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CNNW Fareed Zakaria GPS June 5, 2016

Codes. Richard haass and i will analyze. And also billionaires. A new book said studying them could reveal tons about the countries where they live. What do russians tell us about russia and what do saudi princes tell us about the desert kingdom and what does donald trump tell us about america. Youll find out. Finally, meet an actual billionaire. Airbnbs Nathan Blecharczyk on the modest beginnings of his new booming business and despite his great wealth, he still rents out a room in his own home. But first here is my take. As the conflict in syria has raged and spilled over the borders, ive been skeptical that there is an American Military solution to the complex political and religious problems at the heart of this crisis. I remain skeptical and im glad that the Obama Administration has been reluctant to engage in a largescale humanitarian intervention. But im saddened that it has not engaged in large scale humanitarian action. For most of the last 75 years, the United States has been the worlds humanitarian leader. It has provided the most foreign aid and resettled more refugees than any other country. Not any more. On refugees, the United States has become an international embarrassment. It has pledged to take in just 10,000 syrians, but last year actually accepted only 2,192 and is struggling to take in more despite the fact that thanks to the distance from the conflict, it could be highly selective. Meanwhile, canada, with a population of about a tenth of america, has already resettled 25,000 syrians. For its part, germany has registered nearly half a million applicants for asylum in 2015 alone. According to the new york time. But the worlds richest countries are being put to shame by some of the poorest. Lebanon now has more than a million registered refugees making up a quarter of the countrys population. Jordan is not far behind with about 650,000. And turkey houses nearly 3 million. These countries need aid on an entirely different scale than they are receiving right now. In addition, washington has traditionally taken the lead in setting the agenda for humanitarian action. Corralling other countries to make donations, accept refugees and provide forces for peacekeeping operations. The administration is now acting on several fronts. But it is still not commensurate with the enormous suffering. Syria is a human tragedy of epic, historic proportions. What washington can do is to try to respond to the crisis with a set of humanitarian efforts that are equal to the scale of this tragedy. President obama should address the American Public and describe the human suffering, remind us of our nations best traditions and urge that congress support him in providing more aid, receiving more refugees, and leading in greater collaborative efforts internationally. He should appoint george w. Bush and bill clinton the countrys special ambassadors for humanitarian action on syria. I know, i know, americas mood today is in exactly the opposite direction. Donald trump will criticize him, and republicans will raise the spector of terrorism but they are wrong and he should say so. Americans have actually always been weary of taking in refugees. Large majorities oppose taking in german refugees, that is to say jews in the 1930s and even following world war ii, after we had learned about the holocaust. 55 oppose taking in hungarians after the soviet invasion in that country in 1956, and 57 oppose taking in boat people from indo china after the fall of saigon, but americas leaders insisted and all of the groups were accepted, assimilated, and become vital parts of american society. The problem is not one that affects the political right or the Obama Administration. Where is bernie sanders, who is very concerned about americans who cant pay for college, but seems largely indifferent about syrians who cant manage to stay alive. Where are the worlds rock stars who sang we are the world . And staged a live aid concert to fight poverty in africa. Millions of syrian men, women and children, innocence are fleeing their homes and living in squalor and losing their lives. Where are all of us . For more go to cnn. Com fareed and read my Washington Post column this week. And lets get started. Donald trump is the presumptive gop nominee. On tuesday Hillary Clinton will almost surely become the Presumptive Democratic nominee. But america has at least one candidate who is an actual official announced nominee of his or her party. Last week in orlando, florida, the Libertarian Party named gary johnson as president ial contender. Johnson is a former governor of new mexico. He joins me today from santa fe. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me on. Whom are you trying to appeal to . You must feel there is an underserved voter in this election with the two choices presented. Who is that person you are trying to appeal to . Well, when 50 of americans now, when they are registering to vote are declaring themselves as independent, i think im trying to appeal to the majority of americans who i think are libertarian it is just that they dont know it. And libertarian, with a broad brush stroke, fiscally conservative, socially accepting liberal. And when you say that, what is the big break in terms of the orthodoxy of the Republican Party for you . You are prochoice. You are progay marriage. You are even in favor of the decriminalization of drugs. Yes. Legalizing marijuana and lets stop with the military interventions that at the end of the day make the world a less safe place. The unintended consequence of these military interventions. So i think that is all going to sound like music to the ears of many people on the left, who think the Republican Party is too socially conservative and interventionist. Now tell us what your views on economics are because libertarians have traditionally believed in a very, very small state. Socalled night watchman state that really takes care of defense, a few other things. Where do you stand on that . Well, the government is too big. It tries to accomplish too much. So at the end of the day, it taxes you and i too much. That is money out of your and my pocket that we could be spending on our own lives enjoying our own freedoms and liberties as we see fit. So with regard to Hillary Clinton and the democrats, at the end of the day, i think they are going to grow government because government is the solution to everything, which im not going to argue it is not. And at the end of the day, it is going to tax more. Hillary clinton, i also believe, has been the architect of our Foreign Policy, which in my opinion has made things worse, not better, in the world. So we are not isolationist by any means. Lets use diplomacy to the hilt, lets involve congress in declaration of war. Lets involve congress in how we move forward with regard to our military, something that they have completely abdicated to the executive and to the military. I believe we have treaties with 69 Foreign Countries that we are obligated to defend their borders and none of those treaties were negotiated or signed off on by congress. They were executive treaties. Let me ask you a little bit more about one of the things that you said. You talked about the decriminalization of marijuana but in another interview you said the world would be a better place if all drugs were legalized. And i want to understand, you know there is an epidemic of opioid use and heroin is