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Ukraine until ukrainian victory, full stop go ahead were going to deal with two hours ago under a yermak said literally on a the peace summit, something will happen that some representatives Russian Federation will be invited. Whoever will be representing the country of aggressors. And if they would like to stop the war, id come back to just a piece in your interview to fox news, you told that we can not trust putin because he wouldnt give up up his money, alcohol, ideas of occupy the whole of ukraine. So what will be the moves towards russians bringing them to the Negotiation Table . Thank you for answer. Questions first of all, when it comes to samaj, i think its correct. To get stronger on the battlefields that all depends on us, on our partners and its correct to get stronger diplomatically, we dont want to get any format, any formula of pieces imposed on us, all our partners all the countries who are not here and not waging the war and i dont wish any war upon them, but its very Important Initiative should come only from ukraine. We initiated during g 19 in indonesia today, week in this moment of the first peace summit, which was in a gray, which will be integrational summit, and i hope that it will be happening in springless year. We cannot lose this Diplomatic Initiative and being mood in the summit will take place in switzerland. The second summit we would like to have sibley not, maybe not in europe somewhere else on different continents. And i think thats nearest month for weeks we will get information on this first summit, will work on the plans. And then technically its countries will be looking to every type of crisis that this war brought in well get the final document on the example of our grant for ukraine initiative, were told that we dont trust putin and we agreed upon our fats and we agreed with turkey and guterres, secretarygeneral of un and then our plan was passed on to the russian side. And it was we didnt care whoever was involved with initiative. And we showed that lets work in this format that if this doesnt work with still well be going towards the realization of this corridor without one efforts. And it happens for a year. It was working. Im very grateful to our partners and after about russia, what you saying we cant trust them, they just abandon this initiative. But we were ready to conduct this oh, Grain Corridor and we didnt bring down our partners. Were showed that we are for that just peace. We went for this format of this grain initiative. On our behalf so that you can trust russia but russia couldnt do anything about it. Grain went all the way. This is a positive bill that was a very important result during the war, very much like the summit. When countries will be working. Well get ready though, a final document, it doesnt mean that russia will accept this document nobody can guarantee whoever will be in charge and russia we dont know. But in any case, we are saying that this document will be produced very much like in a format of grain initiative. This document will be presented by members of the negotiation we dont have a clear format will be presented to the russian side, will be ready for a second summit two guys, certain diplomatic steps towards the just peace and ending the war, gambling we wont many countries to be with us on this. We want to go forward. I dont want that after the elections in Different Countries in the world. And lets just a year of different elections. I dont want ms happening from the less democratic countries, or maybe very democratic countries, some alternative initiatives. Their own initiative which will not correspond to the correspond to the interests of country in the war. Thank you. Maybe see woodland abc went from abc news. Is ukraine losing this war the age you get one ever seems enough to keep you in the fight and not to win. It is it time to make a deal with Vladimir Putin . And how concerned are you about the elections in the United States in november almost no audit is. When we talk to a deaf person gmos now come way. Theres little hope to a person who kills that. His opponents do you have translation . You dont have your good but i dont hear i think you are interested in in not only in the question i always take, i will wait okay. You have translation. Thank you so much. What danielle thats why the question would ditch me deferral the format. We will suggest a formats on which he will agree that he lost this war. And that was a mistake. Cup hey, were cycling, which for him was a small mistake for us its a huge tragedy unfold. Democratic world is accused tragedy. Thats why we should achieve justice in this question ukraine will lose this war. Am naval have been know that the viral worse date was the 24th. When asked alternative february. So years ago, we dont have alternative not to win, your program. We dont we cannot lose. What does it mean . It wouldnt naturally will lose. We were not exist the key thing now where we dont accept for now to fight. For our, life, if. Ukraine lose, if it will be very difficult for else, if therell be a big amount of victory depends on you, on our partner is all know exactly knows on the Western World if will be Strong Enough with weapons we wont lose this war. We will win this war. Thats why all the steps backwards by putin that we happening, by putins flip. Now you obviously they will influence his society and thats probably one hell be talking about his interest. Hello, security. And if we look at hate messages are putins message just hes working with facts and numbers. And were talking about plans for year 2030. Thats down. So what hes got to do, he will see himself as a leader of russia up until 2030, but we will finish them dealing with him quite earlier. Radio. So boada, radio liberty. Next question that. Was ukraines president , volodymyr zelenskyy. And this is gps, the Global Public square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world. Im Fareed Zakaria coming to you live from new york i wonder, first, bring in cnns chief International Security correspondent, nick paton walsh, who is in zaporizhzhia near the frontlines nick, you are hearing what president zelenskyy was saying, a message of defiance commitment to continue the conflict and just pointing out if they if ukraine has the weapons, there will be able to win this war. What does it look like to you . Way, where you stand . What are people talking about . Closer to the frontlines . Yeah. I mean, important to point out for listening to president zelenskyy there. We got the first initial idea or the germs seeds potentially of some sort of diplomacy potentially, or even a peace plan. Now, the details are limited at this stage, but zelenskyy spoke of a potential summit in switzerland in the spring. And i think conceived the idea of a unilateral path towards a peaceful settlement with russia. One, i think that he seemed to outline ukraine and their partners would