Sounds great, right . But that is 50 billion potential entry points for hackers. Well tell you about it. And america celebrated Independence Day this week. But are americans forgetting their own history. A fascinating conversation with billionaire philanthropist David Rubenstein. But first heres my take, in washington there is a conventional wisdom on north korea that spans both parties and much elite opinion. It goes to like, this north korea is a crack pot dictator with a strange hair cut. He is irrational and cannot be negotiated with. Meanwhile the only solution is more and more pressure. But what if the conventional wisdom is wrong . The north korean regime has survived for almost seven decades, preserving not only its government, but its dynasty. It has persisted through the fall of the soviet union, the arab spring and other dictatorships from taiwan to indonesian. The kim dynasty has been able to achieve striking success in its primary objective, survival. Kim jongun is a young man but has been highly effective at preserving his authority. Look at the world from north koreas perspective. The regime saw the collapse of the soviet empire and an even more unsettling transformation in its key ally, china, which went from being a fiery ideological soulmate to a pragmatic trading nation. China often votes for sanctions at the united nations. Donald trump now says he wants china to, quote, end this nonsense once and for all which again can only mean getting rid of the kim dominant in some way. So the north korea regime has tried to buy insurance. And in the realm of international affairs, the best insurance is nuclear weapons. North korea has accurately calculated that china and south korea are more terrified the chaos that would follow a war or its collapse than of north Koreas Nuclear arsenal. Perhaps the right way to look at north korea then is as a smart, rational, calculating government that is functioning shrewdally, given its priority regime survival. More pressure only strengthens its resolve to buy even more insurance. How to handle it under these circumstances . The first way to break the log jam in u. S. Policy would be to convince china to put real pressure on its ally. That wont happen by serving president xi chocolate cake at maralago. Under pressure north korea could collapse and the newly unified korea would resemble south korea. With a defense treaty with washington will have to promise beijing now that in the event of unification, it would withdraw its troops, change the nature of its treaty relationship with the new korea and working with china, eliminate Koreas Nuclear arsenal. But pressure will only work if theres some reason for north korea to make concessions. Pyongyang has indicated in the past that it seeks a formal end to the korean war. Remember, washington signed only an armistice in 1953. North korea also wants a recognition of the regime and lifting of sanctions. Obviously none of this should be offered right now, but there is no harm in talking to pyongyang and searching for ways to achieve the eradication of the nuclear program. But there is reason to hope that china will hope however is not a strategy. For more go to cnn. Com fareed and read my Washington Post column this week. And lets get started. It is not often on the show that we can break good news about iraq, but today is one of those days. Iraqs Prime Minister abadi arrived in mosul today and declared it liberated. This was avenue three years of control by isis. It was a bloody fight to recapture iraqs second largest city. But it is apparently over. Nic watson walsh is near mosul. Nic, that was said to be one of the worst bloody urban battles since world war ii. What did u. S. And iraqi traps learn about isis in the process of almost liberating the city . I know theres some fighting still going on. Reporter i think, frankly, its incredibly hard to fight an enemy that courts and welcomes death. This has been a major challenge, particularly in the old city where we still hear there are slight pockets of fighting despite Prime Ministers tweets saying they have liberated mosul. Its been an issue of suicide bombers, emerging from the rubble, detonating their own devices, using civilians as human shields. There are still so many questions that the point about how many civilians have been killed in the final moments of this very bloody battle about how many Iraqi Security forces have died too. Theres a moment of sort of a weight being lifted from the shoulders of iraq here, a nation burdened by 15 years of war here. Yes, they appear to have kicked isis out of its largest population center, declaring an end to the caliphate, three years and ten days since al abadi declared. Final moments of victory was supposed to happen when the iraqi forces reached the tigris river, running through mosul. Its theres enormous challenges ahead. Unnerve the shia, who now run the country after years of being oppressed under saddam hussein, finding a way of being generous in government and the military to bring this city back into the fold again. To build again. To use