a pretty dangerous drug when used often, even in small quantities. You are saying the that the world would be a better place if everything were legal. Well, it would be. 90 of the drug problem is prohibitionrelated, and not use related and that is not to discount the problems with use and abuse. But that should be the focus. So using this epidemic that right now is being is being really told to us by the government, its estimated that 450,000 people die every year from their use of tobacco. It is estimated 100,000 people die every year from alcohol use. It is estimated that 100,000 people die every year from their use of legal prescription drugs. Painkillers, antidepressants. How many people die every year from cocaine and heroin overdose . Well, its 8,000. It is 8,000 deaths. Which is significantly lower. Now im not advocating the legalization of any drugs outside of marijuana. But i think that the world i think that the United States will take a quantum leap when it comes to understanding drugs and drug abuse and i think when we come to that quantum leap, which we are here right now, i think marijuana is going to get legalized, i think we start by decriminalizing the use of other drugs. Who do you think, governor you are further away from idealogically, Hillary Clinton or donald trump . You know, i think it is about a 5050. And i would like to say, there are good things on both sides, but when it comes to hillary, i think at the end of the day, she is going to grow government. I think that taxes are going to go up. I think miliarially things arent going to change at all in the world. When it comes to donald trump, deporting 11 million illegal immigrants, that is really wrongheaded, building a fence across the border, his declaration that mexicans are murderers and rapists, when they are lawabiding citizens, more lawabiding than u. S. Citizens. They are not taking jobs that u. S. Citizens want. When he says he is going to kill the families of muslim terrorists, when he said hes going to bring back waterboarding or worse and said he is for free market but in the next sentence says he will force apple to make the iphones and the ipads in the United States, when when he says hes going to apply a 35 tariff on imported goods, who is going to pay for that . Well, on and on and on. It sounds to me like you have more problems with trump. Well, broadbased, i can point to specifics when it comes to trump. Hillary, i could probably point at all of those same specifics. Bill clinton was in new mexico here campaigning for hillary and he was talking about free electricity for those on the reservation. Well, free who pays for free . Nothing is free. And that seems to be the democrat mantra forever, is get it for free. And well give it to you for free. Well, there are those of us that at the end of the day have to pay for that. Governor, pleasure to have you on. Thanks for joining us. Fareed, wonderful to be on with you. Hope we can do this again. Thanks. Next on gps, we will talk more about those other president ial candidates and their Foreign Policy ideas. What would donald trump do as commanderinchief . Well, on thursday Hillary Clinton told us in a scathing attack on her presumptive opponent. Ill ask richard haas what he thought of it when we come back. Text mom. Boys have been really good today. Send. Lets get mark his own cell phone. Nice. Send. Brad could use a new bike. Send. [google] message. You decide. Theyre your kids. Why are you guys texting grandma . It was him. It was him. Keep your family connected. Appconnect. On the redesigned passat. From volkswagen. Once i left the hospital after a dvt blood clot. What about my wife. What were building together. And could this happen again . I was given warfarin in the hospital, but wondered, was this the best treatment for me . 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So what was your reaction to Hillary Clintons speech. More of a political speech than a Foreign Policy speech she didnt defend her record, she didnt lay out a vision, but she raised some serious questions about donald trump, about his temperament and his knowledge and his positions on various issues so i thought in terms of the campaign, it was probably her best moment to date. So in a sense, she made it a referendum on trump rather than on her. That seems a pretty smart strategy. Absolutely. And in a funny sort of way, each candidate will have the same strategy. So she will make the campaign a referendum on trump and his temperament, again, on his competence and knowledge and he is going to make it on her character and her past performance. So we are likely to have each candidate raising fundamental questions about the other. What i thought was so effective about it was she went after the sort of central narrative of donald trump which is america is in decline and she punctured it but in doing so she appropriates for herself american patriotism. She comes across as the person who believes in america, thinks it is exceptional, thinks it is bighearted and he comes across as the guy who doubts it, is pessimistic about america. It is sort of a role reversal. You have a democrat to the right of the republican. You have a democrat who sounds more like Ronald Reagan than the republican. She has put herself in some ways firmly in the Foreign Policy mainstream. And is essentially argued that the United States has prospered in the world strategically and economically for generations now. The world is not it is a dangerous place. But it is not an antiamerican, unfriendly place unbalanced in terms of our interest. Donald trump is arguing a much more negative view of the world, that is a place where americans get ripped off and we lose. Which is an odd argument to make in part because we did win the cold war, all things being equal we are the most powerful country in the world and we have pros period in every sense of the word now for decades. And you read Donald Trumps speech as well. You will also spent time with him. What are his Foreign Policy ideas . As best i can tell, it is a very transactional approach. Rather than think about relationships, you think about transactions. With allies or adversaries. It is a minimalist view of the world. Isolation is freighted so lets use the word minimalist. Concerned about interventions that have cost more than they benefit the United States. Suspicious of the world. Whether it is free trade or anything else. Essentially when the United States interacts with the world, we end up losing, economically losing, losing in terms of Human Resources and in terms of influence so he wants to have a narrower and more transactional approach with the world and in some ways an economic nationalist, outside of the traditional bipartisan mainstream. All right. I asked you this the last time you were on. I have to ask it again. Youve spent time with trump, he has named to this point only two people, senator sessions and you as the people he admires on Foreign Policy. Anything youve heard since that make you feel you could you could support him or you could endorse him or work for him. I think ive also spent time with Hillary Clinton and i gave you the same answer. Before you could work for my president , there would have to be a serious alignment in the Foreign Policy views. You wouldnt have to agree on every issue but you would have to agree on the big issues and also need to agree on the conception of the job but i would say from what

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