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In jupiter, florida, as the Roy Post Office building. The first lieutenant, the Brigadier General post office building. The Nicky Nick Daniel bacon post office. In the last congress, lawmakers passed 45 bills renaming post offices. It did not get around to a bill overhauling the postal system to keep it solvent. Thanks for watching state of the union im Candy Crowley in washington. Head to cnn. Com sotu. Fareed zakaria gps is next. This is gps the Global Public square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world. Im Fareed Zakaria coming to you from davos, switzerland. I interviewed one king, seven Prime Ministers and one head of government. Well see them in coming weeks. This week one king and one Prime Minister. Well start with the king of jordan, abdullah ii. His nation sits in turmoil between syria, egypt, iraq and saudi arabia. Despite some protests, jordan hasnt had its own arab spring. Everyone was watching the parliamentary elections this week. Will they satisfy protesters or inflame them . Well get the kings reaction. Then, the Prime Minister of r h russia Dmitry Medvedev. Some call it a new cold war. Whos to blame and will russia help in syria . Well discuss it all. Also, the algerian hostage crisis that left dozens dead. Is this a sign of a grave, new Terror Threat . Ill tell you my view. But, first, heres my take. Every year at davos people like me try to get a sense of the mood of the place. Take the temperature of people in this Frosty Mountain resort. Obviously, i will give you a highly impressionistic and personal picture, but one i find useful since davod does bring together leaders and government, business and media and even the Ngo Community from all corners of the world. It is genuinely global in a way that few conferences are. So, what is the mood . Well, theres a sense of calm, a relief that many storms that seem like they might be overwhelming like the euro crisis have been weathered. People from america are optimistic. Those from emerging markets more so, but everywhere there is a sense of caution. In pwcs annual global ceo survey released this week, 52 saw no change from the current tepid economic environment. 28 saw decline and 18 said things will get better. It is still an improvement from last year when 48 predicted a decline. The last few years of recovery followed by slow downs of political crisis, of new terror attacks from north africa have made people weary of excessive optimism. Things are stable, crises have been contained, theres some growth on the horizon, but no ones ready to declare that weve turned any corners. There are no bulls in davos. No countries taking center stage. One symbol of the mood, the big splashy parties that Companies Like google used to throw have been quietly discontinued. Not that google couldnt afford it, by the way. They just had their first year with 50 billion in revenues. Underlying this caution, i believe, is a sense that growth that people had gotten used to, Economic Growth of the past that countries and companies had hoped for in the future just doesnt seem likely. The imf released a new report this week with Growth Numbers that are low. Lower than they had projected only a few months ago. The world is coming to grips with the fact that the financial crisis might have ushered in not a few years, but a decade of slow growth. And were not quite halfway through it. Lets get started. The next big story in the ongoing changes in the arab world is the pivotal parliamentary election that took place in jordan this week. It was the First Time Ever jordan has allowed an International Observer to monitor. King of jordan abdullah ii said its government is transitioning but opposition groups including the largest, the Muslim Brotherhood boycotted the elections saying they favored the monarchy. That opposition is far from abdullahs only problem. He has syria to the north and iraq to the east and israel and the west bank to his west. I sat down with King Abdullah at davos on friday. Your majesty, when you look at the arab spring, is it fair to draw the inference, at this point in the game, that repression has not worked but bribery has. By which i mean to say that the states attempted repression are either the regimes are gone or teetering like syria. But those that have large oil wealth were able to provide various kinds, particularly in the gulf, have all survived. Well, i think you have to take a step back and look at history of how the middle east was divided up. And this is one of the problems we face in political reforms in jordan. Were still living in the shadows of the cold war and during the cold war, it was more sort of the monarchies to the west and to the soviet union. Maybe youve seen the reaction more in the republics than you have in the countries that are sort of either emirates or monarchies. But this is what makes maybe the transition to political reform more difficult. In my country, 90 of the people are still averse of being aligned to political parties. So, although we had this Wonderful Parliament outcome of 56 plus way beyond i think anybodys expectations, the challenge now and i see in jordan, specifically, the hard work for us is actually creating that Political Party culture. Where people and the word is in arabic and still instinctively something wrong. So, the challenge that we have over the next four years is actually the hard work. The easiest part of arab spring over the past year and a half is behind us. When you look at these elections that were just held, youre absolutely right. 56 turnout and allowed international monitors in. Second time. But this was fairly extensive and, yet, the Muslim Brotherhood has said they will boycott it and they intend on street protests. How serious a problem is that . If youre living in jordan today, they will tell you that is not a serious problem whatsoever. I think the weakest standing of any countries in the middle east is actually jordan. At the beginning, the doubters out there and the opposition didnt think that anybody would register to vote. We had an unprecedented registration 70 , which is much higher than any other country in the middle east. So the challenge is, how do i reach out to the oppositions that boycotted, that actually ended up being very small in numbers. But we want them to be part of this process. Anybody who is left out in the cold, it just doesnt bode well for any of us. The next change is how do they come in over the next four years and reinvent themselves, to be quite honest. You could live with the Muslim Brotherhood Prime Minister . I dont think that would happen by the right of the people. Their number is