their money in the best way. Otherwise, many fear in the years ahead well see some form of isis come forward. That is what were dealing with perhaps a momentous moment for iraq and perhaps for the world, too, thats dealt with the offshoot of isis and ideology and terror attacks not just in the uk, london, paris, brussels, nice. I can go on. Its terrifying how the idea has spread. Today, the idea faces an enormous symbolic setback of them basically being finished apart from a few small towns where they maintain a presence, finished in iraq. Fareed . Its unfortunate that the symbolism doesnt include being able to fly iraqs flag because of course isis destroyed that mosque as one of its final acts of barbarism. Nick paton walsh, good to have you on. Thank you so much. Next on gps, the g20 meeting and the muchawaited and muchanticipated puttin trump meeting. Of independence. I myself am a nurse, my daughter is going to physicians assistant school. Were passing on family traditions. Do yno, not really. Head shoulders . I knew that not the one you think you know the tri action formula cleans removing up to 100 of flakes protects and even moisturizes for Sofia Vergara hair a trip back to the dthe doctors office, mean just for a shot. But why go back there, when you can stay home. With Neulasta Onpro . Strong chemo can put you at risk of serious infection. 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Go beyond brushing with act®. President trump landed in hamburg, germany ahead of the g20 meeting. How did he advance americas interests, how did he hinder them . Here to talk about this is our panel. Eliot abrams joins us from washington, he was the National Security advisor for george w. Bush and reportedly a top contender for the deputy secretary of state job in the trump administration. Ann applebaum, columnist for the Washington Post and Pulitzer Prize winning historian. Lets do this sequentially. Ann, what did you think of Donald Trumps speech in poland. I was struck by the way in which he spoke of the west really as a kind of civilization more than an idea. Yes, that was very striking to everybody who heard the speech. It was as if the west was a civilization or even almost a kind of tribal organization, which is at war with other people. And that was left slightly unclear as to who the other people were. It sounded as if he was talking about islamic radicalism. Of course american president s for years and years have been coming to warsaw, obama did it, george w. Bush did it. But they usually use different language, at length about nato, it was about our democracy, it was about polands journey from dictatorship to democracy, it saw the west as a kind of positive Political Group community. This was something very different. It sounded a little tribal. No mention of democracy or very little. Very glancing reference to nato and russia. It seemed to be offering something quite different. People here were quite confused by it. Elliott abrams, what did you make of that . It did sound like trump, and i think steve bannon might have written this speech, this was the west as religion, race, tribe, culture, not the west as democracy, liberty and the rule of law. And as somebody who, in the reagan administration, as i recall, had the portfolio of spreading democracy around the world, what do you make of it . I thought it was a very good speech, and im afraid i have to disagree with anne. He must have used the word freedom about 15 times. He talked a lot about the polish history, a history of resisting russian aggression and russian control. He did talk about culture. We all took courses in western civilization. It shouldnt be a great shock. He talked about culture but so did Pope John Paul talk about culture and western culture. This was not a u. N. General Assembly Speech that had universal values. It was a speech in poland which wants to be part of the west. So i think his criticisms are really extreme and wrong. Anne marie, lets go to the russia part of this, the putin meeting, how do you think it went . What do you make of trump going to europe and, you know, getting on well with putin . And he got on far better with putin than he did with our allies at nato and the g20. But i think the most important thing to me about his meeting with putin, is that the russians are celebrating. It was deemed a triumph for putin in russia. And he gave putin the two things that putin wants most. One, twob treated as an equal on the world stage with syria, with cyber security. You talk about the fox guarding the hen house, i cant imagine better. This is trump saying that we might have a joint task force. On cyber security. Yes. Well hand over some more of the keys to our cyber kingdom. But the other is that putin wants to be treated as an equal on the world stage and to have no questioning of what he does at home. And there was nothing, there was nothing about ukraine, there was nothing by human rights violations, there was nothing about the way he has cracked down and his corruption. The kinds of things that george h. W. Bush, george w. Bush, clinton, obama