propose. And then of course he said, look and maybe that russia entirely rejects that document. And while i think its important to point out that moscow and kyiv a very far apart in terms of what they conceive their end goals in this to be. I think its fair to say using the stage on this extraordinary platform, he has on the first day of the third year of the war to propose the possibility of a diplomatic process, even if it is one thats entirely unilateral, thats essentially ukraine saying to moscow, this is a proposal you could take if you wanted to stop this war. I think that is significant moment and its one i think hes clear to point out if i hurt you tim correctly, during that speech that doesnt mean ukraine stops the fight, doesnt mean necessarily that theyre willing to accept a terminology or formula from russia. But we are now potentially looking at a moment where well see the battlefield progress not particularly great for ukraine at the moment, multiple fronts here multiple areas along the front where theyre feeling pressure. But then possibly if this swiss summit continues in the spring, i think listening to zelenskyy, it was unclear if they thought russian necessarily would be in attendance or they might be invited or thats something clearly to still be worked out. But its interesting to hear volodymyr zelenskyy, who has been speaking for awhile about a quite maximalist position. Essentially clearing russia out of all of ukraine as its 91 borders stood. Now talking about the possibility of presenting a way out of this conflict. Now, early stages lots of details to be hammered out, but that was the first question that he got and to me, i felt that was a departure from what weve heard in the past from ukrainian officials. So interesting that he chooses this moment to put that forward and it comes for read at a time as you alluded to in your question, forgive me for not answer you directly. Great trouble for ukraine on the front lines at 60 billion from the us is utterly urgent, is it since the december hold up, weve we felt morale begin to erode a little on multiple fronts, ukrainians dont simply have the choice to give up and stop the fight because of the goals that russia has set of essentially what they called denazifying demilitarizing the country. That means for many ukrainian sara life. Frankly, fear, if not actual, potential violence towards them and so its a dire situation for them in terms of the aid before this speech, we heard multiple ukrainian officials take the stage and outline detailed problems they were facing in terms of components getting through to russia for their weapons, in terms of slowness of delivery, a lot moving here today, but interesting that the first real time we hear from zelenskyy on this day, where many eyes towards him after a long succession of european and western leaders yesterday in kyiv, talking about the continued support for ukraine, that the notion is sort of glimmer here. The possibility that some sort of diplomacy might happen in the months ahead, even if it seems its entirely natural and something that russia can either take or leave for it thank you, nick, i think you put it right. Its a glimmer. The peace summit was already planned and ukraine has previously made diplomatic proposals which are essentially that russia leave all of ukraine highly unlikely. Russia ill accept those, those proposals. So i think you put it exactly right. It is a glimmer. Probably no more than that. Thank you. Nick paton walsh next on gps. Im going to tell you how this kind of conflict seems to have become the new normal around the world. And what we can do about it when we come back read zakaria gps brought to you by Fisher Investments. Clearly different Money Management at Fisher Investments, we may look like other Money Managers, but were different you cant be that different. We are we have a team of specialists, not only in investing, but also in financial and Estate Planning and more your clients rely on you for all that . Yes. And as a fiduciary, we always put their interests first but you still saw commissionbased products, right . 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Its clear that we are an, in an age of geopolitical tension that resembles the cold war a time of constant continual threats to International Order but this time the west is treating each of these threats as oneoffs to be dealt with separately in the hope that soon normalcy will return but conflict is the new normal. Look around the war is going badly for ukraine, which is critically outgunned and outmanned its much larger adversary. Its key advantage, access to western arms and money is in peril the us Congress Seems unwilling to pass legislation to send more arms and money. The European Union is stepping in and filling parts of the gap. But europe does not have the military Industrial Complex to send ukraine the level of armaments it needs to fight russia. Ukraines army has held out heroically against russias onslaught. But as a senior european diplomat said to me, recently, ukrainians are brave and bold, but they are not supermen they will not be able to hold on if they dont have weapons and supplies putin is making sure that he can keep the war going, getting arms from north korea and recruiting men from as far as cuba. He continues to benefit from the fact that many of the worlds Major Economies from china and india to turkey in the gulf states are trading freely with russia. Theyve, russias aggression works. It tears up a norm that has largely stood for ad years. No change of borders by force meanwhile, in the middle east, many believed when the gaza war began that it would be short and the Prime Minister netanyahus government would fall neither is likely the Israel Defense forces humiliated by the Surprise Attack of october 7 are determined to completely eradicate hamas from gaza. That means months more bombing, fighting in bulldozing the tensions and internal debates that israels actions will produce in other countries will only rise. Bibi netanyahu, who is going nowhere most israelis may dislike him, but they approve of his war policies this week in a pointed rebuke to International Calls to pursue a twostate solution including from the us and britain israels knesset approved a resolution declaring that it was opposed to any unilateral recognition of a palestinian state with 99 out of 120 votes. Bibis coalition remember has only 64 members, so many Opposition Parliamentarians joined in. One less notice theatre has been in the north. Israel has been striking and killing hezbollah militants to the point that by one account, they have killed over 200 of them this campaign will continue and may even accelerate the idfs goal is to weaken hezbollah to the point that the roughly 80,000 israelis who fled their homes in northern israel can return but at some point, hezbollah might respond forcefully, which could trigger an isr

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