at a historically alltime low in jordan, but i believe theyre part of the mechanism and how do we reintroduce them into the reform aspects of the future. What would you like to see happen in syria . Youre facing an extraordinary kriss and i think people need to remember you now have 300,000 refugees from syria. You have gone through a decade in which you took in hundreds of thousands of iraqi refugees. The iraqis have just started going back and you now have this new influx. Do you think that the fall of assad will in some way end this crisis or will that launch the beginning of a larger Syrian Civil War . Well, the challenge that we have is that the longer this conflict goes on, the more the country will implode. And so for the first time, again, theres talk of is there going to be a fragmentation of syria. The breakup into different smaller states, which i think would be catastrophic and something wed be reeling from for decades to come. But the longer it goes the nastier it gets. Anybody saying bushars regime has weeks doesnt know the reality on the ground. They still have capability. So i give them a strong showing, at least for the first half of 2013. Why is it that the army has not gone to assad and said you have to leave . In other words, theres been relatively little defection at that highest level. Help us understand what the dynamic is that keeps the regime together . Well, the regime was based on leadership that gives us a lot of its strength. And, again, part of the problem is with some of the minorities, especially if you look at the christians and the jus, part of t the issue that were tackling with is seeing this influx of radical fighters coming into the country. So, if you were a christian who are sitting on the side of the fence and theyre not happy with the way bashar is dictating the future of his country. But the other alternative, radical Islamist Groups coming into jordan is syrias more frightening. I think thats what kept him on the sidelines and given more support to the regime because, you know, option two is worse. How much do you think like to have an option three. How much penetration into syria do you sense . Well, al qaeda is established in syria. Theyve been there for about a year. They are getting certain supplies of material, weapons and financing, unfortunately, from certain sectors. So, theyre forced to contend with. Even if we get the best government in damascus tomorrow, we have two to three years to securing our borders from them coming across and to clean them up. So, you know, jordan is today and has been committed since three weeks into the afghan campaign, weve been there for many, many years. But today when we look at j jordanian troops deploying, it will be in syria. Well be back from davos. 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President obama won and as a secondterm president there is always a tremendous advantage of pushing the process forward. This phase leading up until the inauguration israeli elections has been called a hallmark stage. Jordan with three leaders in europe, the british, the french and the germans are all marching towards washington february and march to say, mr. President , its time to really engage on the palestinian process. Prime minister netanyahu understands that and whatever he does to form his coalition, hes got to keep in mind that the International Community strongly led by the europeans and hopefully with the United States is going to be knocking on his door and that of the palestinians to move the process forward. Do you worry that in this election you did also have the rise of new voices in israel that openly talk about the permanent annexation of the west bank and gaza and talk about the fact that there is no palestinian state and that jordan is the palestinian state. Since arab spring, at the beginning of arab spring you heard many izrailies saying this is the best thing that happened to us. Many of us couldnt believe or fathom that line of reasoning. I would say most israelis look at the arab spring. The sense of israelis would want jordan to be destabilized as an alternative. The challenge today, can they create the twostate solution and, quite honestly, i dont think if, if were not too late, the twostate solution will only survive as long as the end of president obamas term. Beyond that, if we dont fix it in the next four years, i dont believe it will ever happen. A final question. I mentioned, you know, repression didnt work, bribery seems to have worked. You havent oppressed and you dont have the money to bribe. Do you feel like you managed this balancing act in jordan and you worry that all these pressures from syria, the israeli issue could destabilize it all . Well, it goes i think without saying that the past year and a half with the very difficult challenges to our economy, to egypt that got us into the Financial Difficulties were facing today and instabilities in syria have definitely added to the challenge. Jordan has always, i think, looked at whatever policies they have not to use other things that are happening in the area as an excuse. I think the difference between jordan and many other countries is we took a different approach. And we push for evolution, not revolution. And the only way you can do that is through the rule of law. So, National Committee was put together. And they changed a third of the constitution and created independent commission for elections and a new constitut N Constitutional Court and many other laws. So, we took the systematic approach mainly because of my experiences being educated in the west and looking at how western systems did it it was the rule of law. I was surprised by western think tanks and the european ambassadors in our country where they say that is very difficult. You think . I mean, this has been a major challenge and you cant have this by waving a magic wand. It will take hard work so that people start to, for the next elections, vote for candidates because theyre on left to right of these particular issues. So, that Political Party culture, that is the major challenge. And where were starting from low down in jordan, were still steps ahead of many countries in the middle east. So, its going to be tough for all of us. But thats the only way that i think we can do it. Your majesty, thank you very much. This was a fascinating conversation. Thank you. That was jordans King Abdullah ii. When we come back, new attacks in algeria have made many talk about the return of al qaeda. But the facts dont quite support the hyperbole. Support the hyperbole. Ill explain. [ watch ticking ] [ engine revs ] come in. Got the coffee. 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