all pushed russia on the difference between the west universal human rights, right, which apply to everyone, and the way the russian government behaves. And there was none of that. He went to saudi arabia before he went to europe on the last trip. The reason for that, they promote him. They controlled. Hes transactional, doesnt care about human rights. He went to poland first. They bus in 15,000 people, and say trump, trump, trump. They control dissent, where its not about democracy. Then he goes to g20 and meets with Vladimir Putin, to go in and try and delegitimize the russian system is a win for putin. The other thing thats a win for putin is the fact that the United States gets more divided. Divided internally. Divided from the transatlantic relationship and europe is divided, too. If youre putin, who wants a more multipolar system where everyone has a sphere of influence in their backyard, russian doesnt get bothered by the americans. China is their biggest problem. From that perspective, its positive. Look at trumps tweet this morning, where he says until we syria, i cant move on sanctions. Look at what he had to say to the russians, had to at least say, look i actually did push them on the hacks. We know he doesnt care about the hacks. We know there are no consequences. But the reality of these investigations, which are only going to pick up steam, constrains putin to only have a win visavis the United States. And that means there wont be a serious reset between these countries. And how did trumps meeting with putin go down in poland . He seemed very liked in poland but did they like the embrace of putin . Well, its very complicated to say what poland thinks of trump, because poland like the United States is very divided. One of the previous speakers alluded to the current government which is liberal or liberalizing, the best way to put it. And actually brought in people to cheer for trump at the speech, to make sure that there was no disharmony. Therefore, people who are pro government are confused by the meeting with putin, people who are antigovernment are pointing fingers and saying, look, we told you so, why are you trusting this man . Thats actually a common sentiment across europe. People notice the gap donald trump uses in written speeches, his talk about the west and so on. And the difference between that and the way he tweets and speaks extemporaneously, when he criticizes, hes criticized the media, which has he did here in poland where the media has been under attack. He has criticized the judicial system, he talks about enemies of the state. This is all totalitarian and differences from the facts. People in europe dont trust him, they dont know what he stands for or when he can be relied upon. We will keep going. When we come back, next on gps as the g20 meeting was ending, frances president emanuel macron said the world has never been so divided. Is he right . I will ask the panel when we come back. 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Elliott abrams, what did you think of the summit . Youve prepared president s for many different kinds of summits, how do you think this one was . The real work is done in the bilateral meetings. There were a lot of good bilaterals. Trump obviously trying to work with xi jinping on north korea. It may work, it may not. Trying to work with putin on syria. And today we get a sericease fi that maybe will save some lives. On other things where you cant work with other people, what does he do after the summit . He immediately sends tillerson to kiev and sends a known envoy. I think this summit is pretty standard except for one thing. Trump has a separate position on Climate Change. And that leads president macron to make what frankly is a silly statement, the world has never been so divided. Yeah, how about the cold war and world war ii and world war i . Lets put things into perspective here, really. Anne applebalm, what do you think about trump and the europeans . Is this much ado about nothing . No. I think the difference between this summit and trumps last meeting to europe, i think this time people are a little bit more prepared for trump. Last time people didnt know what to expect. Everything he did came as a surprise. This time, there was preparation. We knew that the europeans knew that trump wasnt going to go along with the Climate Change agreement. Language was written as a g19 declaration was made. I would disagree with elliott on one slight point. Its not just Climate Change where hes different. Its also trade. And, again, europe dealt with that by announcing a new trade agreement between the European Union and japan. People are determined to go ahead with a trade agenda, a climate agenda, and other issues that the europeans care about. And theyre simply going to go around the american president now. So, i agree, its oversaying it to talk about a divided world. Im sure there will be ways in which everybody is going to Work Together on issues of concern to all of us. But it is also true that europe is now recognized that the u. S. Is different from what it was in the