that is very extremist and they have proven themselves to be idealogues. He was the suspect, of course, cited him as, you know, a symbol, right . Symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose. This word echo of invade. Obviously that was what the shooter referenced in his manifesto when talking about immigrants, antiimmigrants. The president of the United States obviously happened to today talk about his wall and in a very, very erie and unfortunately word echo used the exact same word to talk about brown people. Let me play that again. Were on track for a million illegal aliens to rush our borders. People hate the word invasion, but thats what it is. Its an invasion of drugs, criminals, and people. Congressman, you just said hes smart. He is smart. He knows not to Say Something like that today so why did he say it . President trump is very smart. Ive met him many times. Hes gregarious, hes charismatic and hes smart. I think whats disappointing about it. Smart people can be misleading, smart people can be duplicitoud, smart people can be opportunistic when it comes to solidifying political power and rewarding those who helped him get and assume the power. Choosing to say that on a day like this this horrific day. He knows its a dog whistle. Thats white supremacy, isnt it . It is white supremacy. It is. Hes smart. Hes smart enough to say i stand with White Supremacists. He has to dog whistle. He knows he cannot get away with being as blatant. I dont think he would ever do that. What i do think hes not beyond is making sure that those folks in his base who probably cant be aligned with him publicly know that i still appreciate the support, i am with you, i am over here and theyve heard the message loudly and clearly. All right. Congressman, thank you very much. I appreciate your time tonight. Im so sorry for this. Thank you. This horrific thing and your community, what you are going through tonight. Thank you. Were standing firm. 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Police across the country increasing security following the terror attack in new zealand and this comes as we are learning the fbi has seen an increase in domestic terror arrests in the past few months. Josh campbell is the one out front with this news. Josh, tell us about it. What about this rise . Reporter erin, were getting data from the fbi. This is a snapshot in time. This is looking back to the last available data for the last few months of 2018. Were hearing there were 25 arrests of the domestic terror side. This is what the fbi is dealing with. On the domestic side, the officials were describing the volume of arrests theyre having to deal with. Its important to note its too soon to draw an annual take away. It is on par with some of the arrests theyve seen. New data were receiving there, it shows and as weve learned as weve talked to officials, although a lot of it is on the International Terror side, it stops radicalization here at home on the domestic terrorism front. Briefly on the mitigation strategies, domestic terrorism is different than International Terrorism. When you think of an individual communicating with a Terrorism Group over seas, those produce a vector to intercept cases, build cases, share cases. When you talk about a domestic Terrorism Group that is insular in nature, its hard for officials to tap into that type of network. What were told is this makes the public more important. If you see people gathering weapons, talking about hatred. The officials want to know that. Josh, thank you very much. I want to go to julia kayan and bob bahre, former cia operative. You have this increase in arrests and you have the rhetoric of what were seeing. What is driving this yup particular, do you think . So theres probably a variety of factors. One is obviously the globalization of information and therefore hate so that the individuals standing alone feel like theyre part of a community. The second is the Law Enforcement and National Security to focus violent extremism on the Isis Al Qaeda side of the ledger rather than the right wing extremism side of the ledger and the third is clearly a political atmosphere, whether its here, in europe or elsewhere that does not condemn, albeit safe here, does not condemn this kind of language. I think those three factors explain a rise in those other factors like the economy and globalization. Right. Thats why we have to view this as a movement rather than isolating each case as a lone wolf. If we dont see it as a movement we wont put the resources or knowledge behind stopping it. Look, bob, you know, the suspect in new zealand, 28yearold man. From what we understand, what we are being told by the Prime Minister there, this person spent a lot of time traveling around the world. This person thought about doing this attack in a lot of places. One of them could be here. He chose new zealand because its a quiet place. He wanted to make a point about the United States and guns. This is not like this is some person who is a lone wolf. This is a person who could have done this anywhere. Absolutely, erin. Weve talked about this before getting weapons in this country is very easy. You go to a gun show, buy one, even in fact use a car. Thats never a problem. What he was doing in new zealand is trying to incite americans to pick up arms against outsiders and in this movement its much more dangerous right now than the islamic state. As juliet was saying, we can intercept communications from overseas, but domestically the fbi needs a warrant and theyre hard to get and its hard to penetrate these groups. Look, juliet, this is also the point when bob says this is much more dangerous right now than islamic terror. You have a lot of rhetoric out there that at best is problematic. No rise in White Nationalism. Using the word invade today to

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